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SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

WELL THAT JUST HAPPENED!

Sami is going to get the Zach Ryder treatment.

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Charity Porno
Aug 2, 2021

by Hand Knit
Jey and Sami are probably going to start a splinter faction, this is the start of a storyline, not the end

SalTheBard
Jan 26, 2005

I forgot to post my food for USPOL Thanksgiving but that's okay too!

Fallen Rib

post hole digger posted:

i might be wrong but my sense is that that is a pretty universal opinion at this point

Oh yeah I don't think I was issuing a hot take or anything.

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

the post match stuff took too long but im still thinking about it and coming on here to read posts about it, so its hard for me to say it wasnt good.

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

i get why they let it build though, and not having commentary say anything added to it too

Hirez
Feb 3, 2003

Weber scored 49 points?

:allears: :allears: :allears:
lol Cody is terrible at ranking wrestlers

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

Charity Porno posted:

I don't know where you're getting this, The Bloodline is the one consistent thing the fans are into.

The entirety of it being over has been for this moment and the moment came and they had the guy swing a chair once and then apologize before getting the poo poo beaten out of him.

Dr. Mantis Toboggan
May 5, 2003

I want Sami to win the title and then shoot refuse to drop it before the Saudi show

Charity Porno
Aug 2, 2021

by Hand Knit

sportsgenius86 posted:

The entirety of it being over has been for this moment and the moment came and they had the guy swing a chair once and then apologize before getting the poo poo beaten out of him.

Sami Zayn is the wily guy who wins through guile and cunning, he was never going to take on multiple members if thr Bloodline at once and no one who knows what his character is would have expected that.

Rick
Feb 23, 2004
When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

MJeff posted:

Sami and KO wrestling the Usos at Mania would feel like such an anti-climax.

Sami wrestling (and beating) Roman at Mania would be the satisfying, correct conclusion, but like....man, what convoluted goofery do you do to get there that you couldn't just accomplish by doing this angle and then having Sami win the Rumble?

I can agree with that; I think Sami winning the Rumble would have definitely been a better story and Cody definitely doesn't need it as much to justify his place at Wrestlemania.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

THE LIAR

sportsgenius86 posted:

The entirety of it being over has been for this moment and the moment came and they had the guy swing a chair once and then apologize before getting the poo poo beaten out of him.

If Sami isn't beating Roman for the title, then this is pretty fuckin' egregious too, because that was Sami's one chance to meaningfully stand tall over the Bloodline at all.

Intruder
Mar 5, 2003

I got a taste for blown saves
Cody coming out at 30 even though they promoted that he'd be returning at the Rumble for a month was the dumbest thing

Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

sportsgenius86 posted:

The entirety of it being over has been for this moment and the moment came and they had the guy swing a chair once and then apologize before getting the poo poo beaten out of him.

Sami attacking the Usos, who have mostly stuck up for him and been on his side, would have been a lovely thing for him to do. Hitting Roman and then trying to explain to the Usos why, and then having him get attacked makes him more sympathetic and clearly a babyface.

1glitch0
Sep 4, 2018

I DON'T GIVE A CRAP WHAT SHE BELIEVES THE HARRY POTTER BOOKS CHANGED MY LIFE #HUFFLEPUFF
Full disclosure: I kinda zoned out when Rey's music hit and didn't notice he hadn't come out until Dom came out with his mask.

El Generico
Feb 3, 2009

Birds revere you and consider you one of their own.

You are welcome in their holy places.

Codependent Poster posted:

Sami attacking the Usos, who have mostly stuck up for him and been on his side, would have been a lovely thing for him to do. Hitting Roman and then trying to explain to the Usos why, and then having him get attacked makes him more sympathetic and clearly a babyface.

I'm guessing we get KO, Jey, and Sami vs. Roman, Solo, and Jimmy at EC, The Bloodline falls apart more, Team Sami gets the win, and that justifies the WM title match.

