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The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


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what is there to have a bias against beyond their ln contest leading to them spending years adapting mediocre material

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The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


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i don't feel like there's any real constant to judge kyoani by beyond the ln stuff unless you're someone who's still hooked on five year old spoilers for euphonium from a point where the books weren't finished yet. there's dry spells in their output but most studios you can look at what they release along a period of time and find a lot of garbage

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


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Larryb posted:

So are there any good modern isekai shows out there while we’re on the subject? They seem to be churning out a lot of them as of late

there's some decent ones but the problem is that kadokawa pumps out so many that a lot of the ones with more fun ideas and writing don't get much love production-wise. shokei shoujo is a fun cheesy action adventure thing that manages to do fun stuff with what was clearly a pretty tight schedule and magical revolution adds some fun new scenes on top of okay to decent source material.

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


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i mean it's notably not a thing in ones like shokei shoujo and re:zero. in yakuza reincarnation it's an explanation for why the princess is a character from a yakuza game, in something like slime witch or one of the several notable yuri reincarnation stories the misfortune and dreams the main character had in life influence their behavior towards others in the fantasy world. typically if it's used as the framing and isn't really factored in any meaningful way that is just the regular thing of the story being bad

lots of the popular old isekai stories also have their pretty strong fundamental differences with the more recent wave. something like rayearth, dunbine or escaflowne did very actively factor the main character's connections with the real world into the writing, in dunbine's case half of the show's narrative doesn't even take place in the fantasy world and has a more active interest in what chaos ensues when people get dragged back and forth between the two

The Colonel fucked around with this message at 23:44 on Jan 2, 2024

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


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Silver2195 posted:

I’m tempted to say that it’s more interesting if the protagonist does want to get back, because that’s a least a motivation, and one that can either lead to other motivations or conflict with them. For example: what if multiple people get isekai’d together, and some are more interested in getting back home than others? What if the protagonist finds a way back home almost immediately, but it comes at a price he’s not willing to pay?

i mean there are several stories like this already. it's one of the fundamental ideas in dunbine, show finds his way back home relatively early on but the situation that gets him there is so chaotic it effectively ruins his life. meanwhile a lot of the bad guys are people who got summoned in and either got to thinking about how they could dominate this world or bring technology back from it to dominate earth and do whatever they want

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


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the whole crux of rayearth's split between part 1 and part 2 is that the magic knights do end up going back home but the situation they left cephiro in was so bad they feel obligated to go back so they can properly set it right

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


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Furnaceface posted:

That sounds awesome though, and now I feel like I should watch it.

it's decent. the anime kinda has too much padding though and the manga is funnier

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


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also talking about the mecha genre purely in terms of "eva likes" kinda springs from a weird bit of ignoring that like. eva wasnt the only hugely popular and influential mecha anime of that year. nadesico was roughly as popular it just didn't have a tight enough creative grasp around itself for future works to maintain that presence, prince of darkness did not really end up being its end of evangelion

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


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i mean most of them also just aren't that much like madoka. the hosed UP darker ones go to immediately more ridiculous extremes than madoka did and stuff like granbelm, wixoss and flip flappers have like, very distinctly different tonal and creative identities. it's like calling madoka an uta~kata clone just because, uta~kata happened to be a kind of gloomy and sad magical girl show that aired a bit earlier

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


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the real big pusher towards mecha getting psychedelic and more introspective was takeshi shudo

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


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drat, what other pornography have they ran? let me bust out my notebook so i can make a list of every single show to avoid watching

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


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gently caress that poo poo. Horny for MC guy? I'm only gonna read about fat rear end elves if they're all gay.

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


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bad fantasy has always existed so i dont see a need to differentiate it

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


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the first episode of bang bravern... kinda ruled?

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


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mostly the first episode of bang bravern made me glad obari still knows how to tell incredibly stupid (but funny) jokes. definitely has the feel of something like dancouga nova where it's probably not gonna be the best thing ever but i like the characters and the insane bullshit that happens

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


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cute girls doing cute things, or as i like to call it, women existing

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


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when bang bravern gets into srw they should give it a plot arc around it turning into the united galaxy space force, and have it cross over with ace combat 3 electrosphere and mr. driller

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


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Waffleman_ posted:

Yeah, I don't know what Bravern is cooking yet, but it's absolutely cooking

it's an obari anime so no matter how it turns out it's going to at least have been a memorable ride

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


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shout out to the time obari directed an anime adaptation of a kind of boring, styleless sega saturn adventure game nobody played and he turned it into this

https://files.catbox.moe/6zfwvf.mp4

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


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obari directed the toshinden ova which. is probably one of the best fighting game ovas? the story's about what you expect but it actually has some style so the action looks pretty good and it moves at a good pace.

