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a dumb moron posted:Yeah it makes AEW more valuable, but if I am reading between the lines, it seems that WBD doesn’t really have the money lying around like it seems. They do if they lose the NBA, but if they pay through the nose to keep the NBA, that's less money for AEW. It's also possible WBD goes with a smaller package of games, possibly without conference finals. Pylons fucked around with this message at 17:01 on Apr 30, 2024 |
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MJeff posted:Basically if WBD loses the NBA, it's NBC misses that old 90s NBA kids show and they want to recreate the Michael Jordan magic. The big deal in all of the world of streaming is live sports right now. I do not think that back libraries matter as much as getting live sports.
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Yeah but we're talking about the C package, here.
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MJeff posted:I wonder what NBC gains from this, it sounds like it's just a wild overpay. I assume this is Universal deciding the WWE Network money is better put towards the NBA than renewing that deal, especially with Netflix having shown how willing they'll be to outbid Universal on the WWE Network renewal.
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MJeff posted:Basically if WBD loses the NBA, it's More desperation to build Peacock probably.
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Dynamite/Collision on Showtime and Rampage on TVLand is gonna slap
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blunt posted:I assume this is Universal deciding the WWE Network money is better put towards the NBA than renewing that deal, especially with Netflix having shown how willing they'll be to outbid Universal on the WWE Network renewal. That deal was one billion over five years. This is 2.5 billion a year. Granted WWE would've wanted an increase, but man. MassRafTer posted:More desperation to build Peacock probably. That's kinda what I'm feeling. Everybody hated the NFL games on Peacock but they watched them, so. Who knows.
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WBD go all in on the WNBA so we can see Caitlin Clark punch Stokley's lights out.
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WBD going all in on the WNBA is how we get Mick Foley in AEW.
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So what happens to Inside the NBA? I guess there's nothing saying it has to be on a network that actually airs any games. Unless there is.
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Pylons posted:So what happens to Inside the NBA? I guess there's nothing saying it has to be on a network that actually airs any games. Unless there is. I'd imagine the first thing NBC does is throw a poo poo ton of money at trying to bring that crew to their coverage. WBD has a match clause so it's also possible NBC is just jacking up the price knowing that WBD kinda has to match it.
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Truther Vandross posted:I'd imagine the first thing NBC does is throw a poo poo ton of money at trying to bring that crew to their coverage. I think WBD has them on long term contracts.
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MassRafTer posted:More desperation to build Peacock probably. Yeah it's this, they keep throwing good money after bad to justify not licensing their own content to Netflix et al. Pylons posted:So what happens to Inside the NBA? I guess there's nothing saying it has to be on a network that actually airs any games. Unless there is. Seems like the kind of thing Amazon would pay through the nose for (just like their TNF coverage).
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Pylons posted:I think WBD has them on long term contracts. Sure, but a lot of times in situations like this, those get bought out by other outlets because the network is basically just pissing money away retaining those deals.
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Pylons posted:I think WBD has them on long term contracts. https://www.si.com/media/2022/10/17/tnt-announces-extensions-for-all-four-inside-the-nba-personalities https://www.si.com/media/2022/10/17/charles-barkley-tnt-agree-contract-per-report Barkley signed an extension through 2032, and since Shaq/Ernie/Kenny were extended at the same time it seems reasonable to assume that they're signed for the next eight years as well it'd be a very Warner move to give these guys big-money deals and then lose NBA rights so that's what I suspect will happen
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wow their plan went off exactly how they hoped it would and it made sense to save the swerve promo for saturday with the nba lead-in? what are the odds
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I think I already know the answer but why was Alfred Konuwa posting the fast nationals for Collision this week? I know because I got about a half dozen "SUGGESTED POSTS" on Facebook that showed Collision only did about 490k viewers.
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A Fancy Hat posted:I think I already know the answer but why was Alfred Konuwa posting the fast nationals for Collision this week? I know because I got about a half dozen "SUGGESTED POSTS" on Facebook that showed Collision only did about 490k viewers. Did he post the demo as well? If not, there's your answer.
