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i'm still yearning for how good psykers felt in beta, or to un-nerf assail. IDK why they hate this class so much.
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Cretin90 posted:Fair points. Swap Shred for Rev It Up 
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Apr 20, 2024 22:05
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Assail was way overtuned lmao and such a bad teaching tool while simultaneously not being good enough to use solely in Damnation, hence the stereotype of assail psykers on release. I actually think Psyker now is better than in Beta, simply for the class overhaul providing a lot more flexibility. Beta brain burst would also not hold up now imo, considering all the health pool buffs. I've actually picked Assail up for my Disrupt Destiny Gunyker and it's actually very good for that, it kills bruisers and shooters really well and gets weakspot kills so you can get bonus disrupt destiny stacks with them, and they also benefit from DD's bonuses. I'm coming around to its use case (letting you stretch out your ammo, getting you DD stacks, thinning hordes) and think it's in a pretty good spot now.
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Apr 20, 2024 22:09
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Evil Kit posted:Tbh take Shred off and slap on Rampage. Rampage's text is misleading, it's a +power bonus not just +damage. Unless you're doing some kind of crit build on zealot I guess. Bloodletter is okay so it's kinda upper-mid of a roll. Grats on the 550 though! Per Devils suggestion (which I agree with) Im going to run Rev It Up until I get a good Rampage. Devils Affricate posted:Swap Shred for Rev It Up  Let's do this!!!
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Apr 20, 2024 22:15
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I am a Rev It Up stan, it's a fantastic utility blessing and you absolutely need Rampage to pair with it lol. Rampage enables OG chainsword to manage hordes effectively. You should be fine, but you may notice an issue with dense hordes. Have fun!
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Apr 20, 2024 22:17
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Evil Kit posted:I am a Rev It Up stan, it's a fantastic utility blessing and you absolutely need Rampage to pair with it lol. Rampage enables OG chainsword to manage hordes effectively. You should be fine, but you may notice an issue with dense hordes. Have fun! That's what my 300 frags are for
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Apr 20, 2024 22:18
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Evil Kit posted:Assail was way overtuned lmao and such a bad teaching tool while simultaneously not being good enough to use solely in Damnation, hence the stereotype of assail psykers on release. I actually think Psyker now is better than in Beta, simply for the class overhaul providing a lot more flexibility. Beta brain burst would also not hold up now imo, considering all the health pool buffs. Maybe it opens up at 30, but the early levels just feel so anemic in all parts.
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Apr 20, 2024 22:44
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ijyt posted:Maybe it opens up at 30, but the early levels just feel so anemic in all parts. Absolutely, imo Zealot and Psyker both suffer the most from low levels. Zealot really comes online once you get your keystone for your build, same for Psyker. I also think Psyker is the biggest glass cannon in the game. You don't really get any burst toughness tools like the other classes so if you get overwhelmed or in a bad spot you're probably going down. You get a whole hell of a lot of damage though, and some of the best team utility in the game (dome) Evil Kit fucked around with this message at 23:21 on Apr 20, 2024 |
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Apr 20, 2024 23:19
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Cretin90 posted:What ranged weapons would you guys pair with the shovel and frag grenade for weapons specialist? How about power sword and frag grenade? I really enjoy the bolter but the swap speed is too slow for weapons specialist to be efficiency. I’m deciding between the columnus, plasma gun, and zarona. Zarona is obviously the tie in since low mag=huge payoff since wep specialist rounds up. You could also be shotgun man, but yeah i tried to see if bolter would work and gently caress that lol
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Apr 21, 2024 00:19
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ijyt posted:Maybe it opens up at 30, but the early levels just feel so anemic in all parts. Early levels are real weapon dependent since some do well regardless of blessing/stats. Think surge made the leveling less painful with psyker. Honestly after finally trying the purgatus i bet this thing wouldn’t be too bad either. Just having Instant cast stagger owns. You can also just say who gives a drat and use a columbus/agrippa braced since as guns theyre good as hell straight up lol
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The path to Auric Storm Survivor, it seems, is joining Auric Maelstrom, assessing whether this team has the juice, and ducking out when it's evident that they do not. Feels a little scummy, but man I ain't giving up this streak because you're 30+5 and think you're ready until you meet one (1) crusher.
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Apr 21, 2024 03:30
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ijyt posted:i'm still yearning for how good psykers felt in beta, or to un-nerf assail. IDK why they hate this class so much. Back in beta, I only played ogryn and veteran. What was psyker like back then? Did psykers even have assail in beta? I remember brain burst and venting shriek, but that was back before the current perk tree, when it was just a a new option every 5 levels or whatever, along three parallel skill paths.
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Apr 21, 2024 04:14
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Arc Light posted:Back in beta, I only played ogryn and veteran. What was psyker like back then? Did psykers even have assail in beta? I remember brain burst and venting shriek, but that was back before the current perk tree, when it was just a a new option every 5 levels or whatever, along three parallel skill paths. I don't think much changed between beta and initial release. Psykers only had Brain Burst and Shriek all the way up until patch 13 (talent update). Before that, there was no Assail, Smite, or Telekinetic Shield. BB felt really powerful early on because health pools were lower and lots of other weapons were underpowered in comparison. The Surge staff was oriented for crowd control, kind of working like Smite does now, then they changed it to what it is currently except overpowered because it only targeted heads, then it became its mediocre self. I think they also nerfed Purgatus at some point.
