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MassRafTer posted:It was always funny when wrestling fans would speak of Jerry McDevitt in hushed tones like he was a supersoldier lawyer. This isn't to say that he didn't serve as Vince's fixer or anything like that. He absolutely did. But by all accounts, he was a genuinely great lawyer, and I've seen some weird examples of how dedicated and hardworking he was. (When he deposed Big Show's boxing trainer, he mentioned having read the trainer's obscure self-published book about his boxercise program, which he really didn't need to do and which a paralegal could have done regardless.) But I think he absolutely slipped with age. I'm not sure when that would have started — the Nicole Bass thing was weird in part because it felt like he may have done it on his own without coordinating with WWE — but by the time he responded to our questions for the Business Insider ring boys article, something was off. It's one thing to have hubris, but I don't remember him ever showing his proverbial rear end the way he did there in late 2020 when he talked about how he had no memory of the 1999 ring boy lawsuit (and 2000 settlement of that suit) even though his name and signature were on everything. Regardless, being an rear end in a top hat and a pitbull of a lawyer who seemingly crafted a specific persona to please Vince and being a great lawyer (at least before age took its toll) aren't mutually exclusive. Happy to answer any questions about dealing with him, BTW. At one point we had a more friendly relationship and he was genuinely fascinating to talk to, but I always knew that it would eventually turn adversarial and kept that in mind. The Bass article seemingly bothered him in part because I had emailed him an unrelated question in that time frame and didn't reach out for the Bass article. But...it wasn't really that kind of article. Jerry and company being absolutely terrible to opposing parties in lawsuits was nothing new, there was no reason to get comment from him unless it was the kind of "do you regret this kind of tactic in hindsight" kind of thing we wouldn't have gotten a good answer to regardless. It wasn't really in question that what I found was slut shaming, it's just that nobody really had any idea previously that it was part of their defense. And, by all accounts, she didn't have a particularly strong case and did a lot to hurt her credibility, regardless, so why take it in that direction?
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We thought Vince and Laurinaitis's were aligned. We were wrong. Marchman's tweets with the key excerpts: https://twitter.com/timmarchman/status/1753159312447250690 Also, Re: the Sara Amato thing: Michaels didn't outright say she's still a full-time coach, but e still got super weird about it, saying she's so low-key that people don't notice she's there. Or something: https://streamable.com/pfioi8 davidbix fucked around with this message at 22:04 on Feb 1, 2024 |
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In case it's not becoming clear: Though Marchman is an outlier as... 1. A wrestling geek. 2. With extensive experience in trauma-informed reporting of both sex trafficking and sexual abuse more broadly. 3. Who has a female reporting partner (Anna Merlan) who's also great at #2. ...a bunch of outlets are working on stories right now. It seems like the Janel Grant lawsuit was the tipping point for a lot of outlets taking this seriously and devoting investigative reporting resources to WWE. Whether it's the scope, that it's a trafficking case, and/or that the specific allegations are so disturbing and well-documented, it seems to be getting through to media much more than past scandals. davidbix fucked around with this message at 05:45 on Feb 2, 2024 |
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bartok posted:Was anyone into those bikini contest and gravy matches besides Vince and his buddies back in the day? Even as a horny teen I never found it titillating just made me embarrassed to be a wrestling fan. Personally, my only real world interaction with a fan like that was at a Jersey All=Pro Wrestling show in 2003. April Hunter appeared twice on the show, both working as a valet and wrestling a singles match against Nikki Roxx. During both matches, there was one guy incessantly, loudly chanting "SHOW YOUR TITS!" at April Hunter. During intermission, which was in between her appearances, he announced to nobody in particular in the men's restroom that everyone should join in with him when she came back out. HIs rationale was that since she had posed for Playboy in the past, if enough people chanted it, she would oblige. Singularly one of the moments I've felt most embarrassed to be a fan while at a show, Thankfully, though, nobody humored him in the slightest.
