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Valgaav posted:I find it interesting that Coolguye refers to Saber as 'she' while Roboky seems to use 'they'. If Anime has taught me anything, it's to assume that anyone gender-ambiguous in media is a guy. TheLastRoboKy posted:I'm obfuscating like a CHAMPION. yeah, it's this, actually. i heard roboky use 'they' early on, and the first few times i used 'she' in an attempt to see if he would switch pronouns on me. he didn't, denying me the data point. that was a conscious experiment on my part. of course, by the time i was sure he wasn't going to switch, it became obvious that Saber identifies with food more than any gender and would probably put down pronouns as "any/all/what the gently caress are you talking about" and i keep using 'she' because the voice actress has a very feminine voice.
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Coolguye posted:yeah, it's this, actually.
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yeah the gendering came through before that in suffixes and usage. when it gets down to it japanese is a pretty sharply gendered language, and unlike many other languages that have gender threaded through it very heavily (like german), all of those gender attributions are incredibly impactful on all levels. pronouns in the way english-speakers think of them were just not that important in japanese until relatively recently, when mass communications started making it relevant. i haven't been listening THAT closely to Saber's word choice because she's got a tendency to talk really fast in many situations and i'm actually pretty bad at japanese. i pick up on more of iori's statements because he's pretty clearly written to be a brooding type - he rarely uses two words when one will do. which has the side effect of making his language pretty gender-neutral. i suspect this was part of the point. Coolguye fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Dec 19, 2023 |
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Quick and dirty Saber speech pattern analysis: personal pronoun is "watashi" - technically gender neutral but leans feminine in casual speech since dudes tend to lean strongly into "boku" or "ore" uses "kimi" to refer to "you" - gender neutral, indicates that the speaker believes themselves to be of equal or higher status than those spoken to uses -zo as a sentence ender for emphasis - leans masculine iirc but not as much as -ze uses some archaic word choices such as "yoi" instead of "ii" - meant to emphasize that Saber is from an older time period I think Saber's general manner of speech is also indicative of nobility rather than samurai, as opposed to Iori's (and Yui's, incidentally) samurai speech style Tarezax fucked around with this message at 20:16 on Dec 19, 2023 |
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So the servants are real bodies that can interact with the normies? Having never got into Fate/, I kinda figured servants were like Stands
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:So the servants are real bodies that can interact with the normies? Having never got into Fate/, I kinda figured servants were like Stands They do what they want. But ‘being real’ and ‘doing things’ costs mana, which their summoner needs to be able to provide.
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:So the servants are real bodies that can interact with the normies? Having never got into Fate/, I kinda figured servants were like Stands Servants can essentially go invisible if/when needed.
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:So the servants are real bodies that can interact with the normies? Having never got into Fate/, I kinda figured servants were like Stands While they can turn invisible/intangible when convenient (since they're basically ghosts of dead people no matter how much Saber hypes them up), they mostly walk around autonomously and stuff with something that approximates a normal tangible body. They strictly don't need to eat hamburgers and sleep on your sofa and such, but they can do so recreationally.
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roboky and i did an episode recently that is so much of an infodump on those sorts of specifics that the game visibly goes from midday to evening to nighttime as it goes on. ultimately iori is even more clueless than even new people to the FATE franchise than you could hope to be so he'll be asking a lot of questions like that. e: to be clear, i'm not suggesting that folks don't bother asking or hold off. you're here to chat, so chat. it's more to say "you're not alone here." Coolguye fucked around with this message at 05:02 on Dec 20, 2023 |
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Unless I'm missing something, the original F/SN isn't on Steam. Is there anywhere else to pick it up?
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 Update Time! Episode 3 - Blundering Through the Flowerbed With a bottomless chasm to feed now, Iori sets off for Yoshiwara in the hope that a bodyguard job will net him some rice-and-miso money. Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Unless I'm missing something, the original F/SN isn't on Steam. Is there anywhere else to pick it up? Wish I could tell ya, but I got no idea. I think you're probably going to have to go digging through fan translation stuff to get it.