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Apr 21, 2024 04:32
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Burst was more valuable back then because before the talent trees, extra weapons and weapon reworks, being a ranged deleter was more of a specialist task and more specifically the psyker and veteran's job. You didn't have a kickback that would crush snipers etc. Also people just weren't as good yet and didn't have high quality gear yet. So like if a pox hound was coming, you were real thankful to have burst.
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Apr 21, 2024 04:41
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People mostly complained about how brainburst was weak because once you left the early difficulties and went to 5 it would no longer 1 shot many things it used to, hell needing multiple brainbursts on a poxhound or flamer or poxburster felt real bad. It eventually got buffs and it was always useful with the increased speed after ult talents. Game was very much in a pre-release state until the patch 13 talent overhaul however and until then it was radio silence with people wondering how much they would probably charge for a single class and if it would release as slowly one by one like vermintide.
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Apr 21, 2024 04:46
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Oof, yeah, now I remember all the incomplete or nonexistent elements in the beta and early game. When I got a gold MGXII with good stats as an Emperor's Blessing, I felt like I won the lottery because Hadron's shop couldn't swap perks yet. iirc there were menu buttons that were just "Coming Soon"
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Apr 21, 2024 04:49
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Evil Kit posted:
I've maxed out my weekly rewards for all of my other characters, and playing my psyker feels like the pits. I actually swapped out one of my Curios for +3 stamina just so I can dodge more, and the toughness doesn't mean jack poo poo, since even getting winged by heavy hitter just deletes your toughness. I feel like there's something about the class I'm fundamentally missing. I can do full team recoveries with Veteran, Zealot, or Ogryn, but the only time it gets to happen with Psyker is when the game just decides to stop spawning hordes.
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Nehru the Damaja posted:The path to Auric Storm Survivor, it seems, is joining Auric Maelstrom, assessing whether this team has the juice, and ducking out when it's evident that they do not. Feels a little scummy, but man I ain't giving up this streak because you're 30+5 and think you're ready until you meet one (1) crusher. So Darktide doesn't cancel your 5 streak if you alt+f4 before tangy yet delightful fucked around with this message at 05:49 on Apr 21, 2024 |
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ninjoatse.cx posted:I've maxed out my weekly rewards for all of my other characters, and playing my psyker feels like the pits. I actually swapped out one of my Curios for +3 stamina just so I can dodge more, and the toughness doesn't mean jack poo poo, since even getting winged by heavy hitter just deletes your toughness. Psyker owns, but this is definitely one of its weakest areas. It's quite hard to do the heroic comeback thing as psyker because you have very few tools for getting people up yourself. So, in my opinion, it's not the metric we should measure the class by. The psyker's job is to more to keep poo poo from reaching that point by smoothing out situations and blunting threats before they cause problems. I don't know what sorts of advice you're wanting, if any, so apologies if I'm preaching to the choir. The number one thing you can learn as psyker is how to wiggle your way around enemies while charging your staff or quelling. You can't run or jump, but you can dodge sideways or back, and you can slide out of those dodges. If you need to go forwards, you can look to the side and use a side dodge, or you can leave a tiny window between casts to start a run, immediately slide, and then charge during the slide. You can swap to your sword, push, and then immediately swap back. Use staff casts and sword swings to let your stamina and dodges recharge. And you can and should make judicial use of mini-quells and partial staff charges, especially on the purgatus. I regularly get myself surrounded by hordes full of ragers / maulers / etc. and just grit my teeth and wiggle my way to victory (because pubbies will never come save the psyker). What kind of build(s) are you running?
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megane posted:Psyker owns, but this is definitely one of its weakest areas. It's quite hard to do the heroic comeback thing as psyker because you have very few tools for getting people up yourself. So, in my opinion, it's not the metric we should measure the class by. The psyker's job is to more to keep poo poo from reaching that point by smoothing out situations and blunting threats before they cause problems. I'm a pretty terrible Psyker, but I agree with this whole-heartedly. If I'm not blowing myself up, I feel like I bring a lot of support to the team as a Psyker and as long as my teammates are decent, things usually go well. Bubble + Assail + Surge staff really does a great job of keeping things calm.
