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Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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Feeple posted:

If I were a fool, and got the SCE half of each edition's starter, and then picked up the SCE box, could I make a decent army out of that?

I’m also curious about this as I have the SCE half of three different starters waiting for me in my garage.

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Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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Covermeinsunshine posted:

Frankly Soul Wars and Dominion are bad starter sets. SW gives you weird number of minis in each unit while Dominion gives you 4 heroes one of with is special character. There is no reason to double down on it. On the positive side warcry box (one with vindictors and annihilators did help me to build up units I was interested in (its probably hard to get it now tho)

Maybe I should sell it off or give it to a friend who I know is interested, then, and not feel like I ought to do SCE just because I have some kicking around. Plus Cities of Sigmar seems cool and I like the fact that one army will nevertheless have a variety of styles to keep the painting interesting.

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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Covermeinsunshine posted:

I mean Soul Wars is how I started and I remember it fondly but you might try and trade it in. On the other hand in dominion 4 out of 7 units are very much usable - the problem with it they are usable in two completly different lists so unless you are into sce might be a problem.

I honestly am tempted to get back into CoS myself for the modeling oportunity but frankly I hate horde armies. But if that is not an issue for you then possibilities are endless - but this is also a trap as currently you can on the core of cos build 5 other armies

Do I recall correctly that some SCE figure into a number of CoS armies? If so, maybe it's better to just keep the SCE I have and use them in a CoS army.

Mors Rattus posted:

The main thing with Cities is we’re likely to see a massive line revamp next year.

I'm not in a rush! It's probably good to know that it's worth waiting for me, actually. I have enough other projects at the moment.

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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Covermeinsunshine posted:

1 in 4 units in CoS armies can be SCE - they gain the city keyword but they do not count as battline or can't be generals any more. Same is true for Kharadron in Tempest Eye and Sylvaneth in Living city. In those cases you can have 2 CoS units, KO unit and SCE unit and its all dandy

Thanks! Would the SCE units from Dominion and Soul Wars be good candidates for that use case?

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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Grizzled Patriarch posted:

On the other hand Dominion + the Kruleboyz battleforce is actually a very solid starter army for them, everything except the foot Killaboss and the Murknob has seen competitive play recently and you're like 1 unit of Boltboyz away from a meta list.

All right, I guess I'm sold. I'll give my SCE stuff to my friend, start on my Kruleboyz stuff from Dominion and think about Cities of Sigmar when their new stuff hits next year.

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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Al-Saqr posted:

I’m confused what’s underworld? Is it different from Warcry?

Let’s say someone wants to experience AoS but through a smaller package and entry cost like Kill Team, is underworld or warcry a good direction?

Underworlds is probably my favorite game right now. And it's definitely different from Warcry. It's a mix of board game and deck building. You have a war band of 3-7 models, the rosters of which are fixed (no customization of equipment or models included in your team). What you can customize are your cards -- you have a deck of objectives you try to achieve to score points, and a deck of upgrades and power cards to play. Plays in three rounds, in each round you activate a model four times. Plays fast, very strategic. It's not AoS but smaller, Warcry is more like that. There are AoS and Warcry rules for the Underworlds war bands if you want to use the models there, but that's it.

https://warhammerunderworlds.com/

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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Al-Saqr posted:

drat apparently the cattle elves for AoS underworlds is completely out of stock that’s a shame, that ogre pirate and the vampires looks cool though.

Do you have any local game shops? Underworlds doesn't exactly fly off the shelves so a lot of stores do have old stock kicking around, they just don't have webstores most of the time.

Actually, Myari's Purifiers were one of the warbands in the Direchasm season box, if you can find that box you'd get them and the Dread Pageant (Slaaneshi warband).

Edit: there's also some Underworlds chat in the Games Workshop Specialist Games thread.

