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We're at one of the most exciting points of One Piece. Next week there will be a completely new adventure! For the first time in 10 years we have no idea what island the Strawhats are heading for! I can't wait to see what kind of fantastic new island Oda comes up with next! Unless of course we cut away to news of the world. That would be really exciting too!
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Aug 22, 2022 17:48
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Rody One Half posted:Just top to bottom, there really was nothing good about Dressarossa but Ussop.
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Aug 23, 2022 06:39
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The best thing about the fight with Katakuri being so even, so drawn out, and so grueling, was that he was just a henchman. If Luffy could barely break even with him after all that. Surely fighting Big Mom or Kaido wold be entirely hopeless! It did a ton to hype up the Kaido fight, and the Worst Generation vs Emperor showdown in general. Even though Kaido was beaten decisively by Gear 5 out of nowhere, even before that Luffy was trading blows on Kaido's level with the conqueror-haki-infused punches. Even if Luffy probably wasn't quite able to take out Kaido without Gear 5, he got within sight of a victory, and he was ultimately taken out by CP0 so we don't actually know for sure how he would have stacked up against Kaido, even if it didn't look good. To get to that level after what he went through with Katakuri feels like a lot of growth in a really visceral way, and is great payoff for all his advanced haki training with that yakuza dude in the prison. The absolute tortuous length of the Katakuri fight is really what sets the groundwork for all that. There are some really satisfying power level dynamics in the battle against the Emperors. It's really good. And then Gear 5 shows up. So  (Gear 5 is really cool, but it's the most awkward departure from an otherwise exciting and dramatic power level curve.)
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Aug 23, 2022 08:28
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Silly clickbait. Franky barely gets any lines at all during that period, with Luffy or otherwise. Including Whole Cake is pretty misleading. I bet Ussop and Robin would have a similar dry spell were it not for a couple lines on Zou. That said, I'm really looking forward to the whole crew chilling and having a good time together! It's been too long. Considering Sanji was already gone when the crew was together on Zou, the last time everyone was just casually voyaging together was the trip from Punk Hazard to Dressrosa.
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Aug 23, 2022 21:54
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MonsterEnvy posted:She's 6 years younger than Whitebeard. But Whitebeard's decline was more because he was ill, not because of his age. Garp and Sengoku are 4 and 5 years older than him respectively, and are in much better shape.
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Aug 24, 2022 20:55
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Yep, this chapter was everything I could have hoped for!Bisse posted:One of his twin fetuses will absorb the negativity, leaving Parasitic Blackbeard unaffected.
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Aug 26, 2022 12:46
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With regards to Mihawk's bounty: he's always been presented as Shanks' rival and a superior combatant. He may have only been a Shichibukai, but he's always been on a Yonkou level when it comes to pure combat ability. At least that's the impression I've always had. The only reason he wasn't a Yonkou before is that he couldn't be bothered to do anything but study the blade. Now that he's got Buggy and Crocodile to handle the logistics of running a pirate empire, he's instantly as threatening, if not more threatening, as Shanks is as a Yonkou. His bounty appropriately reflects that, even if Buggy gets the actual title.
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Aug 26, 2022 14:47
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Star Platinum posted:Hey, Buggy had a decent power boost between East Blue and Impel Down. Remember the Muggy Ball?
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Aug 26, 2022 16:12
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Mraagvpeine posted:Remember that one SBS that said that if Crocodile's bounty wasn't frozen it'd be double? HA Enel would only get a crazy bounty if he did something really destabilizing to the World Government, like getting people to believe he was God and declaring a religious war against the Celestial Dragons.
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Aug 27, 2022 19:47
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RuBisCO posted:Brook's been deaf this whole time because obviously he is but he understands everyone perfectly because he's excellent at lip reading
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Aug 28, 2022 08:42
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Julias posted:Also now that we have official confirmation of the new bounties it's time to bring this back up: Judging by everyone's numbers I think the biggest surprise to all of us ended up being Robin's massive bounty increase. The only person who was remotely close to guessing her new value also thought Ussop was going to go up to a billion. No one really guessed that Robin and Robin alone would be getting such a proportionally huge change in her bounty. I wonder what accounts for it. If we assume the Emperors are those closest to One Piece then just the fact of her being on an emperor's crew makes her a lot more dangerous, so maybe that's it. Or else they learned that Robin took out Black Maria, and therefore learned for the first time that Robin can actually kick rear end. After all, the government never heard about her last fight. Against Yama. On Skypia. So they might have only just realized the secret knowledge that can bring down the government is in the hands of someone who is actually immensely physically powerful.
