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Julias posted:No. No really you’re a poo poo mod how many pages did you defend or claim to be missing all that creepy poo poo? But you’re on the ball if anyone “trolls” someone who is unironically trying to argue that actually she’s a 1000 year old wizard in a 13 year body.
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GorfZaplen posted:Hey all. I'm your new ADTRW co-moderator. I know we're all still in need of some healing and rest in this chaotic time, so I'll be laying low for awhile, but rest assured: I have some great ideas for this subforum that I think everyone will enjoy. Happy watching everyone
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Aug 24, 2021 05:36
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is it okay to post about vtubers in other threads or am I gonna get probed if I post a video of an anime girl saying “big chungus” in the chat thread
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Aug 24, 2021 16:37
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DoubleDonut posted:is it okay to post about vtubers in other threads or am I gonna get probed if I post a video of an anime girl saying “big chungus” in the chat thread
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Aug 24, 2021 16:53
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Heya just popping by to say that deleting the entire VTuber thread because Julias can’t tell the difference between characters and actors is a pretty poo poo decision! It’s probably for the best for me that that thread got deleted as it was soaking up way too much of my free time, but lol at the reasons.
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Aug 24, 2021 17:44
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Endorph posted:no, there is no rule against posting about vtubers. why not e: this is actually a genuine question, because it's clear that there is no good solution to have vtubers discussed at all without something going haywire, so it might be for the best to actively discourage bringing them up in any capacity if it can be helped. Takoluka fucked around with this message at 17:50 on Aug 24, 2021 |
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Aug 24, 2021 17:46
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Talorat posted:Heya just popping by to say that deleting the entire VTuber thread because Julias can’t tell the difference between characters and actors is a pretty poo poo decision! It’s probably for the best for me that that thread got deleted as it was soaking up way too much of my free time, but lol at the reasons. One of the streamers said they wanted to marry another one, which is about as degenerate as it gets. Maybe it's because I have never felt attracted to any anime or vtuber but I really don't get why that was the last straw, it was a very tame jokey tweet as far as I can tell. I'm just mad because I would like somewhere to talk about funny vtuber antics and good vtuber music that isn't full of drama though, and SA seems to not be that place.
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Aug 24, 2021 17:54
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Talorat posted:Heya just popping by to say that deleting the entire VTuber thread because Julias can’t tell the difference between characters and actors is a pretty poo poo decision! It’s probably for the best for me that that thread got deleted as it was soaking up way too much of my free time, but lol at the reasons. I briefly glanced at the last page of that thread and this seems to be about 2 vtubers flirting with each other when one of them has a child for an avatar? I'll be honest while closing the whole thread seems harsh "an adult puts on the persona of a child and then as a child flirts with another adult who is not pretending to be a child" is exactly the kind of weird situation that makes drawing clear lines difficult and given the recent blowup I don't really blame julius for that decision, especially with wark suddenly out of the picture and unable to help. I don't care for vtubers at all so it's mostly no skin off my bones but after seeing the stuff that started the recent vtuber blow up I'm glad they're taking a harder stance on this kind of stuff. While I think closing the thread over just that is a bit harsh detailing a situation concerning people identified by their childlike personas and constructed appearances flirting with each other does make me fairly uncomfortable to share a forum with that subject matter.
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Aug 24, 2021 17:55
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Takoluka posted:why not Because people might be less likely to horn if there's not an enclave where they're less likely to be noticed
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il_cornuto posted:One of the streamers said they wanted to marry another one, which is about as degenerate as it gets. Honestly a mod just got banned for pedo poo poo so I'm not gonna get mad at Julias for acting pretty definitively, whether or not it's the right call here
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Aug 24, 2021 17:56
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TheKingofSprings posted:Honestly a mod just got banned for pedo poo poo so I'm not gonna get mad at Julias for acting pretty definitively, whether or not it's the right call here Yeah that's fair.
