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Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

Cpt_Obvious posted:

Can't get past the paywall on the phone, but sounds hilarious.

https://archive.is/8svZ8

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The Atomic Man-Boy
Jul 23, 2007

Can the CIA coup aaaaall these governments?

JAY ZERO SUM GAME
Oct 18, 2005

Walter.
I know you know how to do this.
Get up.


we're gonna find out

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010



Lula making it sound like the BRIC are going ahead and make their own currency

Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017



Has anyone said deez-dollarisations yet?

Kaveman
Jul 25, 2009

NEVER!!!


wet wet wet
she the wetest in the building
looks like a million dollars tho

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY
Working towards this

Cuttlefush
Jan 15, 2014

Gleichheit soll gedeihen
im almost compltely de-dollared. doing my part

Yadoppsi
May 10, 2009
The grocery store has helped complete my de-dollarization. Doing my part.

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:
wife de-dollared my wallet on her way out of the house ah-hyuck!

The Atomic Man-Boy
Jul 23, 2007

Cuttlefush posted:

im almost compltely de-dollared. doing my part

guidoanselmi
Feb 6, 2008

I thought my ideas were so clear. I wanted to make an honest post. No lies whatsoever.

this wouldnt ever happen if ron paul was president

Lpzie
Nov 20, 2006

perfect the right thread for me... ive been preaching in the econ thread (very successfully too) that Americans should take all their money, go to a foreign country, and dump it all.... one of the best ways to destroy America.... we should discuss where down counties are the prime targets for this obviously but in a pinch pick any you want to see and do the dump there....

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*
https://files.catbox.moe/eahjn3.mp4

Kal-L
Jan 18, 2005

Heh... Spider-man... Web searches... That's funny. I should've trademarked that one. Could've made a mint.

Lpzie posted:

perfect the right thread for me... ive been preaching in the econ thread (very successfully too) that Americans should take all their money, go to a foreign country, and dump it all.... one of the best ways to destroy America.... we should discuss where down counties are the prime targets for this obviously but in a pinch pick any you want to see and do the dump there....

Come to Mexico and give me all your unwanted US dollars. I'll give them a good home.

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*
Bangladesh finds way to pay Russia for nuclear plant: with yuan

quote:

DHAKA -- Bangladesh appears to have found a workaround for stalled payments it owes Russia for a nuclear power plant: settling them in Chinese yuan.

With U.S. and European sanctions barring Russia from much of the international banking system, Dhaka has been scrambling for ways to settle repayments worth $110 million for the still under construction Rooppur power plant. But last week, a high-level delegation from Russia and Bangladesh's Ministry of Finance agreed that the bills could be paid in yuan.

Uttam Kumar Karmaker, additional secretary of the ministry's Economic Relations Division (ERD), told Nikkei Asia that repaying Moscow in China's currency appeared to be the most viable option under the present circumstances. The sanctions went up in response to Russia's war in Ukraine.

"Because of the sanctions against Russian banks," Karmaker said, "we couldn't process payments in U.S. dollars. Russia asked us to settle the payments in their currency, rubles, but that was not feasible. So we both opted for yuan."

Rooppur, when completed, will be capable of generating 2,400 megawatts of power. It is to be a crucial element of Bangladesh's plans to generate more energy and reduce its reliance on coal. The new arrangement, which should help ensure the project moves forward, comes amid growing calls from Global South nations and others to move away from the dollar and reduce the dominance of Western-led financial institutions.

Under the pact, Bangladesh will resolve payments with Russia via a Chinese bank, likely drawing on Dhaka's own reserves of yuan. Russian beneficiaries will receive funds through China's Cross-Border Interbank Payment System (CIPS), a yuan-driven alternative to the dollar-dominated SWIFT system.

SWIFT, a secure messaging platform that facilitates cross-border payments, still dwarfs CIPS. With 11,000 members, SWIFT transfers 50 million messages a day, enabling $5 trillion in trade, while CIPS, with 1,280 members, handles 15,000 messages, according to media reports.

The decision to block some Russian banks' SWIFT access, however, appears to have opened a door for China to promote its alternative. And the world's second-largest economy has found an eager partner in Russia, one of the world's top energy exporters.

In late March, during a three-day bilateral summit with Chinese President Xi Jinping, Russian President Vladimir Putin said, "We are in favor of using the Chinese yuan for settlements between Russia and the countries of Asia, Africa and Latin America."

For Bangladesh, China is the No. 1 trading partner, sharing over 17% of the South Asian nation's annual volume. Russia, meanwhile, is building as well as funding over 90% of the $12.65 billion Rooppur plant -- Bangladesh's largest infrastructure project.

"Given the significance of this power plant project, it is natural that Bangladesh will try to keep it going at any cost," said Shafquat Rabbee, adjunct faculty at the University of Dallas' business school in the U.S., explaining why Dhaka is in effect signing on to China and Russia's plan to counter the dollar.

But Rabbee argued that Dhaka would be wise to confine the payments to those for Rooppur. Otherwise, it "will cause much tension with Bangladesh's Western partners," he said.