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Thinking out loud, but...remember that whole thing where Jonathan Coachman imagined a nonexistent Plane Ride from Hell lawsuit where he was the star witness and then deleted the tweets/halfass apologized when I showed him how he was not talking about the famous lawsuit? Is the best assumption that it's just his memory being shot from concussions or that he confused it with another lawsuit that the media never discovered? It wasn't the first time he'd told the story, he seemed to genuinely believe it, and it had a lot of specific details that make me wonder if there really was some other lawsuit he confused it with. But...I dunno, wouldn't there have been some other sign of it somewhere?Luigi Thirty posted:I was at a CZW show Mania weekend in Orlando where someone got kicked out for changing into a shirt with a still from the Paige sex tape printed on it.
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C. Everett Koop posted:This is civil, not criminal. There's nothing to pardon.
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Long-Time Lurker posted:I think it's more that the women weren't confident in the NYT reporters' ability to adequately report on the story than their deciding not to pursue the story because they didn't understand wrestling. It's probably also worth noting that, when I wrote this in December 2017... https://twitter.com/deadspin/status/941652497822900225 ...Jerry McDevitt sent me (just me to start with, not editor Tim Marchman or general counsel Lynn Oberlander, presumably to scare me by going directly to me first) a really WEIRD legal threat. His main concerns were not knowing what slut shaming was while being angry that I framed his firm/colleagues as engaging in it and that I classified the Sable lawsuit as a sexual harassment lawsuit (the specific tort was not a cause of action in the suit, but sexual harassment was the gist of what she alleged and how contemporaneous media accounts described it). But he also went on a rant in there — I forget if it was in the original email or in response to one of Lynn's replies — derisively accusing me of "trying to become a 'MeToo' reporter" that always felt very weird. davidbix fucked around with this message at 02:28 on Feb 12, 2024 |
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Sir Tonk posted:Man, those between the sheets episodes on titangate are a serious commitment and a fascinating journey. Good job Mr Bix
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Technowrite posted:Sorry, I hate to be THAT loving GUY, but holy poo poo I had no idea you were a goon. I love your writing.
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STONE COLD 64 posted:i dont mean to make it grim to speculate on what would drive someone to take their life but the timing of tom cole's suicide and patterson dying without faceing justice after garvin and philips also had always made me think theres a lot more that never got out. MassRafTer posted:And then Patrick Laprade outed himself as a huge loving freak by losing his mind that a website dared cover Tom's suicide and his claims against Pat Patterson.
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MassRafTer posted:He flatly denied Pat did anything or covered anything up in his hissy fit that included quitting the website that dared talk about it. Also: Jim Stuart, Vince's limo driver, told both federal investigators and Phil Mushnick's lawyers that Pat was who suggested to Vince that Phillips could come back in 1988 if he agreed to stay away from kids. (He didn't stay away from kids and it wasn't a secret.)
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MassRafTer posted:He blocked me for it. https://twitter.com/mongo_ebooks/status/1364660758727045132
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I want to reply about the Cena/Total Divas stuff but I'm not sure exactly what I want to say yet? So in the meantime here's Dave Meltzer reporting in the Observer in 2006 what, in 2024, sure sounds like WWE trying to traffic women to their top male stars: https://twitter.com/IANdrewDiceClay/status/1760443335271981385
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The first Diss the Diva is still one of the most insane things ever to air on television, "cum-slurping gutter slut" and all: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxTILt0NUws
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HonorableTB posted:Based on what we know about Vince personally writing humiliating promos I'm going to assume that entire thing was personally handwritten by him.