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Unless I'm missing something, the original F/SN isn't on Steam. Is there anywhere else to pick it up? Of the voluminous officially translated Fate stuff, for whatever reason, the original VN (or, more accurately, Realta Nua, since the original original release is probably never going to again see the light of day) has never officially been translated into any other language.
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On the Kaminarimon - the area is definitely still called Asakusa. Asakusa Station is literally a block away from that gate
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It's been loving years since I last posted and what the gently caress was that. loving Fate poo poo, goddamnit.
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Coolguye posted:Sure! Why not! We'll do that! fate.txt
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Tarezax posted:On the Kaminarimon - the area is definitely still called Asakusa. Asakusa Station is literally a block away from that gate Yeah, I've realised that and corrected myself in a future episode. Then I go rooting around in tourism blogs and learn most of the places are still named as such. Edit: Oh and I should probably mention I've added the Kawaraban we've picked up to lore post I set up. I was kind of initially torn on how I would do things like character profiles by and large because of the importance of many identities being kept hidden for so long, so it kind of rode the line of being unimportant or being massive spoilers. So instead I'm going with the Kawaraban because they give you stuff that supplies some background to the setting without really diving into spoilers. Gonna just add them here as well for those not inclined to read those posts: Issue 1: Asakusa posted:Try the Ise Special, Honeyed Rice Cakes! Issue 2: Asakusa posted:Who Dwells in the Haunted House? Issue 3: Yoshiwara posted:Takao Dayu the 2nd, a Femme Fatale? TheLastRoboKy fucked around with this message at 05:05 on Dec 22, 2023 |
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at first sight of Takao Dayu's 3d model, I thought she was sticking out her tongue
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I honestly expected the game to cut back to the timid debtor after their discussion and there would just be a dotted outline of him and a dust cloud. Kind of disappointed that they didn't.
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I know Coolguy's stumbled onto people posting pics and memes of Fate Musashi on discord in the past but never with any context (because most of the people already familiar with Fate wouldn't need that extra context) so basically, CG just saw a vaguely familiar pink-haired swordswoman wearing probably more clothes than he's ever seen her in, given the popularity of her summer bikini costume, and his brain had about five seconds to catch up before he realized what just happened.
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Everyone who plays FGO at that moment: Hell yeah! Everyone else: Huh? What the gently caress?
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Even in the wide panoply of weird social situations that have cropped up in various Type Moon media over the years, Iori's meeting with pink-haired lady might rank Top 5 weirdest
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The only reason I figured out who it was immediately and didn't go "what the gently caress" was because I was aware of the Fate franchise's penchant for going "this hero dude is a lady servant now" The three exceptions I'm aware of are the heroes who fulfilled the roles of Lancer and Berserker (names withheld because it's more fun that way) from Fate/Stay Night (and one of the Archers), as I'm pretty sure they haven't had female servant forms. Yet. Not 100% confident, though. I'm never 100% confident about anything regarding the Fate franchise and the physical appearance of servants. Shei-kun fucked around with this message at 06:58 on Dec 25, 2023 |
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Fate is a gacha game now. Waifus are compulsory. (I mean they started well before that, but that's just Nasu)
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Runa posted:I know Coolguy's stumbled onto people posting pics and memes of Fate Musashi on discord in the past but never with any context (because most of the people already familiar with Fate wouldn't need that extra context) so basically, CG just saw a vaguely familiar pink-haired swordswoman wearing probably more clothes than he's ever seen her in, given the popularity of her summer bikini costume, and his brain had about five seconds to catch up before he realized what just happened. i generally treat the fate stuff in the time warriors discord somewhat like i treat vtuber stuff - it's a massive world that i have no understanding of so it passes through my brain with barely a whisper. granted, i did have a vague memory of the giant loving smile that FATE musashi is apparently famous for, but no way was i agile enough to put all that together in the short time i had.
