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lmao thank you  I love him so much. I found him outside work with a drooping wing during a brief respite in some week-long bad weather, and took him home so I could give him just a couple days of rest and shelter before letting him go again near where I had found him. This was my true and honest intention. However Pigeon took immediately to being a house pigeon, and I took to having a house pigeon, and well, no regrets, here is where we are, a house pigeon and a house pigeon haver. There's a lot to read in mythology and spirituality about doves and their sudden appearances, but a lot of it is much too grandiose for me and so I think sometimes a pigeon can only be a pigeon. All I know for sure is he is sweet and soft and cuddly and I love him. LITERALLY A BIRD has issued a correction as of 18:41 on Apr 25, 2024 |
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BONGHITZ posted:acts of Gord did we change the spiritual nature of jacks o lantern when we started making them from gourds instead of turnips
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LITERALLY A BIRD posted:lmao thank you  I believe he's also magic though, 100%.BONGHITZ posted:acts of Gord
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Squizzle posted:did we change the spiritual nature of jacks o lantern when we started making them from gourds instead of turnips Almost certainly. Does anyone give a poo poo about turnips anymore? When was the last time anyone ate a turnip?
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Almost certainly. Does anyone give a poo poo about turnips anymore? When was the last time anyone ate a turnip? im eating one right now just pulled it outta the dirt like luigi and chomping down like a apple
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I always played Peach, she was best to play and dressed great, though Luigi and Toad are best for specific stages
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radishes are good but i don't think i've ever had a turnip i'll have to buy some, never have luck with root vegetables growing. i'm trying lots of basils and tiny tomatoes this year they're doing okay. been trying to spend as much time working in gardens as possible before it gets too hot outside but i think i have adapted to move on plant time now my thoughts are moving slower than ever lol. trying to label stuff better cause i always start like ten different varieties of plants and the forget what type they are if/once they start sprouting. i'm using an old vertical blinds to make little tags for seedlings and can fit 5 or so names on a section before cutting it up. so writing the name down 5 times in a row feels like a chant or a spell to summon the plants spirit in addition to helping me remember what they're called later. good handwriting practice too cause you want it to be readable later after it's been exposed to the elements for a while. also noticed when sweeping it sounds nicer to have a little rhythm of like 3 or 4 small sweeps to collect dust into a pile and then a big sweep to brush it away. swept up an area around a fire pit like that and got sort of a witchy vibe. visiting family the other day they were doing a crossword puzzle and the clue was female demon and the answer was lamia? i don't pay attention to greek/roman stuff so hadn't heard of that i guess its some greek thing a half serpent lady that smells bad and eats children? imagine.. the description has some similarities to lilith but also the name sounds like lama/lamassu a bit too. if lamassu are protective gods this sounds like they were trying to scare ppl away from individual god/desses to their comic book rear end buff dude pantheon. The Babylonians: An Introduction - Gwendolyn Leick posted:Of course the prebend system allowed at least some members of the public to participate to a greater or smaller extent in liturgical ceremonies at the temple but ordinary citizens did not need to get involved since their devotions seem to have been primarily addressed to their ‘personal gods’ (ilum but also referred to as lamassu or ˇsedu) in a private setting. In Old Babylonian Ur houses Leonard Woolley discovered niches and similar arrangements which he identified as private altars, as well as figurines which possibly represented deities.39 Literary prayers from this period also stress the attachment to ‘one’s (own) god’ (ilum). The personal god was not one of the great gods of the Babylonian pantheon, not even the god invoked in one’s personal name, but a protective supernatural guiding spirit who like a guardian angel (the customary translation of lamassu) guided his protégé through life, protected him (or her) from harm and interceded for him with the celestial deities. Since one’s ‘own god’ was thought to be intimately associated with the person, any illness or misfortune he experienced as the result of malevolent influences or of ‘sin’ also affected his god.40 In order to re-establish the vitality of both god and human being, a ritual known as ‘Mouth Washing’ could be performed.41 This consisted of two parts: first, the revitalisation of the personal god who was reborn through the symbolic enactment of a birth-process; and thereafter that of the human subject who was placed in a sort of magical cage indicated by lines drawn with flour and washed with various substances. A portable stove was also used into which the officiant threw seven images. Incantations are spoken throughout, and the afflicted had to be ‘judged’ before he was free to leave the cage, cleansed with incense, and waved over with a flaming torch. In this manner the proper relationship between the person and the god was re-established. What is not made explicit in this text, and indeed in many similar ritual instructions, is where this ritual was to take place, whether it had to be performed in a temple or a private house for instance. reenactment of birth processes, or morning routine of putting some items on the stove for breakfast and hopping in the cleanliness cage (shower) to smell nice and dry off before going to work. you be the judge!
