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Asuron posted:That's how I'm reading it as well , that finally settles the complaint about why Gojo didn't read it and why he didn't have to chant for that one specific instance i honestly think it's very funny to clarify this after months of sukuna just doing ridiculous stuff rather than at the time extremely jojo chapter
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cgfreak posted:Is he... breakdancing through Sukuna's CT? This is peak lmao Ok but what about the one he sent at Yuta with all 4 hands occupied and his tongue cut out?
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The Binding Vow explanation helps a lot with the ending of the Gojo fight, even though I still dislike the World-cutting Dismantle as a concept given it's, well, boring. This was a pretty decent chapter, I'm fully expecting Sukuna to regain the use of his domain and barrier techniques next chapter given how much talk there was about his lack of domain expansion abilities here.RatHat posted:Ok but what about the one he sent at Yuta with all 4 hands occupied and his tongue cut out? I don't think he had all his hands occupied and regenerated his tongue. Admittedly, it's hard to parse if that was even supposed to be a world-rending dismantle or whatever the gently caress we're supposed to call it, or just a chant-empowered Dismantle that could cut Yuta because of how close he'd gotten. Now, maybe in 20 chapters we'll get a development that will make the sequestered Kamutoke and Higuruma's sword just fizzling out feel better lol.
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Fair Bear Maiden posted:Now, maybe in 20 chapters we'll get a development that will make the sequestered Kamutoke and Higuruma's sword just fizzling out feel better lol. As further evidenced by this chapter the explanation for Higuruma's sword is simply that Gege wants Yuji to suffer.
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lmao glad to see that "he just stood there and watched it happen and if you could READ you would KNOW THAT" got thoroughly sunk e: and as one could have guessed it relied on the calvinball part of the fiction, and off-screening Gojo just made it pointlessly confusing for the rug pull e: e: this does, to me, further raise the question of why someone on the protagonist side isn't trying to do a Gon, other than HxH already did it. Valentin fucked around with this message at 14:03 on Mar 28, 2024 |
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I used to love JJK, still do even though its bad now, but I have never once been as stunned as I was this chapter idk what Gege is cookin but I can smell it waftin' from over here Gojo canonically racist was not on my bingo card. And Miguel's CT appears to be... rhythm...? Will need to wait for finals but that appears to be the case. Luckily we appear to be progressing to Yuji's fight finally. Valentin posted:e: e: this does, to me, further raise the question of why someone on the protagonist side isn't trying to do a Gon, other than HxH already did it. Honestly the binding vow stuff has been handled intensely poorly. It was bad enough in HxH (even if it did produce the pretty goated Gon stuff) but the basic idea of a binding vow is just ludicrous and requires that you completely suspend all disbelief, even by shonen standards. Like, where are the binding vows whenever someone is fighting someone and losing? Who wouldn't do a binding vow if the alternative is dying? It's not compelling cgfreak posted:Is he... breakdancing through Sukuna's CT? This is peak lmao is it tho Shinjobi posted:Gojo and Usopp, weird about black people 4 life seriously. Taima fucked around with this message at 15:03 on Mar 28, 2024 |
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Mar 28, 2024 14:24
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Gojo and Usopp, weird about black people 4 life
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What did Usopp do?
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RatHat posted:What did Usopp do? Terrible old fan translation of the Davy Back Fight
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Afros being used by successful boxers got twisted into something really weird by bad translations.
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Shinjobi posted:Gojo and Usopp, weird about black people 4 life EDIT: my bad his name was Panther... ofc.
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Gonna wait till I see a better translation to pass judgment on that, I think my experience from reading manga leads me to believe Japan is pretty tone deaf about those kinds of things for a modern western audience, but if it's just Gojo being like "Miguel is also way more jacked than any Japanese sorcerer" and Miguel being like "don't be racist bro" as a joke then whatever feeling justified for speculating about how Gojo got caught out by the world slash when even Kusakabe predicted and dodged it, it is pretty calvinball-ish to retroactively clarify months afterwards, but the logic fits for JJK and it is a pretty clever application of a minor binding vow to cast a spell with no wind-up once at the cost of telegraphing it forevermore after that
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Gojo the racist twink is a very funny bit.
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It absolutely reads like Gege has been sweating and furiously thinking about how to explain the end of the Gojo fight and finally landed on something plausible lmao
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Tonfa posted:It absolutely reads like Gege has been sweating and furiously thinking about how to explain the end of the Gojo fight and finally landed on something plausible lmao This thread is still so funny
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He should contract Yusuke Murata to redraw the sequence after he breaks down and retcons it.
