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xbilkis
Apr 11, 2005

god qb
me
jay hova
Honestly, on paper based on the events of the night, the most logical outcome would be that they're having Sami win a Mania title shot at Elimination Chamber against Roman, and also somehow splitting the WWE title off Roman so Cody can fight for that belt at Mania in a story that has nothing to do with Roman. Because man, trying to introduce Cody into the Bloodline story right now is such a long walk when you can just go for the tap-in with Sami

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Charity Porno
Aug 2, 2021

by Hand Knit

Do not even ask posted:

people really twisting themselves out of shape and making poo poo up to hate wwe's product

It's tiresome, there's so much actually bad about the product to hate too

WrasslorMonkey
Mar 5, 2012

Do not even ask posted:

people really twisting themselves out of shape and making poo poo up to hate wwe's product

lmao

Optimist with doubt
May 16, 2010

Scoop Lover

:vince:

he knows...

MJeff posted:

Roman is a genuinely godawful actor, and that all took way too long but neither of those things were enough to ruin the segment, which was pretty loving good and clearly resonated strongly with their audience.

What is enough to ruin the segment is that NOBODY IN IT IS CHALLENGING ROMAN AT WRESTLEMANIA

WHAT THE gently caress.

WHY IS THE DUDE WHO HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS STORY THE ONE GETTING THE TITLE SHOT?

There are two titles m8. Clearly the plan is to take one if not both off Roman at mania and go back to having a title per show.

Pylons
Mar 16, 2009

Do not even ask posted:

people really twisting themselves out of shape and making poo poo up to hate wwe's product

lol

surf rock
Aug 12, 2007

We need more women in STEM, and by that, I mean skateboarding, television, esports, and magic.

Rick posted:

I kind of am thinking they were going to go with Roman defending the title on two nights, maybe losing to Cody night one and beating Sami on night two although who knows.

E: by that I mean at Wrestlemania and thus splitting the world titles.

I think the reverse will happen; Roman beats Cody on night one (maybe through some shenanigans) and loses to Sami (and thus has a plausible excuse from being exhausted) on night two.

Sami's going to win the title. It'll be a short reign like Kofi, but it's going to happen.

stab
Feb 12, 2003

To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high
Still lolling at the GI JAN 6TH joke from earlier in the thread bless

snoremac
Jul 27, 2012

I LOVE SEEING DEAD BABIES ON 𝕏, THE EVERYTHING APP. IT'S WORTH IT FOR THE FOLLOWING TAB.

xbilkis posted:

Honestly, on paper based on the events of the night, the most logical outcome would be that they're having Sami win a Mania title shot at Elimination Chamber against Roman, and also somehow splitting the WWE title off Roman so Cody can fight for that belt at Mania in a story that has nothing to do with Roman. Because man, trying to introduce Cody into the Bloodline story right now is such a long walk when you can just go for the tap-in with Sami
The cloud hanging over this thing is Sami being relegated to a tag match against the Usos while Cody versus Roman, but it's better if Cody vs Roman than Roman vs Brock, Goldberg, Rock or someone like that.

FullMetalJackoff
Feb 15, 2004

Waluigi want his fucking Amiibo
Rhea lasted the entire rumble. You know who else did that?
That's right! Chris Benoit Rey Mysterio!
Long. Term. Booking. via pure coincidence
Cope harder, aewailures :smug:

Professor Funk
Aug 4, 2008

WE ALL KNOW WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN

surf rock posted:

I think the reverse will happen; Roman beats Cody on night one (maybe through some shenanigans) and loses to Sami (and thus has a plausible excuse from being exhausted) on night two.

Sami's going to win the title. It'll be a short reign like Kofi, but it's going to happen.

Sure seems like they’re setting up Roman to lose twice! The whole point of this storyline is the downfall. Cody is winning the WWE title night 1 and then Sami is winning night 2.

Edit: lmao the avatar

born on a buy you
Aug 14, 2005

Odd Fullback
Bird Gang
Sack Them All
The only ending that would be better imo was Sami braining reigns with the chair and then being beaten down. But chair shots to the head shouldn’t happen anymore so this was next best

Edit: lmao at this title

Ringo Roadagain
Mar 27, 2010

imagine if sting dropped down from the rafters, hit hogan with a bat, then dropped the bat and tried to beg off the rest of the nwo. he would look like the biggest moron of all time. and thats what sami looked like.

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

WELL THAT JUST HAPPENED!

MJeff posted:

Roman is a genuinely godawful actor, and that all took way too long but neither of those things were enough to ruin the segment, which was pretty loving good and clearly resonated strongly with their audience.

What is enough to ruin the segment is that NOBODY IN IT IS CHALLENGING ROMAN AT WRESTLEMANIA

WHAT THE gently caress.