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Craptacular! posted:Just to chime in on the Pat Patterson stuff, did he probably ever sexually assault a man in the current use of the term? I'm going to say 'probably', because he was gay in an era when men were using truck stops to get it on anonymously, and fleeing from the cops after some long-hauler who got felt up made a call. The state of the business during his career was still in that ultra-carny form and that sort of travelling circus usually draws people with sordid backgrounds looking to start over; it certainly wasn't a clean business at any level. I just don't know that many gay dudes born before 1970 who didn't engage at some point in life in some sort of sexual impropriety while living a frustrated life in the closet, even if it's something like catching a glimpse of a naked man in the shower; and living out of the closet often meant you were trying to denote yourself as available for all these closeted men out there and willing to risk the repercussions that came for it (fewer SA lawsuits, more slurs and fistfights). Literally nobody was talking about clumsy anonymous public restroom hookups. We weren't even talking about a witness telling the INS in the mid-1960s that Patterson was regularly patronizing street hustlers who were "young boys," which I don't think can be taken at face value for a number of different reasons. We're talking about specific allegations about Patterson from the late 1970s through his 1992 WWF resignation, almost all of which involved him being in a position of power over his accusers. Tom Cole was an underage ring boy who everyone agrees was credible about Mel Phillips and Terry Garvin's respective sexual abuse and sexual harassment of him. He also accused Patterson of groping him and otherwise sexually harassing him by staring at his crotch and licking his lips. He never recanted that allegation. And everything he alleged? He also swore to it under oath. Jim Stuart, Vince's limo driver, told both federal investigators and lawyers for Phil Mushnick/the NY Post that when Vince McMahon fired Mel Phillips in 1988 for being a pedophile, Patterson was the one who pushed Vince to rehire him as long as he agreed to "stay away from kids." (He didn't, and he wasn't shy about it.) Never mind that Terry Garvin was Patterson's childhood friend and Pat knew what he was about, because... Barry Orton accused Patterson and Garvin of groping his genitals during a 1978 car ride in west Texas where he was seated between them, going after him so hard that they tore his pants down the middle and he eventually fled the car in a panic. Ted DiBiase corroborated the story to Dave Meltzer, though he classified it as a "rib." Orton swore to this under oath, as he also did with his claims about Patterson waiting outside the showers while a WWF VP/booker/road agent so he could stare at the wrestlers' genitals. "Karate Kid" Chris Dube accused Patterson of repeatedly making unwanted passes at him while serving as his superior. The "midget wrestler" troupe stopped being booked by the WWF shortly after he and Lord Littlebrook complained about it. Tom Hankins accused Patterson of offering a quid pro quo at a bar to get work as a TV job guy in 1985. Numerous witnesses confirmed that it happened, although some claimed that it was just Patterson joking around. But: 1. It was phrased much more like an actual pass than what you'd imagine a "joke" would be. 2. Hankins was no longer allowed to visit the locker room after rejecting the advance. 3. That doesn't really matter anyway. Lots of people don't do their research and/or get deep into denial that Patterson could have ever done anything wrong and try to justify it by pointing to the fact that yes, he had two accusers who, as best as we can tell, made up their allegations (one admitted it, the other was a longtime con man with a history of blackmailing closeted gay men) and they happened to be the most prominent ones against him. Or try to minimize it by saying the stories were true, but his intent was a "rib" or a "joke." But that doesn't loving matter. Even if that was his intent — and "hey, I was just joking!" is classic predator poo poo regardless — it doesn't change how it impacted other people. And though there are no stories out there that I've ever heard about him being outright predatory after he returned later in 1992, he clearly didn't learn his lesson about what kind of "jokes" were sexual harassment. From Bob Holly's book: "Pat wasn’t a bad guy or anything and we always got on fine, but I probably didn’t do myself any favors with him later in my career. I bent to pick something up and he happened to be there. He said, 'If you bend over and I’m behind you, you’re hosed.' I shot right up and said, 'No, motherfucker, if you touch me, you’re gonna be hosed.' He looked at me as if to say, 'Hey, I was just kidding.' I definitely wasn’t kidding though. All the boys in the locker room couldn’t believe what I’d said because Pat had a lot of stroke." This is not that complicated.