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Aug 24, 2021 17:57
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Takoluka posted:why not
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Endorph posted:theyre just streamers with anime avatars. This is the point of contention. You might think that, but a lot more people think they're creepy moving child pictures designed by and for sex perverts. It might be extreme, but going full nuclear on it for a while is probably a good idea. Not forever, but the dust needs to settle.
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Aug 24, 2021 18:02
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Talorat posted:Heya just popping by to say that deleting the entire VTuber thread because Julias can’t tell the difference between characters and actors is a pretty poo poo decision! Interesting, please elaborate specifically on the differences between characters and actors?? The minor differences, if you will.
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Aug 24, 2021 18:03
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Takoluka posted:This is the point of contention. You might think that, but a lot more people think they're creepy moving child pictures designed by and for sex perverts. It might be extreme, but going full nuclear on it for a while is probably a good idea. Not forever, but the dust needs to settle.
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Aug 24, 2021 18:04
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Takoluka posted:This is the point of contention. You might think that, but a lot more people think they're creepy moving child pictures designed by and for sex perverts. It might be extreme, but going full nuclear on it for a while is probably a good idea. Not forever, but the dust needs to settle. also 'a lot more' feels like an exaggeration. Endorph fucked around with this message at 18:06 on Aug 24, 2021 |
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Aug 24, 2021 18:04
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10 QCS posters vs Gura's 2 million + subs
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Aug 24, 2021 18:08
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I really think it's just as simple as just don't post about it here. Vtubers can do whatever they like on their social media or streams, just don't post about it here when they're hornyposting somewhere else. Talk about literally anything else about them. But people keep doing it, so hey.
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Aug 24, 2021 18:09
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Also it's really lovely to call vtubers "girls" when they're are plenty of men or NB and that's even before getting into the infantilization of calling women girls. Someone called this character 'underage when her design is a tall rear end woman and her voice is pretty far away from a cutesy child one that I'm just baffled at the comparison.
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Aug 24, 2021 18:20
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It sucks because apart from the creeps it really was a good place to catch up on Hololive in general, but I don't blame anyone because it was getting extremely hard to pragmatically mod (because of the few creeps and trying to find a non-existent consensus). I think letting the dust settle and see where we are is, if not a "good" idea, the best idea at present. Until then I'm just going to continue listening to the music, which rocks.
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Aug 24, 2021 18:22
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Very cool how a bunch of goon vtubers got their livelihoods materially hosed with because of qcs weirdos getting mad about anime
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Aug 24, 2021 18:30
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Honestly I don’t remember any creeps apart from the folks coming in to attempt to poo poo stir from QCS and FYAD, but I could definitely have missed those posts. In any case, I agree, fine to let the dust settle for awhile.
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Aug 24, 2021 18:31
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Yeah, there's no point relitigating it, it's over, I'm just saying there's no need to say you can't post about them anywhere on the forums or anything, just don't let it wander off into any weird tangents.
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Aug 24, 2021 18:33
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ninjewtsu posted:I briefly glanced at the last page of that thread and this seems to be about 2 vtubers flirting with each other when one of them has a child for an avatar? they both do lol shark girl likes witch girl  
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Aug 24, 2021 18:34
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Potsticker posted:Also it's really lovely to call vtubers "girls" when they're are plenty of men or NB and that's even before getting into the infantilization of calling women girls. Someone called this character Did you not hear? She's a 3 year old toddler according to someone who wasn't possibly being disingenuous
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Aug 24, 2021 18:36
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:Very cool how a bunch of goon vtubers got their livelihoods materially hosed with because of qcs weirdos getting mad about anime I’d personally blame the people who kept posting loli porn in the thread and the community members who keep defending them and imagining a conspiracy of evil pink forum trolls but that’s just me! Potsticker posted:Also it's really lovely to call vtubers "girls" when they're are plenty of men or NB and that's even before getting into the infantilization of calling women girls. Someone called this character No one of you guys already did the “being uncomfortable with loli is racist” bit please try harder
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Aug 24, 2021 18:40
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you morons should just shut up before you manage to implicate yourself into getting banned
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Aug 24, 2021 18:41
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seriously why is it so hard to just let it go. im not saying you have to agree with everything that was said, i absolutely dont, but the conversation's kind of over at this juncture. arguing about it is not going to solve anything and only makes you look worse.