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I'm a bit more careful at the moment in regards to Fate-posting in Coolguye's direction because while I know what's currently in F/SR there's apparently three whole big DLCs coming the entirety of this year so I don't know who is getting added and I don't want to spoil the guessing games. Also as a Christmas present they updated the game this week, adding two more difficulty modes (I think an extremely easy one and extremely hard one?) and a new function to a feature we won't be seeing for quite a while so look forwards to that!
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Update Time! Episode 4 - Demonic Revelry This one's very exposition heavy to start, but at the end we'll have all we need in order to appropriately go out stabbing our enemies in confidence in this Waxing Moon Ritual. Perhaps now these two clowns will start taking this whole battle to the death thing more seriously?
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I noticed you mentioned "the late writer of Type Moon" when talking about Musashi, but Nasu ain't dead last time I checked,
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It took me an embarrassingly long time to find the fifth shrine considering where it is. Something to note about the Mad Enhancement communication issues, even if all they do is yell and grunt they may still be trying to say something articulate. Fate/Extella's Berserker side story was mostly there to show what he was trying to say behind the grunts during the main story.
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One small detail of note is that at the end of the previous episode, Takao Dayu spoke rather formally in a courtesan dialect. For this conversation, she's entirely dropped it and speaks casually.
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Draga posted:I noticed you mentioned "the late writer of Type Moon" when talking about Musashi, but Nasu ain't dead last time I checked, I actually said "lead writer" on that one!
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TheLastRoboKy posted:I actually said "lead writer" on that one! Now that you've said that, I hear it when I just went back
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I'm pretty sure they don't actually mention Rogue Berserker's True Name during the mainline quest of the game at all...
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Valgaav posted:I'm pretty sure they don't actually mention Rogue Berserker's True Name during the mainline quest of the game at all... They definitely do but it might be contingent on finishing all his sidestories
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Valgaav posted:I'm pretty sure they don't actually mention Rogue Berserker's True Name during the mainline quest of the game at all... Tarezax posted:They definitely do but it might be contingent on finishing all his sidestories It will be revealed in time, that I can guarantee! Tarezax posted:One small detail of note is that at the end of the previous episode, Takao Dayu spoke rather formally in a courtesan dialect. For this conversation, she's entirely dropped it and speaks casually. They really do nail mannerisms of speech and action in this game really well, having Coolguye around to point out the Japanese word usage/context is enhancing my re-experience. Whammiewazzle posted:It took me an embarrassingly long time to find the fifth shrine considering where it is. Yeah, it's not to say that a Berserker is an incomprehensible mess of violence that you can never understand, it's perhaps more that understanding is much more difficult (and if you manage to achieve it you've done well).
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TheLastRoboKy posted:They really do nail mannerisms of speech and action in this game really well, having Coolguye around to point out the Japanese word usage/context is enhancing my re-experience. If I pick up on something, the writers put enough thought into that point that they really wanted you to notice.
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Assuming of course they weren't an incomprehensible mess of violence before Mad Enhancement.
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Well, they just added Saber to Fate/Grand Order in Japan with more to come later in January with a collab, but more importantly the first DLC for Fate/Samurai Remnant is coming out in February. I have no idea where this DLC will sit in regards to the rest of the game so I have no idea how I'll be incorporating it into the LP pray for me the game has already forced me to wipe my save game files once.
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TheLastRoboKy posted:Well, they just added Saber to Fate/Grand Order in Japan with more to come later in January with a collab, but more importantly the first DLC for Fate/Samurai Remnant is coming out in February. I have no idea where this DLC will sit in regards to the rest of the game so I have no idea how I'll be incorporating it into the LP pray for me the game has already forced me to wipe my save game files once. You want my opinion, just finish the game as you normally would, do the DLC as it comes out, and, if their setting is chronologically important to the main story, just set those episodes as interstitials in the normal episode list. Also, yes, FGO is not making any attempt to hide Saber's name, so I wouldn't look up anything about FSR content in FGO.
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As of last week the official website for Fate/Samurai Remnant isn't hiding the name either, it's just outright told to you if you dare to go into the character section. I guess they figured enough time had passed that they're not going to bother anymore.
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