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Barry Bluejeans posted:https://www.si.com/media/2022/10/17/tnt-announces-extensions-for-all-four-inside-the-nba-personalities IIRC there were outs in the contracts if WBD did lose the NBA rights. Ernie does other things for Turner which makes me believe that he won't leave/be let out even if they lose the NBA. Charles has the CNN show and NCAA Tournament but I can't believe that he would make what he's making now with just those two. Kenny also has the NCAA Tournament and Shaq is on NBA TV which is also broadcast out of Turner's studios in Atlanta. At the same time, Inside's magic is the production staff which has foistered an environment which lets the crew riff and be themselves, while being able to mess with them at the same time. I can't think of any other analyst on TV who allowes themselves to get dunked on as much as Barkley does, and the Shaqtin'/Gone Fishing stuff may go by the wayside at another show who either wants to be more serious or the NBA itself cracks down under the guise of not wanting to look foolish in any situation, which is more of an NFL tactic but you never know. Is it possible that either Amazon or NBC pays out the nose to get all four of them, plus whomever else from Turner that they deem essential? Sure, but it's also as likely that they go their separate ways and it's the end of an era for a Hall of Fame show.
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I just remember when this went in the other direction, the NHL going from NBC to TNT, the NHL felt like a dull, boring product on NBC and TNT gave it a much needed injection of life with their studio show and the idea of the NBA going the opposite direction worries me a bit.
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I could also see the mix of being on streaming and broadcast TV itself being more appealing to the NBA given how cable is going. But than it's Peacock and I'm not sure any amount of sports can save it when people will want it to make money
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Bizarro Kanyon posted:NBC misses that old 90s NBA kids show and they want to recreate the Michael Jordan magic. Just put all seasons of Hang Time on Peacock if that’s the case! City Guys too, just because.
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Coaaab posted:on the other hand, if nbc wants to minimize the "back in our day" bullshit and put more respect on the game being played today, I'd welcome that too Yeah ever since Shaq got added to inside the nba I've watched it less and less
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Cannot stress enough that NBC as a network is dogass and the likelihood they'll improve any sport they carry is extremely low
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SNF is generally “fine” because NBC gets good games, but all their other sports presentations (Hockey, Olympics, College FB) are usually complete rear end. This seems like lighting money on fire for them for a C package but whatever. All the streaming services continue to light money on fire.
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I don't watch a lot of the NBA but I like TNT's presentation when I do and would be bummed if they lose it. The NHL coverage has been good and while I don't know how much control they have over March Madness vs CBS, that's always good too.
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Endless Mike posted:I'm glad the Panthers beat the vile Lightning so I can watch Dynamite on Wednesday rip stamkos
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The Barkley CNN show ended. As with everything WBD does, it was killed before it could do anything. I saw this as someone who actually signed up and was ready to pay for CNN+ (as a social studies teacher, I saw some value) before it was cancelled 5 days later.
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Bizarro Kanyon posted:The Barkley CNN show ended. As with everything WBD does, it was killed before it could do anything. I saw this as someone who actually signed up and was ready to pay for CNN+ (as a social studies teacher, I saw some value) before it was cancelled 5 days later. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/cnn-king-charles-ends-limited-series-1235874249/ I imagine part of it was the Playoffs forcing Charles to talk about basketball more than once a week, plus he ain’t gonna work during his summer vacation in lovely Galveston.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qdhj_uvmOfY&hd=1 Alvarez sure is spending alot of his time making sure noone thinks the ratings are ever good.
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Seemed like a pretty fair analysis to me. It was a normal Collision number with a big lead-in that didn't last longer than a few minutes. The only thing I would say is that relative to the competition for the night, "a normal Collision number" is pretty good.
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to be fair as well, I've seen him do this kind of analysis a bunch of times for WWE. This is a very typical segment he's done for years and years.
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It's not very good because he's very bad at supporting his arguments and it's ratings talk that boils down to "number good, could be better, they're probably ok with it but want it to be better too" but I don't think he's really unfairly pushing that the numbers are actually bad.
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Hell yeah Sting https://twitter.com/DrainBamager/status/1785693767594287531
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