WHY IS THE DUDE WHO HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS STORY THE ONE GETTING THE TITLE SHOT?

wrestling is for dumb babbys like you and me

Rick
Feb 23, 2004
When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

xbilkis posted:

Honestly, on paper based on the events of the night, the most logical outcome would be that they're having Sami win a Mania title shot at Elimination Chamber against Roman, and also somehow splitting the WWE title off Roman so Cody can fight for that belt at Mania in a story that has nothing to do with Roman. Because man, trying to introduce Cody into the Bloodline story right now is such a long walk when you can just go for the tap-in with Sami

Yeah they got 3 months so they could do this. Only problem is that Cody's only feud in the company is against Seth and I don't want to see that again.

surf rock posted:

I think the reverse will happen; Roman beats Cody on night one (maybe through some shenanigans) and loses to Sami (and thus has a plausible excuse from being exhausted) on night two.

Sami's going to win the title. It'll be a short reign like Kofi, but it's going to happen.

I hope you're right.

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

Charity Porno posted:

He literally ate a 5 count.

They make Roman look weak all the time, he just overcomes it through tricks and deceit, you know heel poo poo

Every time there’s any moment like that, he ends the night with the upper hand, like tonight.

I get that he’s a heel but they’ve been talking about doing Sami-Roman at EC for a while and if that’s the direction you’re headed, it makes no sense to not give tonight to Sami.

It only helps Roman, too. The Bloodline is very close to jumping into “go away” heat with all the fuckery and giving the crowd their moment with Sami helps them stay on the right side of that.

Dr Dunkaroos
Jan 29, 2023

Professor Funk posted:

Sure seems like they’re setting up Roman to lose twice! The whole point of this storyline is the downfall. Cody is winning the WWE title night 1 and then Sami is winning night 2.

Edit: lmao the avatar

yea if they actually go with the obvious route of this being the fall of Roman (tee hee) and he gets his rear end beat in Wrestlemania twice because he's lost his tribe due to his heel bullshit I'll happily admit I was a dumb kneejerk moron and should have Trusted The Plan

Professor Funk
Aug 4, 2008

WE ALL KNOW WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN

sportsgenius86 posted:

Every time there’s any moment like that, he ends the night with the upper hand, like tonight.

I get that he’s a heel but they’ve been talking about doing Sami-Roman at EC for a while and if that’s the direction you’re headed, it makes no sense to not give tonight to Sami.

It only helps Roman, too. The Bloodline is very close to jumping into “go away” heat with all the fuckery and giving the crowd their moment with Sami helps them stay on the right side of that.

Lmao

Digital Jedi
May 28, 2007

Fallen Rib

surf rock posted:

Sami's going to win the title. It'll be a short reign like Kofi, but it's going to happen.

If it happens, I fully expect a short reign. For Sami I think the moment of winning is the key point

Also, keep in mind that a Saudi show will probably be a few after Mania and no way Sami goes to that. And I can't think the Saudi's wouldn't want the titles being defended on their show.

motherbox
Jul 19, 2013

surf rock posted:

I think the reverse will happen; Roman beats Cody on night one (maybe through some shenanigans) and loses to Sami (and thus has a plausible excuse from being exhausted) on night two.

Sami's going to win the title. It'll be a short reign like Kofi, but it's going to happen.

Honestly, given the obvious problem of “can’t have Sami be the top guy going into the Saudi show,” would almost make more sense to have Sami win night one and lose to Cody night two.

To keep it fair, Cody has to have a match the first night. Roman, under the assumption he’s gonna be defending against Cody, calls in a favor to Seth and has him kick the poo poo out of Cody with Cody barely pulling out the win. Night 2 is the two most over faces in the company reprising Shinsuke’s NXT debut.

Jk Dwayne’s coming.

Dr Dunkaroos
Jan 29, 2023

Digital Jedi posted:

If it happens, I fully expect a short reign. For Sami I think the moment of winning is the key point

Also, keep in mind that a Saudi show will probably be a few after Mania and no way Sami goes to that. And I can't think the Saudi's wouldn't want the titles being defended on their show.

yea Sami can afford to be a short champ, just him winning off Roman cleanly enough would be his big win, he can drop it in time for Vince to get his sweet sweet Saudi money and it'll be fine

Charity Porno
Aug 2, 2021

by Hand Knit

sportsgenius86 posted:

Every time there’s any moment like that, he ends the night with the upper hand, like tonight.

Wait are you saying the heel WINS through his trickery? gently caress.

quote:

The Bloodline is very close to jumping into “go away” heat with all the fuckery and giving the crowd their moment with Sami helps them stay on the right side of that.

I don't know where you're getting this, The Bloodline is the one consistent thing the fans are into.

