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Silly Burrito
Nov 27, 2007

SET A COURSE FOR
THE FLAVOR QUADRANT
On the plus side, I see that Mick Foley is coming to Lafayette, LA to do his show. Just snapped up VIP tickets for me and the wife. :dance:

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BGrifter
Mar 16, 2007

Winner of Something Awful PS5 thread's Posting Excellence Award June 2022

Congratulations!
well I can’t say I enjoyed the show but I did quite enjoy the thread so thanks!

WrestleHut threads always deliver even when the show itself does not. (especially when the show itself does not?)

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

fit em all up in there posted:

Is this the worst rumble

yes

Ringo Roadagain
Mar 27, 2010

Nothing on this show was good. Some things were less bad than others, but that was it

Spuckuk
Aug 11, 2009

Being a bastard works



Well I hate absolutely all of that

graph
Nov 22, 2006

aaag peanuts

Maduo posted:

It was the worst Rumble of all time. At least '15 was so incredibly petty it wrapped back around to hilarious.

i agree with this

Pylons
Mar 16, 2009

Wrong thread

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

is pepsi ok posted:

ronda, charlotte, becky, brock, roman. that's all the people who matter.

lol impossible to guess what year this is other than rousey i guess

NowonSA
Jul 19, 2013

I am the sexiest poster in the world!

Jerusalem posted:

It was fun posting along with you guys though, and I got some schadenfreude out of seeing how bad WWE is now that I'm not watching, thanks for making that terrible show somewhat fun to watch! :)

Yep I'm in the same boat too. It was cheap enough and I was bored so I gave it a chance, but it's no more buys from me for quite awhile.

Roasted Donut posted:

Not by a long shot. This absolutely sucked in pretty much every conceivable way but barely registers on how hard a lot of these shows have sucked in the history of this company.

For sure it's far from the list of worst WWE PPVs (I don't care, I'm gonna keep calling them PPVs) of any kind, and I honestly don't think this even makes it to the top 20 of the worst of the big 4. While I hate seeing them squander talent and not build up new stars this year, there have been past rumbles that had people who were far more obviously just one big moment like a rumble win and WM win from being ~a big deal~ and they went with other people instead, so it wasn't even the worst rumble in that respect.

Mileage will vary on this, but I think this proved to me that you can't really have a rumble match be a bad match when you measure it against wrestling matches in general. You can absolutely have rumbles that are clearly very, very bad compared to the very, very good ones, but I think both of this year's rumbles will be better than many of this year's WM matches, for example, and while this may not apply to everyone the rumble is enough of a unique spectacle that I don't think I've ever outright hated one. And when those sorts of matches are on the card, it keeps me from hating the PPV as a whole as well.

I was disappointed in this show, but goddamn have I been outright disgusted many times by the shows that WWE has tried to put on for me in the past. I think a big reason it's getting such a poor response here on the forums is that many posters have moved on to watching AEW and know that a wrestling PPV doesn't have to go like this, and that cameras can stay on the same shot for more than a literal moment before cutting.

NowonSA fucked around with this message at 06:39 on Jan 30, 2022

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

Nature Abhors A Vacuum


I know this is small potatoes in the grand scheme of things, but…. I just don’t understand treating the Kofi botch as an elimination instead of “refs got it wrong”- the one ref in the background understood and was waving safe.

Stone Cold won a royal rumble where he was thrown out and the refs weren’t looking and this is a sport where ref bumps happen all the time, including on this show! And in other sports refs get calls wrong. Just happens. The decision that they had to treat *that* as real and change plans when there were apparently other spots coming up involving Kofi is just baffling.

Rick
Feb 23, 2004
When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

chaoslord posted:

I know this is small potatoes in the grand scheme of things, but…. I just don’t understand treating the Kofi botch as an elimination instead of “refs got it wrong”- the one ref in the background understood and was waving safe.

Stone Cold won a royal rumble where he was thrown out and the refs weren’t looking and this is a sport where ref bumps happen all the time, including on this show! And in other sports refs get calls wrong. Just happens. The decision that they had to treat *that* as real and change plans when there were apparently other spots coming up involving Kofi is just baffling.

