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Most of the Vegapunks don't need to have a connection to the giant brain, just the Stella has a receiver. The others periodically sync up with Punk Records. I assume they have their own brains that'll work fine on their own. I guess that's not been explicitly said, but their whole plan to flee doesn't make much sense if that's not the case. (It's still not clear how the Stella was going to flee, but that's a moot point now.)
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York keeping information secret from the others just flat out doesn't make sense if they don't have some degree of autonomy and internal privacy.
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Vegapunk being unwilling to judge his killers as evil is interesting. I thought he might have been covering for the Strawhats with the understanding that they'll be blamed, but he does say "whether I'm arrested or executed," implying that he's expecting the World Government to be responsible. And he's not willing to say they are evil. There's got to be more to the story- I'm guessing the World Government is the product of some people making what seemed like the best decision they could at the time. Perhaps the people they fought, the ones whose dreams could be made real, were in some way a threat to the world and the World Government was set up to contain that threat. Perhaps the sinking world was a process set up by the ancient dreamers, and the World Government has been trying to slow it down. We've seen that the Mother Flame island death laser raises the sea level. Maybe it utilizes the ancient power that was flooding the world and the World Government doesn't want it to fall in other hands not just because blowing up islands is... destabilizing, but if other people were using it the world would be sinking even faster. If Marijoa isn't self sufficient- they need the rest of the world to not sink. I'm guessing if this is the case they have no solution to the problem, they're just delaying as long as they can, and that's why Vegapunk feels the need to let people know what's going on, in the hopes that someone can fix the problem, even if it risks making things a lot worse if other people start tapping into that dangerous power that accelerates sea level rise.
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In the official translation, Stella says, “…whoever may have rendered their judgment unto me…I am not trying to convince you that their intent is evil. I will not apply the labels of good and evil at all, in fact…because I understand too little about him to begin with.” Emphasis from the original, and note that the panel with “him” in bold shows Saturn. To me, this can only be Imu, and it’s very interesting that Vegapunk isn’t sure about this, given that he is otherwise aware of the many evils of the World Government. I’m a little skeptical we’re getting a Gurren-Lagann-style story where DF users/pre-void century societies are so dangerous to the safety of the world that they had to be put down for their own good, or something—Oda doesn’t write a lot of well-intentioned antagonists, he prefers completely self-interested monsters who shock the audience with their villainy. The only thing I can think of is that Imu owns the giant straw hat because he used to be Joyboy, and that’s the source of Vegapunk’s uncertainty? Either way, I don’t think he’s just making a rhetorical point about morality, and it’s weird to me. It’s also notable that when Stella brings up the main point of the broadcast, he says, “What I am about to tell you is so preposterous…you might even burst into laughter.” That’s gotta be significant.
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rko posted:It’s also notable that when Stella brings up the main point of the broadcast, he says, “What I am about to tell you is so preposterous…you might even burst into laughter.” That’s gotta be significant. Oh no Roger is a climate change denier 
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Electric Phantasm posted:Oda showing his process of the cover page Lol at the "draw the rest of the loving owl" cut 40 seconds in
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One Piece Manga Thread: Vat are you sinking about?
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Farg posted:hey so like, there's no way the eventual "pirate with an eyepatch" isn't joyboy right probably but on the other hand maybe not
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Farg posted:hey so like, there's no way the eventual "pirate with an eyepatch" isn't joyboy right its either joyboy, rocks, some kind of "first pirate" (like davy jones), or a future state of luffy or blackbeard i still think blackbeard kills shanks, but shanks gets in a blow that gives blackbeard the eyepatch imo anime was right fucked around with this message at 21:17 on Apr 28, 2024 |
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So this is a little late chapter wise but hell it made me laugh at least. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4zAL8L-p3g
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Electric Phantasm posted:Oda showing his process of the cover page Oda mapping out the piece moves to make sure that they were in valid positions is madness
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Firebert posted:Oda mapping out the piece moves to make sure that they were in valid positions is madness If he didn’t, how many SRS entries would he get about it? We know he’s sane because he didn’t play out the other side.
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Was thinking about the “Rayleigh became a ship coater after learning the world is gonna sink” thing and just realised Crocus decided to start living inside a whale lol Also a plausible explanation for why Shanks and his crew don’t gently caress with devil fruits
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I'm just out here thinking the end game has got to be some absolutely apocalyptic poo poo to rectify this. And no doubt it's going to be a wombo combo of Uranus, Pluton and Shirahoshi in some manner. Also rewatching the Wano arc and the constant references to the New Dawn makes me think the D. actually stands for the Dawn itself.
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MorningMoon posted:https://www.viz.com/shonenjump/one-piece-chapter-1113/chapter/42629?action=read Ha! I was right! In the official translation, Vegapunk specifically points out a "him" that he doesn't know well enough about so he can't make a judgment call on their morality either way. I'm calling it, he's referring to Imu. Boom. e: Wait, wait, wait hold the phone. The phrasing of the convo with the Five Elders at the end right before the Don splash page makes it sound like the Five Elders are debating with Imu whether they can just go ahead with blowing up Punk Records to stop the broadcast. I think they are reluctant to take action because they need Imu's approval first. Based on the fan translation I thought that the Five Elders were just debating among themselves, but the official translation completely changes the implication of their telepathy. I think Imu is in the group chat with them, so to speak, and is the admin directly overseeing their actions. 