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Charlatan Eschaton posted:been trying to spend as much time working in gardens as possible before it gets too hot outside but i think i have adapted to move on plant time now my thoughts are moving slower than ever lol. trying to label stuff better cause i always start like ten different varieties of plants and the forget what type they are if/once they start sprouting. i'm using an old vertical blinds to make little tags for seedlings and can fit 5 or so names on a section before cutting it up. so writing the name down 5 times in a row feels like a chant or a spell to summon the plants spirit in addition to helping me remember what they're called later. good handwriting practice too cause you want it to be readable later after it's been exposed to the elements for a while. also noticed when sweeping it sounds nicer to have a little rhythm of like 3 or 4 small sweeps to collect dust into a pile and then a big sweep to brush it away. swept up an area around a fire pit like that and got sort of a witchy vibe. You are channeling new life!  I would be interested in any other mentions of personal Gods in the book you're reading, if you don't mind sharing them. I do believe in a person having a patron Deity or Deities, but since it's an idea much more relevant in explicitly polytheistic ontology than in philosophy or monotheistic theology it's one of the things I don't always encounter in my reading material. I feel like Tillich gestures quite frequently to the fact there is an ontological concept of a personal God, which is different from the Ultimate God, especially when he starts calling the latter things like "God above the God of theism" in his later work; in Christianity of course the Logos as the Christ taking on the role of every Christian's personal God; but I am not wholly certain this is valid and/or counts
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Dr. Jerrold Coe posted:that's one cool pigeon he thank you   and you too Orbs, for that matter
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Pretty sure most rock doves are descended from feral populations of domestic pigeons, so it shouldn't be surprised so many take to being domesticated so quickly.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Pretty sure most rock doves are descended from feral populations of domestic pigeons, so it shouldn't be surprised so many take to being domesticated so quickly. it's really sad that we abandoned our little buddies as soon as we invented the phone
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJ6rDazfazc e: full song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xf0poQI8wSo LITERALLY A BIRD has issued a correction as of 22:23 on Apr 29, 2024 |
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Pepe Silvia Browne posted:it's really sad that we abandoned our little buddies as soon as we invented the phone i give it up for any animal that thrives off our garbage and environments - rats, pigeons, raccoons, coyotes, etc. pigeons just have a bittersweet story behind it.
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seems apropos for the thread: here's an overview i just published of all 52 chapters of a random brad steiger book on astral projection from 1974: https://paperbackgods.blogspot.com/2024/04/psychic-travel-by-christopher-dane.html if you want to see how the classic paranormal sausage was made, steiger bundles in references from fate magazine, the national enquirer, the journal of the society for psychical research, some sex tabloid, his own imagination, and elsewhere. 20 of 52 chapters are completely unsourced. he doesn't do much in the way of analysis or original research but he does quote himself, brad steiger, while he's writing under his dane pseudonym.   
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Orbs posted:Does anyone else remember the website that had that title? I think it was about some guy's "poo poo that didn't happen" stories from working in a video rental store?
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LITERALLY A BIRD posted:You are channeling new life! i think the personal gods can be messengers between you and the other gods so that seems like a valid reading but idk! here's a link to that full chapter from that babylonians book it's pretty short https://books.google.com/books?id=9BPh8lh1fFEC&lpg=PR4&pg=PA113#v=onepage&q&f=false kramer also mentions the "man and his god"/"i will praise the lord of wisdom" tablets and their similarities to the book of job as examples of personal god stuff in "the sumerians" 1963 https://isac.uchicago.edu/research/publications/misc/sumerians-their-history-culture-and-character and this is a neat reddit post about the akkadian ilū rēši "gods of the head" a pair of personal gods each person has assigned at their birth, and the lamassu protective winged bulls that represent constellations and are placed at the entrances to buildings to protect life within. it's pretty confusing and searching for ilū rēši / ilū rēshi dosen't get many results so i'm not sure how to find out more about this but seems like some early astrology ideas. https://www.reddit.com/r/Sumer/comments/e8zcnk/shedu_lamassu/ posted:As guardians, the bull-colossi and lion-sphinxes are subservient to the Anunnakkū and Igigū—Mesopotamia’s premier deities—and surviving textual references from the Ur-III period indicate that the goddess Inana possessed a special 𒈨 [ME = me: cosmic ordinance] for assigning them.
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Heh, gotta admit that first made me thought of the 'guardian angel' mythology and even the shoulder angel/devil things. A lot of those ideas seem to be pretty universal, or at least don't die easily, as they make good symbology. Humans are quite the hoarders for interesting ideas.
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Thanks so much Charlatan! I poked that reddit link to start with and then really enjoyed some of the "related topics" it served up heart warming I want to strengthen my relationship with Inanna posted:Ever since she claimed me, my life has improved significantly. She's cured my social anxiety and people have been treating me better. Also blessed me with beauty. Usually I invoke her by chanting the "Exaltation of Inanna" poem and offering her medjool dates, libation, and incense. I've bought books about her to educate myself. I wear her Venus symbol and a lapis lazuli ring. I want to do more for this lovely Goddess, whom I consider my patron. I promised myself that once I move out (unsupportive home), I will dedicate a beautiful altar to her. less heart warming Odd dream (with Ishtar?) posted:Hi there! heart neutral Inanna posted:Does anyone work with this goddess directly? She came to me in a dream as a name (Astarte) that I wrote down on a a piece of paper and I never heard of the name prior to that night. I am originally into kemeticism but I see a lot of overlap between this particular goddess and hathor,isis, aphrodite, etc. Ghost Leviathan posted:Heh, gotta admit that first made me thought of the 'guardian angel' mythology and even the shoulder angel/devil things. A lot of those ideas seem to be pretty universal, or at least don't die easily, as they make good symbology. Humans are quite the hoarders for interesting ideas. What if we keep coming back to the idea because it's true? 