Muir fucked around with this message at 17:58 on Nov 11, 2022

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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Vulpes Vulpes posted:

I hadn't any idea there was a new Gitz warband on the way, is there any info what would make it different from Zarbag's Gitz/Mollog's Mob? I love Zarbag's Gitz to an unreasonable degree. Having a horrible little goblin glare at a Chaos Sorcerer so hard they died remains an Underworlds highlight for me.

I don’t have any info, but they have been thematically revisiting older warbands to do a fresh and meta-current take on them (like Hrothgorn vs Blackpowder, Exiled Dead vs Sepulchral Guard, new and old Skaven, etc.). So I would guess it’ll be something like that.

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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Vulpes Vulpes posted:

Ah, that's a good point, I hadn't thought of that. Hopefully we get another Chaos Warrior warband, I could do with another crew of murderjocks.

We did just get Gorechosen of Dromm, but despite being three beefy Khorne warriors, their playstyle isn't just smash face.

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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Vulpes Vulpes posted:

Nothing really, but I already have them.

Don't miss their errata that makes them more playable. They moved from inspiring on 3 desecrations to just 2.

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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Talas posted:

Could someone buy one (or a couple) of these boxes in the UK and ship them to the US? Asking for a friend, he already knows people in the UK.

If your friend already knows people in the UK, then I'm not sure what you're asking. Like, is it physically and legally possible? Yes.

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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tangy yet delightful posted:

Can y'all tell me what's the deal with Age of Sigmar Dominion boxed set? Seeing the LGS has it for $60 for black Friday and wondering if that's a deal worth getting. I mean I have a pile of gray in 40K and kill teams and no AOS but???

It's a great deal. GW just made way more copies of the box than anyone wanted. These days they tend to go for $100-$110 online, so $60 is a good discount even from that which is already a good deal.

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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I'm a long-time 40k player who's admired Age of Sigmar for a while now, and I actually spend most of my tabletop time playing Warhammer Underworlds, with an eye toward Warcry. I want to work on a full AoS army, but am having a really hard time deciding which one to go with. I'm hoping for some guidance. I've read all the Goonhammer articles and other sites with the faction overviews.

I get a lot of enjoyment out of the model building and painting side of the hobby, and while I don't want to have a faction that is fighting with an arm tied behind its back, I don't care too much about being the most competitive either. I want to work toward a balanced general army list, rather than chasing meta builds. I'd prefer an army that's fairly straightforward to collect rather than having a dizzying array of options and different load-outs for units.

I do already have the Dominion box, plus some more Stormcast halves of starter boxes and some of the limited characters. But I've realized I'm not that excited about Stormcast or Kruleboyz, and I'd be OK to sell on what I've got instead. I also have every Warhammer Underworlds warband if anything there helps fill out an army. And I have an unbuilt set of the old Island of Blood starter from the end of Warhammer Fantasy that has Skaven and High Elves.

The four factions that grab me the most from a lore and aesthetic standpoint are Skaven, Soulblight Gravelords, Cities of Sigmar, and Seraphon. In 40k, I play Space Wolves, Leagues of Votann, and Genestealer Cults, if that helps somehow.

Thanks!

Muir fucked around with this message at 07:34 on Nov 30, 2022

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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Covermeinsunshine posted:

Skaven recently got new book with is average and no new models.

Seraphon are strong faction but again very few new minis so you will be playing with ancient stuff from days of yore

Cities of Sigmar are very likely to get revamp next year so I would hold of with them

Soulblight got massive range update at the end of second edition and their book is still solid. You do get a lot of freedom when building an army and just changing dynasty changes compsition and the way it plays

This is very helpful, thanks! I'm a bit tempted on the Skaven side given what I already have from Island of Blood and how good a deal the new Battleforce seems to be. But I do appreciate how nice all the new models are, and Soulblight's new models look great. I guess if I'm going to paint a horde it would be more fun to paint a horde of new sculpts. Given the amount of time that goes into assembling and painting, it's probably a false savings to pick an army based on models I have around instead of what I'm absolutely most excited about. And I think the feel and flavor of Soulblight is really cool and would be fun to paint, and different from other stuff I've done. Maybe I'll see if any local stores have last year's battleforce still around.

