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ZearothK posted:I would sign a deal with the devil for a cool hat.
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Staring down a charger as he barrels toward you while your quasar is slowly spooling up is 
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EATs need an alt mode where you throw rocks at the dumbass charger to get its attention, so it turns towards you and you can finally blow its head off
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To stun a bile titan now, you throw a 500kg in front of a BT walking towards you. When its on the stratagem laser you get him to puke and he stuns himself  Infinitum posted:EATs need an alt mode where you throw rocks at the dumbass charger to get its attention, so it turns towards you and you can finally blow its head off Use your primary on heavies to get their attention, even if it bounces they change aggro to you most of the time
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Baby T. Love posted:God, processing Bile Titans with Stun Grenade into Precision Strike was the coolest poo poo. I know they don't want everything to be "solved" or whatever but I was having way more fun in that era than now where it seems like I need to take Quasar AND EATs to be killing BTs with any speed and consistency. Didn't understand the change either. Use some skill and timing to get a stun grenade to blow up in its face. And even with it standing still momentarily you still have to line up and fire off a shot or two depending on your weapon. What was wrong with that, gameplay-wise? Nothing about the encounter was trivial, especially with other enemies (including other Titans) around to deal with as well.
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Risky Bisquick posted:To stun a bile titan now, you throw a 500kg in front of a BT walking towards you. When its on the stratagem laser you get him to puke and he stuns himself All I'm hearing is I should, from a balance perspective, be able to do this same thing while expending a grenade if I so choose.
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Maybe the orbital EMS, but not grenades. You don't really need to stun them to use stratagems on them, just get used to the puking stun strategy. When you get the cadence figured out bile titans are no big deal this is why shooting out their puke sacs is counter productive, they just keep chasing when that happens https://i.imgur.com/n6Y7nP6.mp4 Risky Bisquick fucked around with this message at 19:54 on Apr 23, 2024 |
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Stun grenades are pretty much the definition of trivializing encounters though xD. Not only are these big aggressive armored enemies not killing you, they also become sitting ducks. The whole pressure element of the game, the panic filled error fest as you're overrun - it goes away. You can stand like 2 feet away plinking hulks with the AMR. You could (previously) kill bile titans by dropping random pods on them while they just stand there. Only reason stun grenades haven't taken over is that impact grenades are the OG OP. Grenade balance in general is all sorts of boned. Impacts are a blatant upgrade to HEs and disproportionately gently caress over some specific enemies (spewers, scout striders, shredder tanks.) Frags are worse HEs afaict. Thermites are outright broken, and even if they worked impacts already do the anti-vehicle job faster and better. Incendiaries are boned by the DOT bug. Smokes are useful, but only in niche anti-bot builds, and themselves carry the problem of arguably obsoleting *two* stratagems. Stuns are hilariously good and badly outclass the orbital EMS strike in practical usage. Precision strike needs to come in a liiiittle faster. Or maybe have a weird upgrade like acting as a ranging shot for other orbital strategems. TheDeadlyShoe fucked around with this message at 20:14 on Apr 23, 2024 |
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Baby T. Love posted:God, processing Bile Titans with Stun Grenade into Precision Strike was the coolest poo poo. I know they don't want everything to be "solved" or whatever but I was having way more fun in that era than now where it seems like I need to take Quasar AND EATs to be killing BTs with any speed and consistency.
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Apr 23, 2024 20:11
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Infinitum posted:EATs need an alt mode where you throw rocks at the dumbass charger to get its attention, so it turns towards you and you can finally blow its head off Warbond with caveman weapons, thrown rock for a grenade, sling secondary, club, spear and bow primaries. Booster that increases move speed of the entire squad.
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Black Noise posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zSWZtorP8U&t=48s Yeah, that's exactly why I hated the 380s for tower defense. LOL The 380s are fine before door three, just not ON door three.
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i still have not been able to figure out why people think that the Eruptor is good against bugs and bad against bots. do people just get robots and bugs confused and accidentally type the wrong words
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Yeah that's silly, it's pretty good against both.