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megane posted:Psyker owns, but this is definitely one of its weakest areas. It's quite hard to do the heroic comeback thing as psyker because you have very few tools for getting people up yourself. So, in my opinion, it's not the metric we should measure the class by. The psyker's job is to more to keep poo poo from reaching that point by smoothing out situations and blunting threats before they cause problems. The Kinetic Deflection talent is key to Psyker comebacks. It shunts stamina drain into non-lethal peril gain any time you block an attack, including while rezzing someone. It's an excellent option and frequently your only option so I consider it a mandatory talent. It also interacts very favorably with stamina curios -- if you've ever seen a Psyker tank a Daemonhost seemingly forever, it's probably because he was using a combination of the two. Psyker is probably the best class in the game to deal with hordes, with some tools best for pure chaff and others better for mixed elites. I'll do a more detailed post tomorrow but the short version is that Venting Shriek's Creeping Flames node, Smite coupled with Empowered Psionics, the Illisi Force Sword, the Trauma staff and the Purgatus staff are all useful in this area. Magitek fucked around with this message at 07:39 on Apr 21, 2024 |
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ninjoatse.cx posted:I've maxed out my weekly rewards for all of my other characters, and playing my psyker feels like the pits. I actually swapped out one of my Curios for +3 stamina just so I can dodge more, and the toughness doesn't mean jack poo poo, since even getting winged by heavy hitter just deletes your toughness. trauma staff + dome shield is how it's done. dome shield makes you immune to ranged enemies and trauma staff knocks down everything in melee.
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Psyker has always been my favorite class, on top of helping the entire team's ammo economy with your limitless staff damage you got the dome to nullify 99% of dangerous situations while it's up. As mentioned trauma staff is great for being able to make a swarm of 20 crushers/ragers/bulwarks in a 100 poxwalker horde charging your group completely toothless and make it so your entire party isn't one bad dodge on a overhead crusher slam away from a failure cascade. Deimos force sword has mutant 1 shot levels of damage and bullet blocking and the dueling sword has the pskyers best overall damage and boss killing, there is also the option for good generic weapons like daggers or unlimited catachan parries too.
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tangy yet delightful posted:So Darktide doesn't cancel your 5 streak if you alt+f4 before As far as I know you can Menu -> Leave Mission while you're downed and your zero deaths steak gets preserved. Good luck hitting that fast enough when you get barreled off the map though. If you're trying to get a zero deaths penance and you join into a mission with a loner zealot rushing ahead, just leave immediately. There is no salvaging that mission. You have to fight bigger hordes and they will not try to help you.
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So do martyr skulls only give you plasteel the first time you find them and whenever you participate in someone else finding it the first time?
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ninjoatse.cx posted:I've maxed out my weekly rewards for all of my other characters, and playing my psyker feels like the pits. I actually swapped out one of my Curios for +3 stamina just so I can dodge more, and the toughness doesn't mean jack poo poo, since even getting winged by heavy hitter just deletes your toughness. Everyone else ha given good advice so the only thing I'll add is that +stamina curios do not give your more dodges or let you dodge more. Dodge charges are entirely independent of the stamina system.
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So TRS-150, in the big area where you add batteries to shut down the giant fan so you can pass through? That fan will kill you now. Even if you've shut it down. You used to be able to press against it and when you could pass through, you would. Now doing that just kills you. Lost my maelstrom streak at 3/5 that way.
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I have found my new favorite gun for Weapon Spec vet: the kantereal heavy laspistol. Holy poo poo this thing rocks. Weapon Spec gives it the extra crit it needed for Infernus to pop off, it does insane weakspot and crit damage, doesn't require ADS except for the most extreme ranges unlike the revolver, AND unlike revolver has way more shots and reloads way faster. Legit feels awesome to use, just strafing as I one tap shooters, eliminate specialists and then go back to swinging my chainaxe into the horde.
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Nehru the Damaja posted:So do martyr skulls only give you plasteel the first time you find them and whenever you participate in someone else finding it the first time? The latter, I think. I've gotten plasteel a couple of times for following the rest of my team through to a skull. Looks like you need to go through the whole process short of actually picking up the skull, ie. you need to get into whatever locked/inaccessible room houses it
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Nehru the Damaja posted:So TRS-150, in the big area where you add batteries to shut down the giant fan so you can pass through? There's also a penance now to kill 10 enemies using the fan, if you haven't noticed!
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Arc Light posted:The latter, I think. I've gotten plasteel a couple of times for following the rest of my team through to a skull. Looks like you need to go through the whole process short of actually picking up the skull, ie. you need to get into whatever locked/inaccessible room houses it I'm getting these the Ogryn way, by which I mean I unlocked one a few nights ago by heaving a nuke into a group of enemies and apparently blowing up whatever at the same time.
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Evil Kit posted:I have found my new favorite gun for Weapon Spec vet: the kantereal heavy laspistol. Holy poo poo this thing rocks. Weapon Spec gives it the extra crit it needed for Infernus to pop off, it does insane weakspot and crit damage, doesn't require ADS except for the most extreme ranges unlike the revolver, AND unlike revolver has way more shots and reloads way faster. Raking fire? Ghost? What perks - crit chance and flak?
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Probably no one but me cares but Darktide works on the steam deck again. It seems to be running better too, mostly solid 30 fps.
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Today I got launched off a cliff by a charging plague ogryn when I was at 9/10 auric missions for the penance. In horror I paused for a second, so when I hit alt-F4 to retain my progress I heard the death noise as the game closed
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these challenges sound incredibly loving stupid
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Enjoy posted:Today I got launched off a cliff by a charging plague ogryn when I was at 9/10 auric missions for the penance. In horror I paused for a second, so when I hit alt-F4 to retain my progress I heard the death noise as the game closed lmfao
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victrix posted:these challenges sound incredibly loving stupid most are fine
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