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Pillowpants posted:Where can I read your reporting? If you get the pay wall or otherwise have issues with it, the Business Insider India version has never had a pay wall for some reason and should work fine: https://www.businessinsider.in/poli...ow/78938854.cms A year later, I had a shockingly difficult time getting anyone to bite on a pitch about getting proof that the FBI (and, because they also had a copy, WWE) disregarding a tape that, by their own admission, showed Mel Phillips molesting a ring boy, so I published it myself on Substack: https://babyfacevheel.substack.com/p/wwe-ring-boys-fbi-mel-phillips-videotape My MEL Magazine feature about the INS trying deport Pat Patterson for being gay in the 1960s can be read at this link: https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/pat-patterson-government-witch-hunt If you want to count Jimmy Snuka killing Nancy Argentino as part of Titangate because that's when it first received public scrutiny, then you can read my extensively reported feature about that at MEL as well: https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/jimmy-snuka-girlfriend-nancy-argentino-death For Titangate more broadly, it's less original reporting, but we unlocked the shows we did on the Between The Sheets Patreon about Titangate and made them free for everyone (they're also available for free in our regular feed now): https://www.patreon.com/collection/345983?view=expanded
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Craptacular! posted:Thank you for all the information that definitely moves it from 'probably' to 'well yeah', but for the majority of that it kind of its into what I'm saying was that from the fifties to the end of Reaganism, being gay in large parts of the country was illegal, and in the context of that era you either lived in a big city with a queer scene or you lived essentially in the darkness and frequently did things that were Not Good, and would still be illegal today but also back then your entire existence was illegal. Gay men from that generation often had a reputation/stereotype for unwanted advances and attempted assaults, in large part due to coming of age in a time where you had to break rules because the rules were written so that you died lonely and alone. A good number of men were from that men are/were molesters, but the system at the time was producing molesters. That said, you don't need an act of a legislature to tell you to not be sexually involved with children; that's just some good old human consciousness where what's right and wrong is evident and law only provides specifics.
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Sydney Bottocks posted:I'm sorry, but your last two posts read like you're saying "he was a product of his times" as a way to excuse or rationalize his behavior. He was a man who used his power and influence to extort subordinates for favors in the workplace. That is just wrong, regardless of his sexual preference or the social conditions of the time he grew up in.
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Yeah, it also needs to be stressed that even though Vince was much closer friends with Patterson than he was with Terry Garvin or Mel Phillips, Patterson probably doesn't get brought back if he was nearly as unimportant as they were. The quality of the week to week booking on WWF TV fell off a cliff while Patterson was gone, and there are plenty of people in the business who think that Vince never would have been nearly as successful without Pat's giant wrestling brain propping him up. Phillips was a mediocre ring announcer who was incredibly replaceable on the ring crew. Garvin, though he had decades of wrestling experience including helping out in the office in Kansas City and Amarillo, was basically just interchangeable middle management.
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CopywrightMMXI posted:https://x.com/iamjohnpollock/status/1762131761427882073?s=61&t=XvrQwNe2ohQa_fKBAbwFNg https://twitter.com/gregmep/status/1762195109901140290
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SatoshiMiwa posted:As bad as the NXT reports are i do wonder if OVW and earlier developmental might have even worse stories that haven't gotten out cause wrestling https://twitter.com/IANdrewDiceClay/status/1760443335271981385?t=jF_JSRkf_gLV4I-EVVhcAQ&s=19
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VideoWitch posted:Ah that all makes sense. Thanks for the explanation. But... The complaint in the Janel Grant lawsuit strongly suggests the funds came from a company account. And WWE was a party to the NDA even though "WWE" wasn't officially notified, the general counsel, wasn't aware of it, etc.