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Aug 28, 2022 17:40
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Jerusalem posted:Caribou: Good news, Kaidou isn't around to stop you going for Pluton anymore! I also want to see the look on Crocodile's face if he learns that Robin learned about it back on Alabasta. Honestly I see a Cross Guild invasion of Wano as being a pretty plausible development. Not only because of the Crocodile/Caribou setup, but because of Buggy's whole character arc. Imagine: In the chaos, as all the actually competent fighters of Cross Guild are dealing with the powerful defenders of Wano, Buggy is trying to hide but accidentally falls into the drivers seat of Pluton. World-threatening antics ensue. Yamato finds Luffy at the end of the next arc: "Wano has been attacked and Pluton stolen! I need to join your crew to help you track down and stop the most dangerous person in the world: Buggy the Clown!"
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Aug 30, 2022 14:18
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BoosterDuck posted:why are you still following 4kids translation You can call them Marines if you want, I don't care, but it's by no means wrong or even 4Kids derived to call them the Navy. 
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Aug 31, 2022 18:30
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Andrast posted:...there's a difference? In One Piece the Marines are not amphibious specialists so it's a bit weird to call them Marines, but it's not like anyone's going to be confused and honestly on the balance it's probably more straightforward to call them the Marines since they plaster that word in 20 foot letters all over all their stuff. But there's also nothing wrong, and a lot pedantically right, about calling them the Navy. Eiba fucked around with this message at 19:03 on Aug 31, 2022 |
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Aug 31, 2022 19:00
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Gyges posted:I always just figured that the Organization was the Navy while the guys in uniform doing the poo poo were Marines. Which is how we have all the specialists, Cipher Pols, and weirdos that sometimes are under the Navy and sometimes outside it.
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Aug 31, 2022 22:28
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I totally forgot about Lucci heading to Wano. He still could be involved with the Sabo incident though. After all, the rest of the revolutionaries had time to get Kuma to Momoiro Island. Levely happened sometime after Luffy got to Wano, and the Strawhats were on Wano for basically a month (Full moon while half of them escaped Big Mom, full moon during the raid). By the time they left Wano the Shichibukai had been disbanded and Cross Guild had time to form and send out its fliers. So there's a lot of time there for things to have happened and Lucci to get on a boat.
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Sep 1, 2022 04:16
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ThingOne posted:Ivankov threatened to reveal some secret he knew about Crocodile during Impel Down. Which, now that I think about it, would mean he was threatening to out Crocodile Not sure how much better that makes it, but I agree that it would seem out of character for Ivankov to actually hurt someone in that way. It might be in character for Ivankov to make someone sweat about it though, especially someone like Crocodile.
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Sep 3, 2022 03:13
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MechanicalTomPetty posted:My crackpot take on this crackpot theory is that they changed their gender for some entirely pragmatic or petty reason and don't really see it as anything more than a disguise or something. The real secret is why they decided to do something like that at all - maybe he was running from the WG or maybe he was pulling a Buggy and trying to weasel their way out of a deal gone bad. Yeah, I could see that. That would be good. It'd have to be something big he was running from, not something petty at this point. I don't think he'd be worried about a bad business deal now that he has this much power and influence. I don't know how likely any of this is, but if it were true I'd like it.
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Sep 3, 2022 04:44
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I think if there were a reveal about devil fruits that the Paramythia/Zoan/Logia distinction was kind of bullshit, and they were all "special zoans" associated with ancient people/gods who just had crazy space powers or something and trapped their abilities in fruit, that would be kind of cool. Luffy's fruit would still be of special interest if the guy with the rubber powers happened to be a notorious anti-authoritarian, and that his will kind of bled through more often because of that strong drive, while most fruits only preserve the ability of their progenitor. Because Luffy is clearly made of rubber in addition to whatever else. He does not just have imagination based powers. He didn't imagine his arm would stretch that first time after he ate the fruit. It was pretty surprising.
