- Dopilsya
- Apr 3, 2010
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He can't endlessly gently caress seamen. . . because of the union. 
Rum gone in 1914, now this? So much for the naval tradition
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- Dopilsya
- Apr 3, 2010
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The Ukraine invasion felt like the first piece of evidence I’ve ever personally witnessed toward horseshoe theory.
I know both right and left wingers who seem to support Russia for different reasons. We’ve already covered the tankie arguments, but other people are still uncritical in their beliefs that any foreign policy decision America does is wrong or imperialist. So for that reason despite being left wing they support Russia or are against aid.
On the right wing side many people view Russia as the poster child of traditional conservative values and a bulwark of white Christian nationalism. They see Russia as a counterbalance to what is perceived as excessive woke politics in America and view the culture as aspirational. They also buy into the idea that Ukrainians are a lesser ethnic group who deserve to be exploited.
Syrian Civil War was another bumper crop of that. I knew a lot of right wingers who thought that undercover Muslim liberal nazi dictator B. Hussein Obama would do anything to put an Islamofascist terrorist in charge of Syria and Assad was just doing what was necessary to defend against that.
There were also a bunch of dummies on the left who thought that liberal nazi amerikkkan dictator Barack Obama was destroying a glorious socialist state. Including having his fascist coup squad nerve gas themselves and their own kids in order to make Assad look bad, which only proves the depths to which the US gov will sink.
from my american doing post-soviet studies angle, the war has further underscored what was kinda already my take on laypersons' understanding of russia: americans have gently caress all understanding of comparative politics and society and often use other countries as mysterious fairylands that we can project extreme versions of our own hopes and fears onto--they're all so far away and have so little impact on our daily lives that we rarely have any reason to try and understand them beyond a surface level
decades of being the preeminent world military, economic, and cultural power doesn't really encourage studying the rest of the world, and so while we now live in a globalized world with greater access to news and culture outside our bubble than ever before, most of us don't bother engaging with it, and unlike many other countries virtually none of us do so out of necessity
granted, people with extreme views would likely hold them even if that weren't the case, but there's more room to fill in the blanks with fantasy, and less likelihood the average person will encounter someone who has any depth of knowledge not colored by extremist fantasy
i had not heard of this nonsense til recently when they came out as part of the local "we must recall the local progressive DA because CRIME" faction. some other goon was surprised the larouche people were still at all active, but yeah, the prototypical "shows up at council meetings to sit in front of the camera with a big 'wake up sheeple' banner, perennially loses in local political races, can be found in whatever flavor of the day right wing protest movement" lady i saw in that prominently announces her adherence to the political philosophy of mr larouche on her personal website
To be fair, it's not unique to Americans. Orwell is evergreen.
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