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grieving for Gandalf posted:this is my only disagreement here. if it has hosed up stuff like lots of naked middle schoolers and something about a living toilet, I don't know how you just get past that like iunno, imagine if the sex jokes in early dragon ball got way way waaaaayyyy worse instead of mostly disappearing. and also dragon ball was airing in 2015 or w/e. work with me here. someone could watch the early dragon ball stuff and think the stuff with master roshi and bulma sucks but be into the fun dragon ball adventure and the martial arts and stuff, and then later on there's way worse jokes with master roshi or smth, but they dont know it because the anime adaptation hasnt gotten to it yet. theres a disconnect where the manga is both later into the material and the anime tries to cover up for some of the manga's weirdest poo poo, so people dont fully grasp what it is. i think its fair to give people some benefit of the doubt imo. i know this might be controversial but i think most people arent pedophiles and if presented with the material in the later manga straight up, unabridged, would go 'yeah that shouldnt be discussed on this forum.' in that hypothetical dragon ball scenario the people going 'i hope master roshi creeps on the 14 year old more' would be bannable but the people saying 'kamehamehas are cool' or 'yeah the sex jokes are kinda weird' wouldnt be.
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imo if someone's a creep, you're not gonna have to go back five years to find the one post in which they let their creepiness slip usually they're creepy on a pretty regular basis and they've probably already got two dozen sixers for being creepy and everyone tries to run them out of half the threads they post in, but it never goes beyond sixers, presumably because bans are a precious resource the admins have to hoard just in case they're needed later
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# ? Jul 12, 2022 05:12 |
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Endorph posted:thats the thing, i know this is an extremely funny point to make and i agree its incredibly funny to point out where the living toilet fits into the continuity, but it does feel kinda relevant. i havent watched mia at all but it seems like a lot of that stuff comes in as it goes on. and the anime cuts out a ton of the nudity from the manga. and that toilet scene seems to be from a manga chapter made after s1 of the anime aired. the torture scene clip is from the recent movie. obviously in a narrative sense something about a descent into a dark labyrinth or w/e is going to get darker/more hosed up as it goes, its just that it is also, the bad kind of hosed up that it keeps layering on. not that the early material seems spotless and innocent or anything given the posts in that thread but still, its easy to see how there's a level where some people could get past it and then it could introduce way worse stuff later. I'm with you on the dragon ball stuff, but I feel like you're getting lost in the reeds with the dates on stuff because it appears that people were discussing the manga and the anime in that thread, and many (which we agreed should be done away with) were turned onto the manga with the promise of child nudity. I also feel like some posters probably know just well enough not to out and out say they like that part, and just post about the strong themes of resilience through adversity as relayed through the nude children being dismembered (?)
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# ? Jul 12, 2022 05:12 |
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Vizuyos posted:imo if someone's a creep, you're not gonna have to go back five years to find the one post in which they let their creepiness slip
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# ? Jul 12, 2022 05:14 |
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homeless snail posted:the grouchio rule absolutely stunning that they're not perma'd, and that's before the awful MiA posts
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# ? Jul 12, 2022 05:15 |
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people were discussing the anime and manga in that thread but not everyone was watching/reading both, is what im saying here. or even watched all the way through the anime as it aired. like someone who watched two episodes of it and went 'oh this seems neat' and then didnt watch or post anymore about it shouldn't be punished.
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# ? Jul 12, 2022 05:17 |
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How does Grouchio keep doing it?
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# ? Jul 12, 2022 05:19 |
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Fluffdaddy posted:Can someone start a new chat thread and we can close this one. And go maybe 5-6 pages not talking about QCS, MIA or any of that? sounds like something the new adtrw mod could do...oh wait
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# ? Jul 12, 2022 05:20 |
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Endorph posted:people were discussing the anime and manga in that thread but not everyone was watching/reading both, is what im saying here. or even watched all the way through the anime as it aired. like someone who watched two episodes of it and went 'oh this seems neat' and then didnt watch or post anymore about it shouldn't be punished. yeah, sure. I think it'd be fairly easy, if maybe requiring some time, to go through and figure out who that was vs those who aren't good people that we want here
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# ? Jul 12, 2022 05:20 |
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this forum has a consistent problem where absolutely awful creeps get to hang around and instead of ever getting anything more than sixers they just get treated badly. see also: bust rodd, hedrigall
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# ? Jul 12, 2022 05:20 |
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# ? May 13, 2024 10:03 |
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There’s a lot really terrible posters that I don’t know how they haven’t eaten a perma. Usually they have some sort of squad quick to defend them if they get slapped on the wrist
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