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Sep 8, 2022 18:04
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skipmyseashells posted:if Blackbeard merked boa at that moment she woulda had two commanders and a handful of marine vice captains under her kill count. But the bit that left most of an impact on me was that Blackbeard was totally willing to kill Boa and lose his own followers for the sake of Boa's power. Blackbeard is a scheming bastard, but he's not a puppet master. A more boring manga would have the scheming villain's plans always succeed to make them seem inevitable. But that's boring, and that's not Blackbeard. He's an opportunist. He may get hosed over, but his dream will never die- he'll find some other way and keep going. I'm pretty sure every single plan we've seen Blackbeard attempt has been foiled in some way. All the way back to his first appearance- he wants to take out Luffy to earn his Shichibukai seat, and instead his ship gets destroyed. And he just laughs about it and keeps going. And of course the next major move we see him make is his assault on Impel Down where he gets utterly routed by Magellan. He thinks Whitebeard is going to kill him at one point and just shits himself, but he always makes it out on top. He's not just winging it. His successes aren't just happenstance. He has plans and he's very well informed about the world, but his real strength is seizing on every advantage as it appears and laughing off the setbacks. It was so cool to see him facing setbacks and ruthlessly improvising this chapter.
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Sep 11, 2022 06:34
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Last Celebration posted:did I miss something or is “winging it” not synonymous with “improvising”?
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Sep 11, 2022 06:54
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Julias posted:It really feels like oda's editors saw all the complaints about the last chapter of wano online, told oda as he was working on this chapter, and he decided to cram them into this chapter at the beginning. It would both explain why the Amazon lily scene feels particularly condensed, and why these bits weren't in wano proper and after the bounty reveal chapter. It's basically Oda doing damage control. Which, I appreciate. It would have been better for these scenes to be in wano itself, but it's definitely a case of better late than never, especially in salvaging Yamato's character arc a little bit. Yamato is really strong and cool, but Momonosuke needs to demonstrate himself to have development in his character arc. He tells Yamato not to intervene because we need to know Momo has grown, not to free Yamato. Note that other cool-and-strong character Kinemon was conveniently visiting his wife during the incident and also couldn't help. It was a conflict specifically to showcase the progress and growth of Momonosuke. The chapter where the Strawhats leave Yamato behind was also the chapter where they leave Momonsuke behind. That was the emotional story Oda wanted to present. We want Luffy and Momonosuke to part ways with clear hearts. Yamato gives a half-true alternate explanation to kind of sweep that issue under the rug for now so we don't need to be feeling as much doubt about Momo's growth during his emotional farewell to Luffy. Now that we have experienced that departure we can return to Yamato who is a responsible friend who wants to protect Momo's pride and the country of Wano. I'll agree that the whole thing feels like a bizarre emotional roller coaster told in the wrong order... if you only care about Yamato. But from Oda's perspective this had to be Momonosuke's story, and Yamato was only a supporting player in it. I'm obviously a bigger fan of one than the other, but I can see how Momonosuke's story is something that kind of deserves the spotlight considering how long he's been with the crew and how important he is to the world. This does make it slightly less likely that Yamato will show up in a couple arcs, and slightly more likely that he'll only join the crew for Laugh Tale itself or something, which sucks, but it also makes a lot more sense overall.
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Sep 11, 2022 19:24
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mabels big day posted:https://twitter.com/TCBScans/status/1569779493686112256?t=zt5G35IWcRm81L6y59fK5w&s=19
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Sep 13, 2022 22:10
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Youd think crocoboy would have kept his head lower then, instead of beelining to whitebeard getting his rear end kicked then becoming shichibukai I actually suggested he might be escaping royal responsibilities if Inankov was threatening to reveal his background, rather than just gender shenanigans. I would totally be on board if he was a Kuja Empress.
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Sep 14, 2022 19:48
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blizzardvizard posted:If that theory is true then the real question is who did Crocodile contract the love disease for, if anyone But yeah that's the biggest issue with the theory. Love doesn't really fit his general motivation. Unless... that other old theory is also true. Maybe as empress he encountered a certain revolutionary...
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Sep 14, 2022 20:13
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Silver2195 posted:Again, this is already debunked by Ivankov not knowing Dragon had a son.