Charity Porno
Aug 2, 2021

by Hand Knit

Codependent Poster posted:

Sami attacking the Usos, who have mostly stuck up for him and been on his side, would have been a lovely thing for him to do. Hitting Roman and then trying to explain to the Usos why, and then having him get attacked makes him more sympathetic and clearly a babyface.

It's also exposed the first crack in the Bloodline. If Jey is now doubting, which he has since Roman beat him in the beginning, he can get to Jimmy. Like I said, it's starting up a new story and there's no version of Ssmi Zayn's current character that Hulks out and takes out the entire Bloodline

SalTheBard
Jan 26, 2005

I forgot to post my food for USPOL Thanksgiving but that's okay too!

Fallen Rib

El Generico posted:

I'm guessing we get KO, Jey, and Sami vs. Roman, Solo, and Jimmy at EC, The Bloodline falls apart more, Team Sami gets the win, and that justifies the WM title match.

That makes a ton of sense. I could totally see that happening.

Davros1
Jul 19, 2007

You've got to admit, you are kind of implausible



Instead of doing "Roman defends one title over two nights", they do it as a triple threat on the second night (Roman, Sami, and Cody) with both belts on the line, with two falls (ala Jericho, Angle, and Benoit). Then they have Sami and Cody pin each other so Roman never gets pinned and both belts are split.


And then later Roman wins them back because WWE is still desperate for a Roman/Rock match.

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

sportsgenius86 posted:

The entirety of it being over has been for this moment and the moment came and they had the guy swing a chair once and then apologize before getting the poo poo beaten out of him.

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

sami zayn looks sick and frail. not going to act silly or make any jokes about it. i hope he isn't hiding anything the way vince isn't even hiding that he's back. vince is, for sure, back. he isn't even pretending he's still gone. the information came out a while back.

Ringo Roadagain
Mar 27, 2010

Codependent Poster posted:

Sami attacking the Usos, who have mostly stuck up for him and been on his side, would have been a lovely thing for him to do. Hitting Roman and then trying to explain to the Usos why, and then having him get attacked makes him more sympathetic and clearly a babyface.

it makes him look like the stupidest motherfucker on the planet.

Kvlt!
May 19, 2012



Sami, KO and Jay start the Friendline

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

WELL THAT JUST HAPPENED!

Sami isn't even going to get a title shot out of this

El Generico
Feb 3, 2009

Birds revere you and consider you one of their own.

You are welcome in their holy places.
Someone elsewhere pointed out that it was the exact same chairshot to the back spot as when Seth betrayed the Shield. I don't know if anyone pointed that out here I only just started reading the thread. If it has, then sorry, if it hasn't, well now I pointed it out

Dr Dunkaroos
Jan 29, 2023

El Generico posted:

I'm guessing we get KO, Jey, and Sami vs. Roman, Solo, and Jimmy at EC, The Bloodline falls apart more, Team Sami gets the win, and that justifies the WM title match.

yea seems like the easiest route to go for this, nice and even split now means we can get some classic 3 v 3 shenanigans that ends with the 'leaders' squaring off at WM

Professor Funk
Aug 4, 2008

WE ALL KNOW WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN

sportsgenius86 posted:

The entirety of it being over has been for this moment and the moment came and they had the guy swing a chair once and then apologize before getting the poo poo beaten out of him.

I’m thankful you don’t book the shows

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

El Generico posted:

Someone elsewhere pointed out that it was the exact same chairshot to the back spot as when Seth betrayed the Shield. I don't know if anyone pointed that out here I only just started reading the thread. If it has, then sorry, if it hasn't, well now I pointed it out

it wasn't the exact same chairshot. I'm so sorry

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

did anyone else laugh extremely hard for about 5 minutes straight at nikki cross going full tilt robert patrick as the t1000 sprint to the ring

Dr Dunkaroos
Jan 29, 2023

SirPhoebos posted:

Sami isn't even going to get a title shot out of this

I'm pretty loudly on the 'this was a dumb way to do this' side but even I don't think WWE is THAT poo poo at writing. Sami's the victim of Roman's sadism, even the biggest hack in the writer's room knows the payoff for that is getting a title match with your abuser.

