MikeJF posted:

I'm vaguely reminded of Linux Biolinum, designed to be a sans-serif counterpart shown alongside Linux Libertine (an open source Times New Roman replacement font). Libertine and Biolinum:

MikeJF posted:

I'm vaguely reminded of Linux Biolinum, designed to be a sans-serif counterpart shown alongside Linux Libertine (an open source Times New Roman replacement font). Libertine and Biolinum:

AFewBricksShy posted:

I've seen the Quick Brown Fox many times, that's the first time I've seen the Sphinx one. It's way cooler and should become the standard from here on out.

quote:

"Waltz, bad nymph, for quick jigs vex." (28 letters)
"Glib jocks quiz nymph to vex dwarf." (28 letters)
"Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow." (29 letters)
"How quickly daft jumping zebras vex!" (30 letters)
"The five boxing wizards jump quickly." (31 letters)
"Jackdaws love my big sphinx of quartz." (31 letters)
"Pack my box with five dozen liquor jugs." (32 letters)

MokBa posted:

If you just want a very classic serif, use Garamond instead. One of my general rules-of-thumb is to never ever use any of the 90s default Windows fonts. They were all designed for legibility on a low-res screen which is no longer an issue, and they carry a lot of baggage that makes them look cheap.

Personally, I think if you want to separate the two voices, your best bet, as suggested above, is to pick a serif and sans serif that look good together. Unfortunately, that will make it look less like the Little Red Book, but it’s essentially the only way to do it where neither looks more important than the other.

aniviron posted:

As you are doubtless aware Times has a storied history which well predates its inclusion in win 95; but I do feel that you are correct about the baggage. Go out in public without seeing Impact; Challenge level: Impossible.

As far as classic serif fonts go that aren't Times, I also agree here, it's hard to go wrong with Garamond. There's even an open source version which has some wonderful features. I've also become quite taken with Ashbury lately for similar purposes.

nielsm posted:

Mescal posted:

illegal move

Deep Glove Bruno posted:

Thanks all for the suggestions. I'll look into serif and sans suggestions, Museo etc. for sure. I am finding italics does suggest one writer is the exception.

To give you guys more information, because it's funny how serious about readability and how helpful you've all been when it's such a ridiculous, stupid project:

- It's for custom publishing into book form I will distribute to a handful of family members
- I've used Times New Roman thus far because it's closest my untrained eye could find to the typeface of the English edition of Quotations From Chairman Mao
- This is because I intend it to closely resemble the little red book in every way (I'm trying to track down Lin Piao to do some calligraphy for the frontispiece but he's been a hard man to find since his mysterious disappearance when he conspired to overthrow Mao)
- the content is a giant, giant list of thousands of dumbass gibberish phrases, inside jokes, fake band names etc my cousin and I have been sending each other tranches of for 25 years, since we were early teens. He wants our contributions to be distinguishable in some way, and I want it to be as smooth-reading as possible. They are mostly not full sentences, but they aren't all really short phrases. Some will be long enough to wrap and indent into a second line and such.

If TNR sucks, I'm open to suggestions of fonts better than it but that can still fit the feel/era of the little red book as you see in the scan. I'd like to balance accuracy to the red book (which is 90% down to the size and the execution of the cover by the bookbinder, really) and readability with the two types of writing alternating.

Now don't you feel like saps for helping with such a stupid idea? Sorry.

Powered Descent posted:

Honestly you might be better off just having one "voice" indented more than the other. Maybe with a small image/avatar/whatever-to-call-it in the left margin to help distinguish them.

Carthag Tuek posted:

or left/right aligned with a bit narrower margin on the opposite side so they never reach the full width

Powered Descent posted:

Honestly you might be better off just having one "voice" indented more than the other. Maybe with a small image/avatar/whatever-to-call-it in the left margin to help distinguish them.

MokBa posted:

I know this is getting further away from the Little Red Book vibe, but you could consider Mrs Eaves (serif) and Mr Eaves (sans serif). The letters have similar heights and widths and are meant to pair well together, and they are both very legible body fonts.



They also both have an “XL” version with a larger x-height, since the default one is pretty low.

Deep Glove Bruno posted:

Thought about that, but the 15cm by 10cm format means indenting and margins can get pretty tricky. Some list entries already wrap to an indented second (and on) line so it starts to look messy. But maybe doable with a tiny indent...

As for L/R alignment, it looks way better in the example posted than in a list where the majority of entries are a single line. So we're not generally talking about alternating paragraphs. A one-line phrase aligned right just doesn't feel right as a list entry, it seems like a list needs aligned starting points.

Will experiment with Garamond Monotype, thanks for the correction.

We're getting close I think! Thanks again to the font deviants who have posted.

aniviron posted:

It does depend a bit on the use case for the type; for something like Berkley up there, it makes a lot of sense to do that, it's critical to recognize every character precisely & quickly, especially when it's likely that what you are reading is not natural language. For most type though, you see the word 'language' and don't assume I typed 1anguage there, your brain is pretty good at filling that in. Instead, a lot of other type will show off characteristic features that tend to vary even between similar type, like the lower case g which can take on quite a few forms.

Carthag Tuek posted:

(tbh mybiggest worry abt this project is avoiding either party being obviously secondary; haha gently caress you cousin i stole your ideas or vice versa)

Deep Glove Bruno posted:

i mean yeah you better believe his rear end is the one going right aligned or italics or whatever. i'm the one putting the poo poo together. i just needed some good faith experimentation with other methods.

i'm telling you though, a list of single line length text phrases resolved right is v difficult to read cause the start points aren't aligned, the ends are, so even if the whole thing were right aligned and not even alternating, it'd be a worse reading experience. wait till the arabic edition.

Woebin posted:

I think OpenOffice pretty much got superseded by LibreOffice, didn't it?

Deep Glove Bruno posted:

i gave it a quick try when i first got into the footnote bullshit but it seemed to have the same issue. if you're saying LO is more up to date i'll give it another go

burexas.irom posted:

I'm stupid and need help. I swore I saw a font in this thread that was like a quirky gothic, the "g" character looked something like this:



But I can't find it. Anyone know what I'm talking about?