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Sep 14, 2022 20:39
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Well, between everyone worrying about Vivi, and Bonney showing up when the last time we saw here was at Levely... maybe the next arc is going to be Mary Geoise. Or at the very least we might not end up going to that random island the Log Pose picked out. It's been so long since the Log Pose took us to a random island. We were so close! Also, it's pretty clear to me the Gorosei/Im were about to blow up that island anyway and they were calling Sabo unlucky. Whatever weapon they have seems like it needs to be in position first. My guess as to how Sabo survived (because we know he survived) was that he was just routing the call through Lulusia somehow. Maybe he even knew somehow that the island was about to be destroyed and was doing it to fake his death or something if he's terrified of Im's power or something like that. I gotta say I don't know how I feel about this new superweapon. I thought the Buster Call was incredibly cool because it was built up as a way to erase islands from history, and we were kind of meant to imagine terrifying sky lasers, but it wasn't. It was "just" a fire bombardment. It wasn't the technology that was terrifying, it was the intent. It was in part about the huge number of people the World Government had at its disposal to follow horrific orders without question. I thought that was really cool and terrifying. And now we've got the sky lasers. It almost feels redundant unless there's more going on. I guess they've cut the Navy out of the operation, which is actually a pretty big deal now that I think about it. It's weird that the Gorosei trusted the organization under Sengoku, and now that a hardliner absolutist is in charge they're taking matters more into their own hands.
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Sep 16, 2022 21:00
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So am I right in interpreting Brook's statement that he never heard of misrule/discontent in Alabasta as another out-of-touch joke? Like, Alabasta just had a full scale revolution with fighting in the streets of the capital two years ago that he wouldn't know about. The official translation makes that a bit more ambiguous because we know it did never suffer from "misrule" and it was outside forces that stoked the crisis. But there was some pretty notable discontent. I also only just caught that the next island is a winter island- I missed that in the scanlation somehow. That makes the possibility of it just coincidentally being Elbaf a lot higher. I was looking forward to a completely brand new island, but I've also been looking forward to Elbaf so that would be fine with me!
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Sep 19, 2022 17:04
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Waffleman_ posted:Robin literally asks Luffy in this chapter if he would like to be exposited to and he's like "nah" But I want to be in Robin's position! Give us the whole in-universe newspaper, Oda!
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Sep 19, 2022 18:15
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Uroge is apparently from Birka, based on his wings, which is the sky island Enel is from and also destroyed. Skypia is my favorite arc so I want that all to be relevant. No idea how it will be though. Maybe he's a refugee from that incident and will be friends with Luffy once he learns Luffy finally beat the guy up.
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Sep 20, 2022 06:35
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Yeah also no spoilers but I think it would be funny if Luffy and Chopper were just gone at this point. The crew has to deal with the Boney situation without them and they eventually reach Elbaf (or whatever island they're almost at) where Luffy and Chopper are chilling with their new giant buddies and we get to hear about how they got there. I want Luffy and Chopper to go on a buddy adventure. More of the crew needs one on one time with Luffy.
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Sep 21, 2022 23:29
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Wow. Honestly, of all the possibilities I was not prepared for that one. Though I wish the chapter title wasn't so suggestive! I was like, "wait, what, island of the future? Vegapunk?" as soon as I saw the title and the reveal in the chapter was just a confirmation. Still crazy though! Why does there have to be a break week now! Panic Restaurant posted:Holy poo poo There could be a lot of mad science poo poo going on, but that seems like the most straightforward explanation. Alternately she's just a woman and "old man" is a term of endearment/ironic nickname based on her speech patterns or something. I'm not going to be surprised if it's robot clones or something, but it could also just be what it looks like.
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Sep 23, 2022 01:22
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Waffleman_ posted:Except that people have seen Vegapunk face to face and we've been shown his lower half and he's been voiced in the anime by a man. There are probably shenanigans afoot, but it's not airtight.
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Sep 23, 2022 02:05
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Cat Machine posted:Cover story that starts with Ch447. Dr. Tsukimi builds robots who gaze at the moon with him, until one day they see an explosion on its surface that causes Tsukimi to choke on a dumpling in shock. The robots travel to the moon to get revenge on whoever caused the explosion and end up teaming up with Enel. The crazy thing about that was that the robots who go to the moon to avenge their creator find a ton of identical robots already on the moon. Where did Baldimore's technology come from?
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Sep 23, 2022 09:40
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I hope the final battle this arc is a giant robot fight where the crew works together like the Oars fight.