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


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i like virus buster's bizarre lineage, of a saturn adventure game adapted into an anime that was nothing like the game, which then got its own tie-in ps1 card game that had no ties to the original saturn game

Arc Hammer posted:

Obari draws his human characters with the same dimensions as his mecha characters.

the variety of human shapes he draws in virus buster is a marvel

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


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obari is not that kind of mecha director

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


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the immediate joke of bravern is pretty obviously just playing with the contrast between the relatively grounded and serious world the existing cast are used to with bravern being a guy straight out of, a braves series show. he's an extremely earnest funny robot man crashing into someone else's mecha anime to save them from a threat they couldn't possibly protect themselves from otherwise. any twist about him being evil would be silly, bravern's sudden appearance and isami's reaction is more setting up how the show is going to explore the clash of these different ends of mecha and how the characters respond to it

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The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


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:pwn:

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


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The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


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The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


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i'm glad obari's twitter av is terry bogard from the fatal fury ova, that obari directed

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


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i don't think it's a mark of any hidden misogyny about dbz i think toriyama just forgets what to do with characters. chichi is kind of boring because he doesn't really have any ideas for how to work her in anywhere. android 17 is just kind of in the background because she had her arc and he doesn't know how to work her into anything new. bulma is cool because bulma's central thing gives her a natural inclination to continue being in on the action and he's kept a pretty consistent grip on what her thing is and how it's meant to contrast with everyone else. there are more forgotten older characters in dragonball at this point than there are ones people remember and the interesting thing about bulma is how she's maintained a central enough position in group dynamics to never slip down into there

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The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


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dragonball also just like. fundamentally isn't like most popular battle shonen. like it doesn't end at marriage because unlike something more modern, dragonball barely ever had the pretext of building up to an ending. most action shonen don't get the majority of their fanbase specifically from the back half, or evolve into being action shonen from an adventure-focused gag manga. dragonball will go on for as long as toriyama can keep bullshitting and there aren't many people in the industry who can bullshit as efficiently as toriyama can.

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


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dragonball rules exactly because it's just a decent gag manga guy shooting his shot out with another random new idea. and accidentally creating one of the most beloved universes and casts of all time because it turns out being good at drawing weird goofy-looking freaks, and good at writing weird new situations and characters, is extremely transferrable to writing cool space wrestling with laser beams

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


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no, he's powered by gay sex

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


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it's an unbound obari anime. this is a guy who was directing mecha yuri in 2007

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1JmT56PFVw

dancouga nova isn't perfect but it's an anime that ends with a lesbian race car driver punching an alien with a nuke so it's pretty good

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


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also an anime where in-universe lore is japan's population skews so young in the future that minimum age for using guns got lowered so there's a part where someone is showing off her gun rack and going "now, no touching. you have to be 16 years or older to hold one of these." and then the team psychiatrist is like "i just turned 16 last week" and reaches for a rifle

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


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i dont really think dbz being simple is a strike against it. it's a major aspect of why it's such a universally likable thing. toriyama's an entertainer, all dragonball needs to be is entertaining and that's what it consistently is. leave the deeper storytelling to people who care about telling it

like yeah it's narratively and tactically shallow but... all its audience wants is some funny looking bad guys for our guys to punch. the literal central appeal of dbz is that the fights Look Cool. all it needs, is to have funny looking guys and action that looks cool. it skips a major problem jojo has to contend with which is that when every fight has to have more deliberate structure and tactics applied it's a lot harder to make every fight interesting on that level. dbz just has to have some cool laser beams and sound effects

The Colonel fucked around with this message at 03:55 on Jan 19, 2024

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


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all a dbz fight needs to be complete is a background track with a guy shouting "SUUUUUUPAAAAA BROOOOLYYYY!!! GOOOOGEEEEETAAAAA!!! GO! BROLY! GO! BROLY! COME ON! BROLY!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7uhkyameuk

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Jun 8, 2013


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The Colonel
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Jun 8, 2013


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the cooking is like the smallest fraction of dungeon meshi

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Jun 8, 2013


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I wish this gay porn was less like gay porn

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