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Aug 24, 2021 18:42
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i don't know why it seems hard to understand that you shouldn't post about sexualized underage fictive characters regardless of whether their voice actor is reading from a tv anime script or are just improvising within a loose "lore" live on twitch.tv
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Aug 24, 2021 18:48
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Endorph posted:I'm just saying there's no need to say you can't post about them anywhere on the forums or anything Since you've made this post, it has been made clear that there is absolutely a need to say that. It needs to be done for like a week minimum, and it needs to be enforced. It is fresh in the forum's minds, and regardless of what side you're on, nothing's going to improve unless we go scorched earth on it.
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Aug 24, 2021 18:52
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Stink Billyums posted:they both do lol I don't know if 2 adults pretending to be 2 children flirting with each other is better or worse and this is exactly the kind of philosophic quandary that makes me lean towards siding with julius on this one I get that it's meant in good fun and isn't intended to sexualize children but there's enough layers of gray area here that I definitely would not want to be the one making the call on how to handle people discussing this, especially following no longer having a second moderator around and especially considering why there's no longer a second moderator around. If the straw that broke the camel's back was "we don't want a thread revolving around discussing adults pretending to be children pretending to flirt with each other" then I'm a little surprised this wasn't looked into with some closer scrutiny much sooner ninjewtsu fucked around with this message at 18:56 on Aug 24, 2021 |
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Aug 24, 2021 18:53
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I don't care. Literally none of this matters. The simple fact is that Something Awful is not the right environment for a Vtuber discussion thread, for a wide wealth of reasons. There's so many people you can point fingers at for what went wrong that as far as I'm concerned you all suck. I suck for loving writing this post. Neither the thread posters, nor the thread shitters, nor the forum moderators, nor the forum administrators can handle the topic. If that's the case, it shouldn't be here at all. Ban Vtuber discussion on the forum, and if you want to discuss Vtubers, do it elsewhere. There's no reason you have to be on Something Awful, and gently caress, now is a great time to go literally anywhere else, this forum is just a bunch of sad 40 year olds living in their mothers' basements. You can leave. Live a little. Grow up!
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Aug 24, 2021 18:53
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Davincie posted:you morons should just shut up before you manage to implicate yourself into getting banned
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Aug 24, 2021 18:54
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Takoluka posted:Since you've made this post, it has been made clear that there is absolutely a need to say that. Like this doesn't have to be a debate in the columns. Post a couple funny clips in the chat thread if you want every now and then and for the love of all that is holy stop arguing with random guys about the details of Gawr Gura's vtuber wiki page. It'll be fine if we can all just do that. As a community. As a people. I promise.
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Aug 24, 2021 18:54
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Aug 24, 2021 18:55
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Endorph posted:No, not really. For starters, how would this help? You're inherently accepting the premise that vtuber stuff is so hosed up and twisted that it can't be discussed... for a week? what would happen in that week to make it okay. either its okay to discuss and the vtuber thread got like that because it was insular and active, or its for twisted psychopaths and should be verboten. im not seeing the middle ground where we need to go 'scorched earth' on it for a limited time only. Then make it permanent. I don't see the problem, honestly.
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Aug 24, 2021 18:56
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Davincie posted:you morons should just shut up before you manage to implicate yourself into getting banned Its this. I doubt a dedicated adtrw thread is a thing that can be negotiated for, if thats your red line just post a banme
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Aug 24, 2021 18:56
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Takoluka posted:Then make it permanent. I don't see the problem, honestly. If something's been allowed to happen without any drama whatsoever, and none of what's going on now has anything to do with said thing, then why should it suddenly be banned? I'm not saying turn the chat thread into vtuber central just there's no need to completely forbid any and all mention. Endorph fucked around with this message at 19:00 on Aug 24, 2021 |
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Vtubing is the new Bronies.
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