Ringo Roadagain
Mar 27, 2010

guys, you just dont get it, tonight in front of 43k people who were loving BEGGING for it wasnt the night to have Sami lay them all the gently caress out.

Professor Funk
Aug 4, 2008

WE ALL KNOW WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN

Charity Porno posted:

I don't know where you're getting this, The Bloodline is the one consistent thing the fans are into.

He’s making it up. It has no basis in reality.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

THE LIAR

Do not even ask posted:

people really twisting themselves out of shape and making poo poo up to hate wwe's product

They accidentally told a really good story while intentionally locking themselves out of giving it a satisfying conclusion. It is maddening, good sir. Maddening!!!!!!!!

Optimist with doubt
May 16, 2010

Scoop Lover

:vince:

he knows...
I forgot about the wwe hate cycle post show :roflolmao: shine on you passionate m8s. Back to my cycle of reading results and watching youtube clips till mania

Pylons
Mar 16, 2009

People can not be Into the Bloodline thing and that's okay.

That DICK!
Sep 28, 2010

Stand Up For WWE

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc
Cody is such a massive dork

Charity Porno
Aug 2, 2021

by Hand Knit

That DICK! posted:

Stand Up For WWE

No thanks

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc
Good question Nick, Cody will definitely not answer that honestly.

Rick
Feb 23, 2004
When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

MJeff posted:

They accidentally told a really good story while intentionally locking themselves out of giving it a satisfying conclusion. It is maddening, good sir. Maddening!!!!!!!!

If it really ends with just a 3-man tag match at at the February PPV and never mentioned again, then I'll agree with you. If it ends up with Sami wrestling at Wrestlemania though then I disagree.

El Generico
Feb 3, 2009

Birds revere you and consider you one of their own.

You are welcome in their holy places.
I attribute the goodness of this storyline entirely to Sami Zayn (obviously).

xbilkis
Apr 11, 2005

god qb
me
jay hova

Ringo Roadagain posted:

guys, you just dont get it, tonight in front of 43k people who were loving BEGGING for it wasnt the night to have Sami lay them all the gently caress out.

I mean, the night is at WrestleMania, the even bigger show and the actual end of the story. The question is whether they actually go through with it

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

Sir Tonk posted:

Cody is such a massive dork

ya it rules

Ringo Roadagain
Mar 27, 2010

xbilkis posted:

I mean, the night is at WrestleMania, the even bigger show and the actual end of the story. The question is whether they actually go through with it

thats the night when you have a match, not an angle

xbilkis
Apr 11, 2005

god qb
me
jay hova
The only reason I'm not in the "they're not going to pay this off well enough" camp is that Sami/KO vs. Usos as the endgame makes basically no sense after the events of the past week, and if that's not what the payoff for this story is I can't imagine they'd do something lesser.

It's possible they just completely botch having a satisfying payoff, and it's possible they try to square peg/round hole the tag team storyline, but it's just really hard to imagine. Which leaves "Sami's actually getting a Mania match somehow" as a conclusion still in play, even if it's kind of hard to imagine that too

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

THE LIAR

Rick posted:

If it really ends with just a 3-man tag match at at the February PPV and never mentioned again, then I'll agree with you. If it ends up with Sami wrestling at Wrestlemania though then I disagree.

Sami and KO wrestling the Usos at Mania would feel like such an anti-climax.

Sami wrestling (and beating) Roman at Mania would be the satisfying, correct conclusion, but like....man, what convoluted goofery do you do to get there that you couldn't just accomplish by doing this angle and then having Sami win the Rumble?

SalTheBard
Jan 26, 2005

I forgot to post my food for USPOL Thanksgiving but that's okay too!

Fallen Rib

El Generico posted:

I attribute the goodness of this storyline entirely to Sami Zayn (obviously).

I was telling a friend tonight "I think if Sami was not involved in this story line I would be totally over Roman and the Bloodline by now, Sami has made this story loving awesome." and I'm interested to see where it goes. I want to watch Raw tomorrow and I haven't felt that way in years.

EDIT: What the gently caress, I have a new avatar O_o

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004
I just hate getting too violent for wrestling story shifts

It only works if you've established that a wrestler is a stickler for the rules and there's violent poo poo they won't do or they really deeply care about the well being of the person being potentially injured

Neither describes why Sami stepped in tonight well after Kevin Owen had his neck snapped in two by a kicked chair

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post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

SalTheBard posted:

I was telling a friend tonight "I think if Sami was not involved in this story line I would be totally over Roman and the Bloodline by now, Sami has made this story loving awesome." and I'm interested to see where it goes. I want to watch Raw tomorrow and I haven't felt that way in years.

i might be wrong but my sense is that that is a pretty universal opinion at this point

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