They absolutely should have, my only explanations are Vince is back on his "call it like a shoot even if it makes us look dumb as hell" poo poo or Kofi legit had the air knocked out of him which also is a possibility because they had some doctors come look at him.

SirDippingSauce
Oct 25, 2012

We're here to interrogate Manly Dan the lumberjack for the murder of wax Stan.

chaoslord posted:

I know this is small potatoes in the grand scheme of things, but…. I just don’t understand treating the Kofi botch as an elimination instead of “refs got it wrong”- the one ref in the background understood and was waving safe.

Stone Cold won a royal rumble where he was thrown out and the refs weren’t looking and this is a sport where ref bumps happen all the time, including on this show! And in other sports refs get calls wrong. Just happens. The decision that they had to treat *that* as real and change plans when there were apparently other spots coming up involving Kofi is just baffling.

Yeah, I don't get it. It also happened kinda too quickly to definitively tell (at first, before they IMMEDIATELY cut to slow-mo) and also, it's all made up. Why would they hang everyone out to dry like that?

BaronVanAwesome
Sep 11, 2001

I will never learn the secrets of "Increased fake female boar sp..."

Never say never, buddy.
Now you know.
Now we all know.
Welp just catching up now, gonna be very honest I checked out halfway through the first rumble match and painted Warhammer while glancing over every so often.

It was exactly in the worst spot a wrestling event can be: it wasn't entertaining whatsoever; wasn't bad enough to be fun, either.

I pledged that I'd stop watching WWE except for whatever year's Rumble and Mania, and...yowza, one event per year might be it for me.

Some positives because I don't want to be all negative:

-The camera work truthfully wasn't as bad as I remember it, a few cut-heavy moments but it's better than in my memory

-The bizarre finish of Reigns/Rollins was the strangest...cinematography?...I've ever seen in pro wrestling. I don't mean the actual match outcome, I mean no music playing after the DQ, no emotion from the announcers/performers/crowd, it went on for so long I thought something went wrong.

After way too long in the ring, we watch Roman take every step out of the arena, look for his keys, and follow him to his car. He checks his teeth in his fold-down mirror thing, and checks his phone for a bit. He pulls into the street from the parkade and heads towards his hotel. As he merges into traffic the camera fades and the next segment starts, which is an advertisement. On a PPV.

It was great and I have watched it a second time just now

NowonSA
Jul 19, 2013

I am the sexiest poster in the world!
I can't blame WWE entirely for this since Covid screwed things up for Day One, so technically we can't be sure this wasn't the plan (it absolutely wasn't the plan), but it would've been fun if the whole Reigns/Lesnar feud got settled at Day One with a Reigns win, then we had this exact Reigns/Rollins match from the rumble (DQ finish and all), then the battered body of Rollins entered late into the rumble and somehow squeaked out a win and cut a promo challenging Reigns to close out the show. Then the WM build is just more of these Reigns/Rollins mindgames, somehow Moxley gets brought up to ratchet things up a notch/make the hardcore fans gasp, and then Rollins architects his way into a Mania win by getting Reigns pissed enough that he makes a vital mistake or two, but not pissed enough that he nonstop murders Rollins in the ring and gets DQ'd.

That'd be the sort of story that would be fresh to me since Reigns and Rollins haven't been involved with each other in awhile, and you can rely more on character history stuff and not "OMG who is Paul Heyman really allied with?" stuff.

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

i didn't watch the royal rumble.

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost

Cavauro posted:

i didn't watch the royal rumble.

You chose wisely

Sex Farm
Nov 17, 2017

Whoever wins king of the ring should have to either start the rumble or be 30th

Sex Farm
Nov 17, 2017

The Royal rumble should be double elimination. Two rings near each other, if you get eliminate you go to the losers ring and if you get eliminated there you're out then the winner of the loser rumble should get immediately thrown out by Brock Lesnar

DeepDickPizza
Oct 11, 2012

THREE TIME! THREE TIME!

