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The canon explanation should be easy. "Listen, these are the STLs we've got, okay? Back in the loving Golden Age, they had specialized ships for everything. They had loving destroyer-carriers, carrier-destroyers, carrier-destroyer-carriers, you fuckin name it, all right? But their destroyers didn't have fighter bays. They're not in the STL. And if it's not in the STL, Mechanicus won't let us build it. And the last we need is a bunch of loving Mechanicus accusing us of heresy, or worse yet, innovation. So no hangar bays for you. You don't like it, go talk to the loving Tau."
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Madurai posted:I still haven't heard a convincing explanation why the "only" 1km-long destroyers are too small to carry hangars for fighter squadrons. Similarly, see how many weapons this thing has. It's got all kinds of guns and turrets all over the place. But in game terms, what's represented is the primary, most significant armament. 
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How much of the detail on the outside of 40k imperial ships is ornamentation and how much is functional?
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SlothfulCobra posted:I do like the idea of aquatic-based aliens creating their own spaceships full of water instead of air, but I don't think I've actually seen much really done with it. Children Of Ruin has water filled ships crewed by uplifted octopuses, and it spends some time describing how much mass they have compared to a ship with an Earth-standard gaseous atmosphere.
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SlothfulCobra posted:I do like the idea of aquatic-based aliens creating their own spaceships full of water instead of air, but I don't think I've actually seen much really done with it. The Star Trek novel "Probe" by Margaret Wander Bonanno* does a really interesting followup to the whole whale probe thing from Voyage Home. It's one of the novels I actually kept in dead-tree format and reread every so often. * Kinda. She got hosed over by the publisher and the novel was given an uncredited rewrite. She disavows it these days but I still like the final product.
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Liir ships from Sword of the Stars were also quite interesting mechanically, because they were incredibly heavy, but moved by micro-teleportation in combat so all that inertia only counted for some things, but not others. They had a unique combination of being extremely maneuverable, very low acceleration, and didn't get knocked about by kinetic weapons. They were also prone to building cloaked virus bombers and deciding that you shooting Satan McHitler on the opposite side of the galaxy meant you were an irredeemable evil.
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Bug Squash posted:Liir ships from Sword of the Stars were also quite interesting mechanically, because they were incredibly heavy, but moved by micro-teleportation in combat so all that inertia only counted for some things, but not others. They had a unique combination of being extremely maneuverable, very low acceleration, and didn't get knocked about by kinetic weapons. i liked to play as humans and fire enough node missiles at a planet that enough would get through to glass it, regardless of their defences pity they hosed the sequel up so badly 
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Lemniscate Blue posted:The Star Trek novel "Probe" by Margaret Wander Bonanno* does a really interesting followup to the whole whale probe thing from Voyage Home. It's one of the novels I actually kept in dead-tree format and reread every so often. If you didn't know, she uploaded her original manuscript (Music of the Spheres) for people to read. She stopped distributing it publicly after she reconciled with Pocket Books because it would've caused problems but it's still around. There's a copy here if you'd like a gander. I remember she was basically blacklisted from Pocket Books after kicking up a fuss over the Spheres/Probe rewrite in 1991, but then in 2002 or so she was talking about that on TrekBBS and the guy in charge of Pocket Books Trek at the time popped in to say that hey there'd been a complete turnover of people since then and he'd be happy to work with her. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 13:55 on May 13, 2024 |
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MikeJF posted:If you didn't know, she uploaded her original manuscript (Music of the Spheres) for people to read. She stopped distributing it publicly after she reconciled with Pocket Books because it would've caused problems but it's still around. There's a copy here if you'd like a gander. I've read Music of the Spheres. I actually like the published Probe better, which is a shame because I really feel for her. She wasn't the only Trek author at the time that happened to. At the time a series called "The Lost Years" set between the end of TOS and TMP was in the works, and the one book of those I read was "A Flag Full of Stars" which was much more of a disjointed mess as published. When I read about the Pocket rewrites thing that was mentioned and it suddenly made total sense.
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Lemniscate Blue posted:I've read Music of the Spheres. I actually like the published Probe better, which is a shame because I really feel for her. Fair enough, although to be fair to her I believe MotS never had the usual proper back-and-forth between author and editor and regular author-performed partial rewrites that books generally get that by and large smooths them out and ups the quality, so it's gonna be a bit rough.
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