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Sep 23, 2022 17:47
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Smoker is really cool because he's known Luffy since near the start of his adventure and he's got a kind of respect for Luffy while still being a powerful antagonist. He's a good guy who is willing to tell his superiors to eat poo poo when they're doing something underhanded. Smoker is awesome and the reason Smoker isn't in this chapter is to have him show up in an even cooler scene later.
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Sep 25, 2022 03:24
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I did notice this time around that the shark has an 03 on its fin, like Vegapunk herself has an 02. Which is odd from any perspective. If 02 just has Vegapunk's mind for some reason, why doesn't the shark? I guess Vegapunk 02 could be a separate person who just sometimes hosts Vegapunk's personality when Vegapunk needs to get out and do something active, assuming Vegapunk is the old man we would have been led to expect. The idea would then be that all the numbers are weird and different experiments. I think the coolest thing would be if Vegapunk just happened to be a lady (trans or otherwise), but I know a whole bunch of other crazy mad science options are plausible. I think this just being Vegapunk's daughter is probably the least interesting possibility, and wouldn't really fit with the Punk 02, Punk 03 thing we've seen. Countblanc posted:so the vegapunk here isn't really talking like an old man that they apparently are in the japanese version, and also the "i'm mediocre" bit from the scanlation isn't present. i don't know anything about japanese so i can't really infer anything from that but i guess it's noteworthy
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Sep 25, 2022 18:03
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BoosterDuck posted:why did kaido not just teach his crew to use haki more instead of feeding them smile fruits since his strongest crewmates were real devil fruit users For instance if Kaido took on the Marines, he might be able to take out the admirals and such himself, but what about all the marine captains? They'd tear through normal lackeys. We saw in Enies Lobby that a bunch of random captains have devil fruit abilities. So Kaido needs something to even the odds against that tier of fighter. It's a bit counter-intuitive because shounen battles always come down to a half dozen one on one fights, but we should imagine that the rest of the battle is also important, and under ordinary circumstances when the narrative isn't following individual characters it's actually more important, with the quality of all the background fighters actually making a difference. Super Rad posted:Still crazy to me that the plot line of the Wano citizens who were poisoned by the Smile runoff and leftover fruits was completely dropped.
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Sep 26, 2022 16:39
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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:There's also small stuff like Gan Fall being a pumpkin farmer when he's not being a God/Sky-knight, He just wants to grow his pumpkins. That's such a little thing. An old man wants to grow tasty plants he enjoys. What could be more simple and bucolic than that? But those pumpkins aren't a simple thing in Skypia. They're grown from Holy Vearth, a rare and sacred material. The homeland of the Shandians was made of Vearth and it was stolen from them by the Skypians, Gan Fall's ancestors, on the basis that the Holy Vearth was something reserved for God. But Vearth is dirt. It's just dirt. But it's something that was stolen from the ancestors of the Shandians by the ancestors of the Skypians. Gan Fall has only known a world where all the Vearth was Skypian. All of it was his. He wouldn't have thought of pumpkins as the product of imperialism and ethnic cleansing. They were just tasty gourds. A pleasant fact of life that he got used to and enjoyed. But to Waipa they're a symbol of imperialism, and what was robbed from his ancestors. And he's right. All these perspectives are true. I think it is important that these perspectives on pumpkins are established first. We know they came up with the Shandians, were stolen, and this is what shapes the perspective of Gan Fall and Waipa. Blind privilege and woke rage. We establish all this first. And only then do we learn that Noland was the one who brought pumpkins to Shandora. I looked this up to be sure, and the wiki says pumpkins are sacred to Shandorans because of the Noland connection, but, while I didn't reread the whole arc, as far as I can find there's nothing in the manga I could find to support that. As far as I know that connection is only known to the readers. As far as Waipa and Gan Fall know they're just products of the stolen Vearth. But we know that there's another layer to the pumpkin. They're Gan Fall's simple pleasure. They're Waiper's robbed heritage. But on top of that they're also Noland and Calgara's friendship- material proof of what can be gained from friendly exchange. All of these things are true. Many, many chapters later we see Gan Fall sharing his pumpkin juice with the Shandorans in a cover page and I can't help but get really emotional about what it means. Pumpkins are so good.
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Funky Valentine posted:Notably one gets the sense that Oda already had the broad idea of what Big Mom looked like from the start while he tinkered with Kaidou's design constantly. Oni punks is probably a better evil theme overall, especially in the context of Wano, but I'm still curious about what Oda would come up with in that alternate world.
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