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Also in the Helwani interview, Riddle conceded that Vince's settlements, NDAs, and texts were red flags that he's guilty. Riddle, of course, settled the sexual assault lawsuit that Candy Cartwright filed against him. Technically speaking, in the official court record, she filed for a dismissal with prejudice, meaning she couldn't refile. Obviously, there's no real reason for her to dismiss with prejudice unless she got a settlement, but if there was any doubt, Dave Meltzer, who clearly gets fed a lot of stuff from the Riddle camp, reported last year that there was a settlement. YMMV as to if there's also an NDA, but if there's a settlement, her lawyer's statement was “The parties have put this in their past and are focused on the future," and she basically disappeared from social media to live a non-wrestling life. What does that tell you? Even if Riddle claimed in the interview that he's never been party to an NDA. As for texts...he hasn't texted anything close to the level of Vince's poo poo about wanting to see his literal sex slave gang-raped by three Black men, at least that I've seen. But I've also seen texts that directly contradict other things he said in the interview. Like how he makes a reference to Daniella (Sunglass Hut employee with two kids) and claims he thought they "were just having a good time" even though he love bombed the ever-loving poo poo out of her.
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Intruder posted:Riddle knows all about false accusations, but only when he's the accuser
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Well, I and several others got our FOIA responses about Ashley Massaro on Friday evening: https://twitter.com/BabyfacevHeel/status/1764062332261474429 Since this thread is what it is, I probably don't need to go full trigger warning, but the big takeaways are: * The only person who they interviewed who remembered Ashley at all was the Physician Assistant listed on her medical record as having treated her. He recalled a surprising amount of detail, but a couple things jump out, and they're pretty significant. One is that someone else working at the military clinic remarked that she was high, but even having been told this and noticed himself that she was drowsy, he still gave her a pelvic exam. (He said she was complaining of abdominal and pelvic pain.) He said she consented, and the NCIS file doesn't connect these dots, but since he admitted he had good reason to believe she was intoxicated, she may have been unable to consent. This re-contextualizes WWE claiming in court in 2016 that she had been heard complaining of an inappropriate pelvic after getting back from Kuwait. * The treating PA corroborated something pretty significant from Ashley's affidavit: That a panicked Gary Davis (WWE head of PR) started banging on the exam room door asking Ashley if she was OK. This jumps out in large part because it's one of two things that someone who wasn't in the room (Davis) could corroborate about what went on in the room. (The other being Davis finding her naked and wrapped in a quilt.) * The officer in charge of the clinic refused to answer any questions, even with a lawyer present and even with the questions submitted in writing. * Ashley's medical record listed her as being treated 90 minutes away from where she actually was. Who knows why? Anyway, there's a lot more in the article, including how comments from a medical ethics professor about the pelvic exam issue. So please read the whole thing when you get a chance. Especially since the others who have posted anything about it on wrestling sites so far have done such a lovely job.
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Stall_19 posted:So why didn't they identify these people in the first place?
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Majinfoose posted:Physical therapist, but yeah Different guy.
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MassRafTer posted:Maybe the biggest sign of how bad Vince's case is. https://twitter.com/BabyfacevHeel/status/1782941382321070585
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Drakkel posted:Wasn't the whole reason the lawsuit happened because Vince stopped paying the hush money? So how can he argue that she violated the NDA by not doing arbitration that he'd already violated by not paying?