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Black Noise posted:If your 3rd door is breached you better have the prayer stratagem equipped to beat Giygas There has been very little middle ground. I've been in 5s where we camp the outer walls with perfectly timed and rotated orbital drops and sentry coverage. I've been in 4s where nobody closes any door and we run out of respawn tokens by 10 minutes. Never had the outer wall breached and held the second line of defense.
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Has anyone else gotten a bug where, after the ship moves to a new mission location, your framerate drops and your walkspeed becomes slower than anyone else's? This happens to me frequently and I don't know what causes it. I have to keep rebooting the game to fix it.
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Sindai posted:Yeah that's silly, it's pretty good against both. it's comparatively a lot better against bots. it can one shot groups of troopers, it can one shot groups of striders, it can one shot devastators if you aim below the belt or manage to score a headshot. the utility of one hit kills is really important when dealing with an enemy faction that shoots back since you're exposed to their fire for a much shorter period of time.
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Sometimes when I exit the game it freaks my computer out and makes it run at warp speed
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The reason I think eruptor is better against bugs is pretty simply that it fits into my builds better. Against bots I'm normally running AC which already does most of what eruptor would be doing, while against bugs on higher levels I'm constantly running quasar/EAT due to chargers/titans. So slotting in eruptor for utility and spewer killing makes a lot of sense.
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LazyMaybe posted:The reason I think eruptor is better against bugs is pretty simply that it fits into my builds better. Against bots I'm normally running AC which already does most of what eruptor would be doing, while against bugs on higher levels I'm constantly running quasar/EAT due to chargers/titans. So slotting in eruptor for utility and spewer killing makes a lot of sense. you can also run it with the stalwart or mg since you can eventually kill a charger. Makes for a fun if not optimal loadout.
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I love the stalwart and it is my favored support weapon, but do not engage with a charger if that's all you got. Just walk away.
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turn off the TV posted:it's comparatively a lot better against bots. it can one shot groups of troopers, it can one shot groups of striders, it can one shot devastators if you aim below the belt or manage to score a headshot. the utility of one hit kills is really important when dealing with an enemy faction that shoots back since you're exposed to their fire for a much shorter period of time. I think it's comparatively a lot better against bugs, tbh, but not through any fault of the Eruptor. I feel like the autocannon does everything the Eruptor does, but better (fair since it takes strat, support, and backpack slots) but there's a lot more room in my anti-bot gear for an autocannon. For bugs, though, I feel like Quasar/RR/EATs are much more important than they are against bugs, which makes the opportunity cost of bringing an autocannon higher, and laserdogs are better against bugs than bots, changing the cost/benefit of a backpack slot too. But if I bring an autocannon to bots, then the Eruptor doesn't do anything but be a worse autocannon, so I should bring a primary that lets me do something different.
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KirbyKhan posted:I love the stalwart and it is my favored support weapon, but do not engage with a charger if that's all you got. Just walk away. eruptor damages the rear end, its slow and not ideal but if you are caught alone it will kill it, or you can contribute meaningful damage with friends
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A couple of times on level 8 missions I've dropped with just a jump pack, no support weapon, and picked up a support weapon from a POI, and it works pretty good. You also get the Queso guy's 2nd cannon six minutes in if they're decent. It's crazy they'll drop autocannons with no backpacks at the POIs. That's worthless! Megaman's Jockstrap fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Apr 23, 2024 |
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KirbyKhan posted:I love the stalwart and it is my favored support weapon, but do not engage with a charger if that's all you got. Just walk away. Why do you not simply pop its butt with your Scorcher? Or impact grenade its open and shoot them with your Scorcher. Or run away. With your Scorcher.
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The Charger gets a stun grenade and an orbital precision strike. Get out of here you big nerd.
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WoodrowSkillson posted:you can also run it with the stalwart or mg since you can eventually kill a charger. Makes for a fun if not optimal loadout. I use eruptor/stalwart when I want to fill a bug chaff killing role and it regularly results in obscene kill counts. However it tends to mean that my team members need to be specc'd for AT to compensate.