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Teriyaki Koinku posted:Ha! I was right! In the official translation, Vegapunk specifically points out a "him" that he doesn't know well enough about so he can't make a judgment call on their morality either way. I'm calling it, he's referring to Imu. Boom.
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CommunityEdition posted:If he didn’t, how many SRS entries would he get about it? We know he’s sane because he didn’t play out the other side. We don't know that, maybe next
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Cat Machine posted:Who else could he be talking about at this point? Vegapunk is a proponent of Borsalino redemption
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Caidin posted:Vegapunk is a proponent of Borsalino redemption lmao
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It may be setting up for the general public to possibly believe Vegapunk is talking about Luffy killing him. The same page has Duval mentioning it's public knowledge that the Straw Hats are holding Vegapunk hostage
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Terper posted:Lol at the "draw the rest of the loving owl" cut 40 seconds in Yeah I was excited to find out he does all his roughs and layouts in Clip Studio Paint then once that's finalized it seems he prints out the roughs and light boxes them so he can trace them out on paper with pens, then from THAT he scans the line art in again and then uses CSP to color it in using marker brushes. That way there is actually a physical original. edit: now that I look at it I think he's even roughing out the colors on the scanned image so he can use that as a template for actually coloring the original with Copic markers. GATOS Y VATOS fucked around with this message at 15:55 on Apr 29, 2024 |
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Onmi posted:It's another of those "Everything falls into place" for example Hey so why do the Celestial Dragons all wear loving bubble helmets? Why does the sea reject Devil Fruits? Hey so how did the 20 countries join with Imu in the first place? Was it joining with Imu? or was it "We'll bend the knee please don't loving kill us"? Why does Impel Down have boarded up windows in the water? How did those walls erected in Wano get there? I always thought they wore helmets for this reason. (Imu) 
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Havoc904 posted:I always thought they wore helmets for this reason. If we see Imu awkwardly asking for hand jobs we'll definitely know where the inspiration was from.
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Havoc904 posted:I always thought they wore helmets for this reason. Things can be multiple things. Edit: also, just realized that this reveal explains why the World Government hates fishmen so much. Capfalcon fucked around with this message at 02:40 on Apr 30, 2024 |
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I'm going to assume I'm the first to point out that Imu backwards = Umi = Sea, so obviously, he is personally what is 'sinking' the world 
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Browsing the OP reddit usually means between spoilers and some fun theories and fan art, you get a lot of cosplay. Most is from women upping their web presence with an assist from Oda's designs, but there was a delightful Ivankov, Ho boy, lots of good Ivankov's out there   One Piece truly has something for everyone  Bonus: 
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Flopsy posted:I'm just out here thinking the end game has got to be some absolutely apocalyptic poo poo to rectify this. And no doubt it's going to be a wombo combo of Uranus, Pluton and Shirahoshi in some manner. Also rewatching the Wano arc and the constant references to the New Dawn makes me think the D. actually stands for the Dawn itself. i think the "one piece" is, quite literally, merely one piece of what's needed to rescue the world from destruction. i certainly glossed over the name before when reading under the assumption that it was just a kind of made up name oda thought was cool, but i really should've known better smuh posted:I'm going to assume I'm the first to point out that Imu backwards = Umi = Sea, so obviously, he is personally what is 'sinking' the world i already posted my theory a bit back, but i'm inclined to believe that imu actually isn't the one causing the world to flood. they're heavily implied to be one of the original founding elders, meaning they only came around during the void century, and there's things like noah being a void century relic, the tree of knowledge's odd shape, zunesha's existence, rayleigh getting into ship coating (implying that joy boy knew the world would flood again and left that knowledge in laugh tale), and wano's seawalls that point towards the world having having being at least partially drowned before
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Gologle posted:I will admit I am a little flabbergasted that in a pirate story set in a world of pirates and oceans and ships and stuff the sea, the thing they spend a good 90% of their lives on, is evil I think the original framing that the ocean hates devil fruits as unnatural and that's why devil fruit users sink and lose their powers in water has already been undermined by several points, like the fact that the water weakness is actually slightly more complex, extends to all water, and distinguishes between standing and moving water. Between the chapter's revelation and the earlier suggestion that devil fruits represent the human will to change the world, the original framing now seems a lot like spin.
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i'm not actually sure that "devil fruits make you drown" needs much more of an explanation than "lineage factor." if we're in a world where the light of the moon can let minks go apeshit, then a devil fruit driving your lineage factor so off the evolutionary rails that anything that resembles the source of all natural life starts acting like poison is totally believable
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Gologle posted:I will admit I am a little flabbergasted that in a pirate story set in a world of pirates and oceans and ships and stuff the sea, the thing they spend a good 90% of their lives on, is evil
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