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seems like Calvinball because it’s still not explained who or what people make binding vows with, and what determines the terms. It’s obviously something tied to cursed energy since that’s also tied to fate or something. And Sukuna being an expert at making these vows is likely connected to him experiencing death and coming back, thereby gaining some esoteric knowledge about how everything works. This lets him game the system, or at least cut deals that appear to work in his favor. Like, asking God if I can use my super special op technique without any restrictions just-this-once so I can land a sneak attack on possibly the greatest sorcerer that will ever come close to rivaling me in exchange for adding all these additional steps everytime I want to use this attack in the future forever, sounds like a fair deal? Except I can get around all the dumb restrictions by being able to regenerate + having 4 arms and 2 mouths + no one will ever come close to threatening me after this one guy is dead so these restrictions don’t really matter. art of the deal
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yum posted:seems like Calvinball because it’s still not explained who or what people make binding vows with, and what determines the terms. It’s obviously something tied to cursed energy since that’s also tied to fate or something. And Sukuna being an expert at making these vows is likely connected to him experiencing death and coming back, thereby gaining some esoteric knowledge about how everything works. This lets him game the system, or at least cut deals that appear to work in his favor. Binding Vows are made with cursed energy itself. The terms are what someone believes is an acceptable price to pay for what they want and they have to genuinely believe that price is worthwhile because they can't lie to themselves. You might be thinking of Heavenly Restrictions which people are born with.
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Isn't the premise of binding vows that if you break them you die? Due to curse stuff?
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Jerkface posted:Isn't the premise of binding vows that if you break them you die? Due to curse stuff? The penalty is "the loss of whatever was gained from the contract." What this means is a bit up to debate but as presented it's not just "you lose the ability to do it" but some kind of genuine and serious backlash.
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All this tells me is that Gojo was better
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But Heavenly Restrictions are also binding vows and those aren’t made with conscious consent. Who is making the vow? I hope Hakari does some cool vow stuff, he’s the only person on team good that’s used them effectively (sorry Miwa)
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Jerkface posted:Isn't the premise of binding vows that if you break them you die? Due to curse stuff? IIRC the rule is, if it's a binding vow you just make to the nebulous force behind CE then you just lose whatever benefit you gained from the binding vow. If you make a binding vow with someone else and you break it, the penalty is completely unpredictable so people take those extremely seriously.
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yum posted:But Heavenly Restrictions are also binding vows and those aren’t made with conscious consent. Who is making the vow? Heavenly Restrictions are something you're born with, like a cursed jutsu birth defect. It's just something that happens to you. They're a cursed restriction but not a vow. The nature of Cursed Energy though is that any restrictions placed upon it also inherently comes with benefits tied to it. Like it's worth noting that Maki was born with a Heavenly Restriction but it kind of sucked since she neither had access to Cursed Energy in any meaningful way nor had the invincible body that came with having been cut off from using CE entirely. (Because she was tied to her sister.) It's not always a great super awesome thing, you can just end up like Maki and kind of suck. It wasn't until Mai died and took all of Maki's cursed energy with her that the Heavenly Restriction was truly complete. ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 22:58 on Mar 28, 2024 |
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Thanks for the clear definitions, very helpful.
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Aw gently caress he found my receipt for a daikon stuffed with knife from Aldi's, my b Megumi This culling game arc has very fun abilities Goddamn, Megumi is gonna get his second ever win here MorningMoon fucked around with this message at 23:57 on Mar 28, 2024 |
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Reggie Star was such good character
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ImpAtom posted:Binding Vows are made with cursed energy itself. The terms are what someone believes is an acceptable price to pay for what they want and they have to genuinely believe that price is worthwhile because they can't lie to themselves. I guess ignorance really is bliss then. CharlestonJew posted:IIRC the rule is, if it's a binding vow you just make to the nebulous force behind CE then you just lose whatever benefit you gained from the binding vow. If you make a binding vow with someone else and you break it, the penalty is completely unpredictable so people take those extremely seriously. So Sukuna can just break his Binding Vow since it was a one-time benefit to begin with? If he can break it to begin with, which makes it sound more like a restriction than a vow. I think generally the issue with binding vows is you start wondering why character x didn't use a binding vow to get out of situation y.
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Seems like a pretty big cursed energy loophole that you can make incredibly powerful binding vows with yourself then immediately break them after the damage is done. 🤔 I went back and checked and sure enough Chapter 79, Kenjaku says the only penalty for a self imposed binding vow is losing what was gained. Why doesn't Miwa just swing her drat sword again, GEGE? What will she lose? The temporary powerup that Kenjaku no sold anyways?!  Lord forgive me but im making another binding vow
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Miwa doesnt have that dog in her to break it
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MorningMoon posted:Aw gently caress he found my receipt for a daikon stuffed with knife from Aldi's, my b Megumi Reggie Star is probably the most underrated fight in the series and the second best fight in the Culling Game.
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Wait is that why Hakari got his arm back? Cuz hes a bad enough dude to sac it with a binding vow then just break the binding vow later?!
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JahRoo posted:anyone got a working link? the one above is broken https://rentry.co/Jjk255
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Jerkface posted:Wait is that why Hakari got his arm back? Cuz hes a bad enough dude to sac it with a binding vow then just break the binding vow later?! Hakari’s vow was increasingly the CE protection on the rest of his body in exchange for leaving his arm with no protection. I think a vow that imposes a penalty like Miwa’s never use a sword again just can’t be broken. A vow like Nanami’s overtime is one that could, as he would just lose the benefit of the vow.
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lol sukuna constructing a vow around malicious compliance owns
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Electric Phantasm posted:Reggie Star was such good character
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