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Why even shoot guns at chargers? I just chuck a 500k/POS/supply pod/sos beacon/whatever else is off cooldown followed by a stun grenade and a wave goodbye. They're less of a threat and more sport for my gunners.
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For those having trouble two-shotting Bile Titans: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvvbNJfPC3w TLDW: Aim for the armored forehead/crown as you would on a Charger. Do not fire when they are spitting bile, as the animation causes the weakspot to clip through their back armor.
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DeliciousPatriotism posted:I use eruptor/stalwart when I want to fill a bug chaff killing role and it regularly results in obscene kill counts. However it tends to mean that my team members need to be specc'd for AT to compensate. yeah, like i said you can manage individual chargers but titans are obviously a problem. but good old airstrikes, 500kg, and other things can work too. i have not tried stalwart/mg and eruptor against bots though, seems like a similar issue where you can handle a whole bunch of stuff but a few things can really mess you up.
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WoodrowSkillson posted:yeah, like i said you can manage individual chargers but titans are obviously a problem. but good old airstrikes, 500kg, and other things can work too. As the person who is usually a highly specialized AT specialist who struggles with trooper chaff with my low rof, high pen loadouts: thank you for your service (if you so choose this loadout.) My Dominator is here to gently caress up devastators but it makes troopers surprisingly dangerous. I find the stalwart+MG good generally against troopers and devastators. MGs medium pen helps. I've had mixed results with eruptor vs bots, though it's great against groups of troopers and devastators or berserkers at range. Sometimes it blows their torso sky high and it's VERY satisfying. DeliciousPatriotism fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Apr 23, 2024 |
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Away all Goats posted:For those having trouble two-shotting Bile Titans:
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ZearothK posted:I would sign a deal with the devil for a cool hat. Team Fortress is that away ---->
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WoodrowSkillson posted:i have not tried stalwart/mg and eruptor against bots though, seems like a similar issue where you can handle a whole bunch of stuff but a few things can really mess you up. Eruptor + Laser Cannon vs. bots imo
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Cognac McCarthy posted:The quasar cannon periodically sends charger corpses loving flying through the air, which I don't believe any other support weapon can do. That's why it's the best one to use Thermite will make em go full beyblade often, its about the only good thing about it. Ash1138 posted:if the rush i get from staring down a charger that's barreling towards me while the queso cannon spools up is wrong then i don't ever wanna be right https://i.imgur.com/713DbSC.mp4 https://i.imgur.com/pooLkBw.mp4 That being said I do like an EAT-only loadout on bugs too, with an eruptor or crossbow primary. Dont have to worry about picking up your support weapons because you can blow up 3 chargers with one EAT callin.
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I tend to favor EAT over the Quasar simply because it doesn't matter what happens if you die and get respawned on the other end of the map, or if your equipment gets overrun by the enemy, with the EAT you will always have AT power within a minute.
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Fishstick posted:Thermite will make em go full beyblade often, its about the only good thing about it. How did you enable charger slow motion and no-corpse collision? Raytracing???
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Cognac McCarthy posted:The quasar cannon periodically sends charger corpses loving flying through the air, which I don't believe any other support weapon can do. That's why it's the best one to use All AT weapons can do that, I've absolutely seen clips of people killing Bile Titans with Charger corpses before QC dropped.
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Hwurmp posted:I'll bet that RR is really good on rocket defense, but I'll also bet lots of people don't like having to sit and reload instead of acting freely while they wait for a cooldown even if it's much longer The quasar just makes you reload before firing it, but gives you a loading bar to make you feel better about it. Infinitum posted:EATs need an alt mode where you throw rocks at the dumbass charger to get its attention, so it turns towards you and you can finally blow its head off That's what the EAT pokeball is for. Infidelicious fucked around with this message at 23:38 on Apr 23, 2024 |
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Infidelicious posted:The quasar just makes you reload before firing it, but gives you a loading bar to make you feel better about it.
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