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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Well, I found a store online that had two copies left of the 2021 Soulblight Gravelords Battleforce at retail, and ordered one! Now to list all my other stuff on eBay. Thanks again for the advice and inspiration!

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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It’s been on the roadmap for December since they teased it in October: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/10/21/warhammer-underworlds-roadmap-carve-through-the-gnarlwood-with-the-return-of-organised-play/

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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Bitz sellers on eBay or other sites is pretty much your only option, yeah. Unless it's a basic unit that you can get one or a few of in a learn to paint set or the starter magazine.

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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GreenBuckanneer posted:

edit: of course the two designs I love the most are the absolute bottom of the tier list

At the moment, but they're about to get a new book and it's expected to be decent.

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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Cooked Auto posted:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/12/11/sunday-preview-cursed-city-expansions-rise-again/

So next weeks pre-orders are light, for obvious reasons of course. But apparently the Cursed City expansions sold out faster than GW had anticipated so now they're back for a made to order batch.

I just bought Cursed City since I’m starting a Soulblight Gravelords army and it seemed a good value for all the characters and some alternate sculpts for the troops, but now I’m wondering if I should snag these expansions in case I like the board game itself.

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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Thanks again to everyone who helped me pick a faction. I successfully sold off all my Stormcast and Kruleboyz stuff, and found someone on Facebook selling last year’s battle force for Soulblight Gravelords and Cursed City and was able to get both for $300 shipped. I also have Anasta Malkorion, Cado Ezechiar, and all the Underworlds warbands which I can either run as is or proxy for other characters (Crimson Court people as Vampire Lord, Exiled Dead leader as Necromancer, King Velmorn as a Wight King). I’m just starting to assemble the battleforce now and I love the updated sculpts on everything. I’m not really one to play “evil” factions but I’m looking forward to my undead horde. I guess the lore says there are a couple of benevolent vampire lords…

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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GW has an official base size PDF for Age of Sigmar (but not one for 40K for some reason): https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/ba618db2.pdf

You can also look in the detailed description for the various squads on the Games Workshop catalog site. It won't say on the battle force, but if you look up each squad within the battle force, it's there.

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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I'm pretty new to AOS, but sounds like a good time for Soulblight Gravelords Vyrkos Dynasty? Blobs of battle line zombies each backed and buffed by a vampire lord?

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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punishedkissinger posted:

youre gonna want to have 1-2 units of graveguard as well. they are the best damage dealer you have.

Is it too much to hope that the new sculpts for Sons of Velmorn means we’ll be seeing an updated sculpt for Grave Guard generally soon? The old ones don’t inspire me compared to how nice the new stuff is.

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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I’ve got the beginning of my Soulblight Gravelords army halfway built (2021 battle force and Cursed City). I’ve settled on the paint scheme so my main task is to paint it. It would be my first fully painted army I’ve done in a long time, I’ve been focusing on skirmish games, but I really like this army and am excited to try AoS. I’ll probably try to follow along with the new year new army/armies on parade milestones at my local GW store.

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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War and Pieces posted:

Crossposting: anyone else get the impression that Sigmar's regime is *more* fascist than the Imperium?

I don't know about *more* fascist, except that he's actually an active god with powers and the Emperor is sidelined, so Sigmar can exert more direct influence on how things are run, but it's definitely more fascist than I thought before I started actually reading AOS lore.

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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Basing is just the sculpted bases they come on, but here’s my Da Kunnin Krew.

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Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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tangy yet delightful posted:

ohhh is that Warcry or Underworlds warband I guess? I like that you did an alternate flesh color!

Yeah, Underworlds. I'm realizing now that that image is really poor quality. Here are a few that are a little better:




Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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New Seraphon look awesome. And having just started Soulblight Gravelords and being excited about skirmish scale games, I'm very happy to see the vampires in the next Warcry box.