NowonSA posted:

Mileage will vary on this, but I think this proved to me that you can't really have a rumble match be a bad match when you measure it against wrestling matches in general. You can absolutely have rumbles that are clearly very, very bad compared to the very, very good ones, but I think both of this year's rumbles will be better than many of this year's WM matches, for example, and while this may not apply to everyone the rumble is enough of a unique spectacle that I don't think I've ever outright hated one. And when those sorts of matches are on the card, it keeps me from hating the PPV as a whole as well.

This is very true and also why I probably won't give Mania a shot again this year. Even if a Rumble is bad, and even if it is bad in the most boring way it can possibly be, it is still guaranteed to be bad in a vaguely entertaining way. poo poo is just happening constantly. Even when they're just booking people to lean on each other in the corner until Lesnar or Drew or whoever shows up to throw them all out aka the worst part of any Rumble, you still, even in that lovely moment get the small joy of going "WTF Boogs? lmao"

At a bad Wrestlemania, on the other hand, you're just stuck watching 20 minute matches with lovely builds and no heat and if something is bad, its badness just draaaaags out forever. This year's Mania we've got ANOTHER Brock/Roman match and probably Rousey/Charlotte as the selling points. Who in the gently caress has time to even laugh at either of those? Just wait for the funniest clips.

BGrifter
Mar 16, 2007

Winner of Something Awful PS5 thread's Posting Excellence Award June 2022

Congratulations!
I’ll probably tune in for a couple hours of Sunday night. But two days of Wrestlemania in 2022 sounds excruciating.

NowonSA
Jul 19, 2013

I am the sexiest poster in the world!

Sex Farm posted:

The Royal rumble should be double elimination. Two rings near each other, if you get eliminate you go to the losers ring and if you get eliminated there you're out then the winner of the loser rumble should get immediately thrown out by Brock Lesnar

Two rings and double elimination would never work you fool!

Clearly there should be a tournament consisting of 3 sets of 10-person rumbles with Round Robin scoring (5 matches let's say, so 15 matches total). I have no idea what you do after that because that's as far as I've gotten so far.

long-ass nips Diane
Dec 13, 2010

Breathe.

I was pretty stoned for the whole thing but I had a good time

Sex Farm
Nov 17, 2017

NowonSA posted:


Clearly there should be a tournament consisting of 3 sets of 10-person rumbles with Round Robin scoring (5 matches let's say, so 15 matches total)

I think we're both on to something and we should move this to PMs so none of these people steal our ideas

Sex Farm
Nov 17, 2017

long-rear end nips Diane posted:

I was pretty stoned for the whole thing but I had a good time

Must have been some good stuff then ! Hahaha

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
Thinks It's All Real

Charity Porno posted:

The thing i like about the Royal Rumble is when they use them to either call back to, or advance a relationship or story. You can't advance anything when half the competitors are only around for the one event on the women's side

Literally the only interesting thing going on in either rumble tonight was the Sonya/Naomi stuff.

RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:
https://mobile.twitter.com/PharrFromHeaven/status/1487334184670670851

El Generico
Feb 3, 2009

Birds revere you and consider you one of their own.

You are welcome in their holy places.
So, I was thinking of watching the Royal Rumble with my friends, thinking something exciting or weird might happen. I get the results of the Rumbles spoiled for me, and the winners are... Brock Lesnar and Ronda Rousey. Same people who were on top when I stopped watching.

I don't care to watch the Rumble any more.

Davros1
Jul 19, 2007

You've got to admit, you are kind of implausible



Sex Farm posted:

Whoever wins king of the ring should have to either start the rumble or be 30th

Honestly thought that's what the prize should be in the "Brand vs Brand" Survivor Series match. Winning Brand gets the number 30 spot, losers get the number 1 spot.

Then the shows could do storylines about how those numbers are given out. Maybe there's a five way match later among the wining team where the number 30 spot is on the line. Maybe the GM of the Loser brand is a heel, and gives the number 1 spot to the most popular face.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


El Generico posted:

So, I was thinking of watching the Royal Rumble with my friends, thinking something exciting or weird might happen. I get the results of the Rumbles spoiled for me, and the winners are... Brock Lesnar and Ronda Rousey. Same people who were on top when I stopped watching.