There are few economic reasons for Bangladesh to engage in "a geopolitical adventurism against the West around trade currencies," he added, noting that most of Bangladesh's foreign currency earnings come from Europe, the U.S. and American allies.

Data from Bangladesh Bank, the country's central bank, shows the U.S. was the largest importer of Bangladeshi products in 2021, importing $8.3 billion. In the same year, U.S. companies invested $4.3 billion in the country, accounting for over 20% of the total foreign direct investment stock.

On the other hand, even though China is Bangladesh's largest trading partner, the relationship heavily favors China. Out of around $13.61 billion in bilateral trade in 2021, Bangladesh's exports to China accounted for about $680 million, while imports from China added up to $12.93 billion.

"China is now the largest trading partner for most countries in the world," Rabbee said. "Given China's dominant trade status, the recent China-Russia or China-Saudi Arabia trade settlement agreements using yuan may start to gradually chip away at the dollar's preferred trade currency status.

"However, China exports more to other countries than it imports from them and as a net exporter, China may not be yet ready to dominate the world of trade with its artificially undervalued currency."

Bangladesh's central bank has been building up the share of yuan in its foreign currency reserves since 2017, after the currency was included in the International Monetary Fund's Special Drawing Rights (SDR) currency basket.

The yuan's portion of the country's forex reserves rose to 1.32% last August, from 1% in 2017, while the dollar declined to 75% from 81%, according to data published by local media and confirmed by a source familiar with the matter.

In September, Bangladesh Bank issued a circular allowing commercial banks to maintain accounts in yuan with their corresponding branches abroad to settle cross-border transactions. Last month, it also allowed local businesses to maintain export retention quotas -- the portion of foreign currency that an exporter can retain after repatriating the export earnings -- in yuan.

Mezbaul Haq, a spokesperson for Bangladesh Bank, told Nikkei Asia that the country has not adopted a deliberate policy to build up yuan reserves. "Considering the global situation and the market, we are just hedging our risk and diversifying our portfolio," he said.

As for the nuclear plant payments, Haq said, "The decision on this has been taken by the ERD. We only made recommendations."

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018


didnt watch

webcams for christ
Nov 2, 2005

getting there....

https://twitter.com/lines_down/status/1649512155644055552

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019
american dollar
go gently caress youself

The Atomic Man-Boy
Jul 23, 2007

Bitcoin will fix this

Osv18
Jul 23, 2022

by vyelkin
has anybody said bitcoin yet

e: gently caress

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

That's a helluva chart.

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019
yah it’s happening and it’s accelerating, these next few years are gonna be wilde

croup coughfield
Apr 8, 2020
Probation
Can't post for 93 days!
been thinking on it. we're gonna turn it around

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

croup coughfield posted:

been thinking on it. we're gonna turn it around

Gonna do a sweet 360 on the way down

Lpzie
Nov 20, 2006

im ahead on the curve, as always..... start dumping NOw!!!

Lpzie
Nov 20, 2006

stomp ur feet!!!! make noise.... we're gonna get that paper!

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

croup coughfield posted:

been thinking on it. we're gonna turn it around

It wouldn't be the first time.

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Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

Well I guess whatever happened around 1990-1991 just has to happen again.

croup coughfield
Apr 8, 2020
Probation
Can't post for 93 days!
i believe in american innovation and can-do spirit. we're gonna come out of this a-ok.

Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon
invent dollar2

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

Cpt_Obvious posted:

Well I guess whatever happened around 1990-1991 just has to happen again.

it’s jeb time

Lpzie
Nov 20, 2006

Colonel Cancer posted:

invent dollar2

great idea but not well thought out... as a younger currency it'll be easier to export and destroy...

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

croup coughfield posted:

i believe in american innovation and can-do spirit. we're gonna come out of this a-ok.

Uber for international monetary exchange

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.
I like graphs.

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Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Weka posted:

I like graphs.



Britishly "oi, no!"

Oglethorpe
Aug 8, 2005

💵:sissies:💶

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*
https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1651399630167392258?t=VTbqST5BgQKnHWiwiWLo5Q&s=19


quote:

BUENOS AIRES, April 26 (Reuters) - Argentina will start to pay for Chinese imports in yuan rather than dollars, the government announced Wednesday, a measure that aims to relieve the country's dwindling dollar reserves.

In April, it aims to pay around $1 billion of Chinese imports in yuan instead of dollars and thereafter around $790 million of monthly imports will be paid in yuan, a government statement said.

The decision aims to ease the outflow of dollars, Argentina's Economy minister Sergio Massa said during an event following a meeting with the Chinese ambassador, Zou Xiaoli, as well as with companies from various sectors.

The decision comes as the South American nation battles critical levels in its dollar reserves amid a sharp drop in agricultural exports caused by a historic drought, as well as political uncertainty ahead of elections this year.

In November last year, Argentina expanded a currency swap with China by $5 billion, seeking to strengthen Argentina's international reserves.

The agreement will allow Argentina "to work on the possibility" of advancing the rate of imports, Massa added, with yuan-denominated import orders being authorized in 90 days rather than the standard 180 days.

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*
double post

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Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

crepeface posted:

double post

no it’s just multi-polar posting

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