Now the question is if they actually let Roman get his karma and drop the title as the nice bookend to all this, or if Sami's going to get buried so some other good guy can be the REAL hero. THAT'S where the hack check is.

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

Cavauro posted:

it wasn't the exact same chairshot. I'm so sorry

same chair and everything.

Nairbo
Jan 2, 2005

El Generico posted:

I'm guessing we get KO, Jey, and Sami vs. Roman, Solo, and Jimmy at EC, The Bloodline falls apart more, Team Sami gets the win, and that justifies the WM title match.

Can’t enter Canada with a DUI

Rick
Feb 23, 2004
When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Alaois posted:

did anyone else laugh extremely hard for about 5 minutes straight at nikki cross going full tilt robert patrick as the t1000 sprint to the ring

There were so many commercials during Lakers/Celtics that I was still able to watch like 80% of the woman's rumble but I unfortunately missed this good thing.

Blasmeister
Jan 15, 2012




2Time TRP Sack Race Champion

The storyline is great and I’m ok with not knowing exactly what match is going to happen when. Roman is going to destroy his own empire and lose all his titles because of his inability to stop pushing Sami and just trust, and however long that takes to happen I’ll be ok with cause it’s all been good so far.

Starmaking performance from Gunther tonight too btw, if having the WWE moty wasn’t enough.

Blasmeister fucked around with this message at 07:40 on Jan 29, 2023

Intruder
Mar 5, 2003

I got a taste for blown saves
Brock falling on his rear end was good too

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
Thinks It's All Real

Alaois posted:

did anyone else laugh extremely hard for about 5 minutes straight at nikki cross going full tilt robert patrick as the t1000 sprint to the ring

It reminded me more of WWE Wrestlemania 2000 on N64 where they would just run full force down that short entrance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dYuRXj-ksg&t=193s

TV Zombie
Sep 6, 2011

Burying all the trauma from past nights
Burying my anger in the past

xbilkis posted:

Lol I just realized that JONAH wasn't even in the Rumble

Huh. He only had one appearance as Miz's heavy right?

Veryslightlymad
Jun 3, 2007

I fight with
my brain
and with an
underlying
hatred of the
Erebonian
Noble Faction
I dunno where else to put this, but the WWE desperately needs to kill the iron man thing in rumbles for like, three or four years. At least three years.

It's got to be the single most overdone angle in wrestling, which is an entire business built on stale angles. It's not cool or impressive anymore. It no longer showcases a talent. It's rear end and it makes them and the rest of your roster also look like rear end. It's hard to be impressed with something when it's not even a feat anymore. It should be a rare achievement, but instead it's a foregone conclusion and it's boring and reductive.

When you have a wrestler in both rumbles go from 1 to the end, either winning or coming this close it doesn't actually tell me you have faith in them, at this point. It tells me you need to put more shine on them, which ends up just making them look bad. Especially when it's not an unexpected wrestler.

wicka
Jun 28, 2007


It can be fine if they showcase someone actually doing stuff for an hour but instead you just end up with Gunther and Rhea napping in the corner

NienNunb
Feb 15, 2012

I like the Bloodline story I think they handle it very well for the most part

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D.N. Nation
Feb 1, 2012

I enjoyed the show. Put a smile on my face. That said,

- Anything Roman-related just goes on way too long.
- "I dunno where else to put this, but the WWE desperately needs to kill the iron man thing in rumbles for like, three or four years. At least three years." This. The WALTER stuff at the beginning and end were great, but everything else was just passing time. (The Drew/Sheamus eliminations just seemed obligatory, "we're at the 45-minute mark, time to have some guys leave.") I don't remember a single thing Edge did in 2021. Etc.
- If you write down the women's Rumble booking – there's literally 12 people still in the ring after the 30th entrant's botched entrance – it sounds like an all-time bad match, but I had fun. Some low-carders were in there for far, far, far too long though.
- Just, lol Nia Jax.

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