I don't care to watch the Rumble any more.

Not for you necessarily but for the people who think it Has to get better eventually (:rubby:):

Brock is 44. There were 6 other entrants (Styles, Roode, Knoxville, Sheamus, Rey, Shane) either the same age or older
Ronda is 34. There were 18 other entrants (Melina, Tamina, Kelly Kelly, Michelle McCool, Natalya, Cameron, Naomi, Carmella, Charlotte, Ivory [60 years old], Brie Bella, Nikki Bella, Mickie James, Alicia Fox, Summer Rae, Lita, Molly Holly, Shayna Baszler) either the same age or older
This is the first Rumble match since Reigns' main-roster debut that he wasn't in despite being active; every other one he's either won (2015), been in the final 2 (2014, 2017, 2018, 2020) or been in the final 3 (2016)

They can go to these wells a lot still

NienNunb
Feb 15, 2012

I don’t think it breaks the top five worst rumbles even. It sucked but it wasn’t evil the way some have been. Perspective, people.

BGrifter
Mar 16, 2007

Winner of Something Awful PS5 thread's Posting Excellence Award June 2022

Congratulations!
They managed to make the Royal Rumble feel about as exciting as a run of the mill RAW main event.

It’s probably not the worst one ever. But it’s impressive they managed to choke the life out of something as beloved as the Royal Rumble.

anakha
Sep 16, 2009


NienNunb posted:

I don’t think it breaks the top five worst rumbles even. It sucked but it wasn’t evil the way some have been. Perspective, people.

anakha posted:

The 5 worst-rated Rumble matches on Cagematch:
  • 2015 Men's (1.60)
  • 2022 Men's (1.84)
  • 1999 Men's (3.76)
  • 2022 Women's (4.38)
  • 1993 Men's (4.91)

The 5 worst-rated Rumble PPVs:
  • 2022 (2.60)
  • 2006 (3.60)
  • 2015 (4.36)
  • 1999 (5.05)
  • 1988/2012 (5.25)

Welp.

NienNunb
Feb 15, 2012

No I’m right

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


quote:

it wasn’t evil the way some have been

It's coming in between mass firings during a plague, and 3 weeks before a Saudi blood money show

The Cameo
Jan 20, 2005


I feel like judging where the Rumble matches themselves land when it hasn’t even been 24 hours since either isn’t going to give a real view of things at all, it being pretty bad but literally having just happened is going to tip the scales quite a bit. Recency bias and whatnot.

Like six months on people will be like “yeah neither was like, bottom five worst Rumbles, but they were pretty much the most blah ones ever. Nothing truly, actively awful, but nothing stood out either.” People will remember the sign getting lit on fire and a couple years on it’ll have been embellished into the sign bursting into flames because it’ll be funnier to remember that they blew up WrestleMania for part timers because they can’t build stars anymore

Pylons
Mar 16, 2009

There was a lot that was objectively bad about the Rumbles that you can point to and will probably be remembered.

bladeworksmaster
Sep 6, 2010

Ok.

Looking at it, I definitely think 2015 was a much worse Rumble for sheer petty spite, but it was also much funnier and had actual spots to it that can be remembered, which is more than I can say for this one where there was gently caress all bar the botched Kofi spot.

So really, what do you rate as worse, bad or boring?

RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:
what was so bad about 2015?

dodgeblan
Jul 20, 2019
Before the terrible finish I thought Roman/Seth was one of the best WWE matches I've seen in ages. It actually had an emotional hook and long term storytelling. The go home was really awesome and the SHIELD gear was cool. It was also one of the only times I've thought that Seth's weird goober character actually worked.

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Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


RealityWarCriminal posted:

what was so bad about 2015?

The last half of the Rumble was spent on Bryan Danielson being eliminated midway through and walking away sad as Goldust's Shattered Dreams Tron graphic lingered in the background, then having everyone left that fans liked get knocked out and eliminated like trash by Kane and/or Show, then having Reigns be the hero that gets revenge for them by beating up both and winning. Only obviously he couldn't do that on his own so his buddy Dwayne came back to help and got booed for it

Somehow this is all remembered as dire and not funny as hell

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