DLC Inc posted:

hope they decide to let us buy that Warcry poo poo separately. I'm so tired of them tying interesting miniatures to a gigantic loving box.

Like Kill Team, they release the war bands separately a little after the next big box comes out. Rotmire Creed and Horns of Hashut from Heart of Ghur are available separately right now, for example.

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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GreenMarine posted:

Astrolith icon has a bit of genestealer vibe.

Both are representing some manner of Star God(s).

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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Grizzled Patriarch posted:

Looks like part of a Warcry warband maybe? Pretty much only those and a few ETB kits that have the pre-sculpted bases nowadays.

Good call. I'd guess an Underworlds war band? They've been doing call backs to old favorites, and the Eyes of the Nine could use a revisit.

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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Covermeinsunshine posted:

You call that slow I just bought wyrdhollow. Only thing that saves my wallet this month is that gallowfall is gone already but this warcry box is must have for me

I tried to get Wyrdhollow, but one area GW store was out (the one having a store anniversary, so I ended up not getting any of the tiered rewards, I might try for them when the other store has its anniversary in November), the other was closed, the independent store in between them didn't get theirs in yet. I am going to have to track down Gallowfall, and I've been tempted by both recent Warcry boxes but I think I'll wait and get just the vampires when they're released alone next week, and maybe the same for the Flesheaters.

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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Covermeinsunshine posted:

Yeah its kinda garbage. New underworld set comes out and its great - nothing. New warcry set comes out and its the best thing ever - still nothing

And sadly, this is how it is in real life too. I was running our local Underworlds meetups for over a year. We went from getting 4-6 people to maybe getting 1 or 2. I finally stopped when I asked people for their preferred times for a tournament using the cool official organized play Gnarlwood pack with alt art cards and a trophy, and then nobody showed up. I'd love to play Underworlds again or get into Warcry, but I'm going to get into Kill Team instead because I can actually get games of it. Tentatively hopeful that Star Wars: Shatterpoint will be good and get some local scene but not holding my breath on the latter even if the former is true. And I'm in a major metropolitan area.

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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Cooked Auto posted:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/05/28/sunday-preview-start-new-adventures-into-the-underworlds/

It's yet another small pre-order weekend for AoS, with only the new Warhammer Underworlds starter set, featuring the Sepulchral Guard facing off against some older Stormcast models.

The The Headsmen’s Curse warband will also be available separately.
As well as new rivals deck.

I can't tell, does the new starter set come with anything new if you already have Farstriders and Sepulchral Guard? I guess the objective decks must be updated to be full size by modern standards? Anyone have the list of cards and what boards it comes with?

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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JBP posted:

I don't understand what you mean by separation of the races? It seems cool to me.

Cities of Sigmar – Orders Help Mortals Stand Fast Against Gods and Daemons posted:

There are two universal orders, three orders that apply exclusively to HUMAN units, and two orders each for AELF and DUARDIN units, opening up a host of tactical options for armies using these troops.

The orders are broken up by what race the unit is, which seems counter to the Cities of Sigmar aesthetic of all the different races living and working together.

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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Man I wish my local Underworlds scene was still alive. I just went and organized and sleeved all the cards for the game.

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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Yeah, I ran the monthly meet up at my local store for over a year, getting maybe 1-3 people each time, trying to keep it alive after a couple people moved away. The breaking point was when I organized a tournament, with prize support I provided, multiple people RSVP’d to it, and then nobody showed up.

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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On the inside, we're all skeletons.

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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Geisladisk posted:

Even having a different order faction than SCE in the launch box would be a pretty big departure.

True. I could see maybe Cities of Sigmar, but that's it.

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:

Wait, is James Workshop some thing they've been doing or an internet meme they're having fun with?

Internet meme that they embraced.

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Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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That's awesome, and I do need wolves and bats.

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