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LITERALLY A BIRD posted:Thanks so much Charlatan! I poked that reddit link to start with and then really enjoyed some of the "related topics" it served up I've tried working with Inanna before, and this would probably make that go even better. quote:What if we keep coming back to the idea because it's true? strange feelings re Daisy posted:https://forums.somethingawful.com/dictionary.php?act=3&topicid=235
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lol those are good, nice to see some positive vibes from reddit i wonder if the part of your brain that lets you have imaginary friends as a kid is the same part where your religious stuff goes and as you get older it just gets diverted to like remembering people you watched on survivor on tv or how to do your taxes instead of cool nature spirit guardians.
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Charlatan Eschaton posted:kramer also mentions the "man and his god"/"i will praise the lord of wisdom" tablets and their similarities to the book of job as examples of personal god stuff in "the sumerians" 1963 thank you again for this one The Sumerians, p115 posted:As for the technique of creation attributed to these deities, our Sumerian philosophers developed a doctrine which became dogma throughout the Near East, the doctrine of the creative power of the divine word. hell yeah here it goes
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I wonder how many religions have the creative word in common and I also wonderLITERALLY A BIRD posted:What if we keep coming back to the idea because it's true? not simply in the mundane sense of "words have power" being true, but that there is a reified Word, a Deified Word, and belief in words as sacred and Divine is the universalist thread of truth that runs through every structured religion that has enough true elements to be considered meaningfully, substantially True. Christianity still gets to be special because "the Word was made flesh" or whatever Ultimate Concern: Tillich in Dialogue posted:STUDENT: Well, considering the symbol of Christ, does not Christianity state that the Christ existed in the world before the person of Jesus, as in the Gospel according to St. John, where it is said that he was before the world? In terms of salvation, would it not be possible to say that the symbol of Christ, or his essence, was in the Jewish nation before his actual coming, and that salvation therefore does not necessarily begin with the advent of Christ on earth but existed before his incarnation in Jesus?
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LITERALLY A BIRD posted:Christianity still gets to be special because "the Word was made flesh" or whatever one of the big differences that brings is who has access to it. The contrasting example is the Stoic Logos which is pessimistic about who can follow the word. They even have a theosis like condition, the logikos. instead of the anybody can be a little christ because of the humanity of the Word, they have that only a few very very few can be the logikos the “determined by the word” or the “determined by reason “. the humanity of the deified Word changes its accessibility. It’s family. Not metaphorically, but literally. To me if one is taking Christianity seriously, there are three statements that I think are often metaphorically interpreted that are actually literal. We are all children of the Father. We are all the brothers and sisters of Jesus. We are all mother’s children. that’s the fundamental difference in the relationship with the Word to most of the other places one sees the Logos. It was spoken as a person and in Christianity it is related to as a person. One can go out and meet a person and encounter the Logos in them. there’s another metaphor I don’t remember where he uses it, but Tillich compares religion a treasure chest hidden inside of a mausoleum.
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Bar Ran Dun posted:there’s another metaphor I don’t remember where he uses it, but Tillich compares religion a treasure chest hidden inside of a mausoleum. So we're just awaiting our next prophet, Indiana Jones.
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"you gotta try one of these chicken mcmuffins, little too much mayo but its got a bit of kick" i say as i place the sandwich on Ishtar's altar, the elder deity torn between appreciation for the offering and wondering how this man has managed to survive this long
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Bar Ran Dun posted:one of the big differences that brings is who has access to it. The contrasting example is the Stoic Logos which is pessimistic about who can follow the word. They even have a theosis like condition, the logikos. instead of the anybody can be a little christ because of the humanity of the Word, they have that only a few very very few can be the logikos the “determined by the word” or the “determined by reason “. go away boat fucker
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BRD, like Paul, is here as a friend and guest He helps to answer important theological questions for me Such as, might the Logos also enjoy a chicken sandwich?
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tristeham posted:go away boat fucker the only thing he loves to sex more than boats, is tillich
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https://twitter.com/sheis___mywife/status/1786316013208064041 prayer and sacrifice works
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tristeham doesn’t like that I think support of Donald Trump is support of fascism and then thinks that’s an appropriate to do about it. to be fair it is a conclusion about Trump that is directly resulting from my love of Tillich.
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ex post facho posted:https://twitter.com/sheis___mywife/status/1786316013208064041 💗
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