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little munchkin posted:The only smoking gun the public has for jericho is an emoji that was later deleted, in a context where it wasnt clear what the allegation was (according to reddit jericho invited kylie to his hotel room under the guise of a party). Unless Kylie went to management with more than that, theres nothing to investigate. https://twitter.com/IamKylieRae/status/1741038478945886693 If you were thinking of the tweets she liked, she didn't undo those, either. She liked a bunch of tweets that day, but she didn't like them in the order they were tweeted. So a bunch of people didn't scroll down far enough and incorrectly concluded that she un-liked those tweets. I have no problem with anyone saying that the emoji and likes can't really be acted upon, but I do have a problem with people saying poo poo that isn't true and pretending that there aren't deductions that an adult with critical thinking skills should be able to make as to her intent. The fact of the matter is that she decided to reply and didn't debunk the rumors in that reply. Regardless of whatever did or didn't happen, anyone who acts like her intent wasn't obvious is infantilizing her as some smol widdle gurl who didn't know better, and it's gross. We're not mind readers, but we still have working brains. quote:The stuff about an NDA is completely made up though, never been reported anywhere. Just a game of message board telephone where people got it confused with the one from brawl out, just like they thought jungle boy and punk had an nda. You're correct, though, that the rumors, as they've circulated over the last few years, have always been murky as to any kind of specifics. The part that's been 100% consistent is that Jericho invited her to his hotel suite under the guise of it being a party where lots of AEW personnel would be present, only to for her to show up and find Jericho alone. It's not even clear when exactly it's supposed to have happened or if the idea is that AEW was party to a theoretical NDA and/or payoff or not. Also, it seems like everyone's forgotten that Tony Khan refused to answer direct, yes or no questions asking if Jericho had ever been reported and/or investigated for any kind of sexual misconduct claim in AEW. That didn't help! At all! That's a hell of a way to make the fanbase think that it's true. And after hearing about the catcalls Jericho got in Indianapolis, which is not normally the kind of market where insider-y heckling is common/noticeable, it sure seems like it's proliferated a lot more than most realize. Again, none of this is intended as a comment on if it's true. We can't even treat it as 100% that there's an allegation. But I'm sick of people spreading easily-debunked bullshit about what we know has gone down, projecting Nick Hausman's bullshit onto everything else, treating Kylie as an idiot who couldn't have possibly have foreseen how her tweet would be read, etc. Hausman handled it terribly and put Kylie in an awful position as the only woman who had already been linked publicly to any Jericho misconduct rumors. I'm still angry at him about it months later. But while I'd much rather we not be in this weird limbo, anyone who treats it as a total nothing, entirely a creation of Nick Hausman, etc. is not being a serious person.
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a dumb moron posted:One thing to add to your post: IIRC the woman quoted in the original tweet said she did not have any specific Jericho allegations. I don’t know if she heard any whispers though. I feel like a lot of the other stuff is a distraction. At the end of the day, what we know is this: * The rumor was out there soon after it became public that Kylie quit AEW. * Hausman's irresponsible comments unfairly drew attention to Kylie because the rumor that something happened with Jericho that drove her out of AEW was the only relevant public rumor. * When a high-profile engagement account gathered everything they could find that was relevant to what Nick said, including the Vito Thomaselli post, Kylie elected to reply...with a heart emoji, going out of her way to explicitly acknowledge it without debunking it. * Later that day, after her reply caused it to blow up, enough of the crowd at World's End knew to VERY loudly poo poo on Jericho, complete with "NDA" and "KYLIE RAE" chants. At that point, the topic was unavoidable, so it came up at the press conference multiple times, but Tony Khan refused to answer direct yes or no questions about whether or not Jericho had ever been reported and/or investigated for sexual misconduct in AEW. * Fans are still heckling Jericho about it four months later to the point it's noticeable at shows, where crowds have otherwise largely lost interest in him. That's it. Tori walking back something that she vaguetweeted when emotions were running high at the peak of #SpeakingOut is immaterial. The rumor had been public knowledge for something like 8 months by then. Vito's post was much more relevant to Kylie replying. davidbix fucked around with this message at 20:49 on Apr 30, 2024 |
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JUNGLE BOY posted:but isn't the absolute earliest source for the kylie / jericho rumors this guy: He's the original source for the rumor going public. Not that random Twitter account that misinterpreted Vito saying "Chris Jericho's room" as being "locker room" and not the correct "hotel room," which is the more common usage of "X's room" in that kind of context. So, at least publicly, the original source is a longtime Chicago indie wrestler who was outraged at what he had heard from friends in the business and wanted something done about it.
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a dumb moron posted:Oh I'm not trying to muddy anything, I just remember a few months back her tweet was brought up and it had to be clarified that it was not related to any Kylie Rae rumor.
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a dumb moron posted:The "CM Punk is not Mad" episode of the Trish & Sarah Wrestling Podcast had a throwaway line implying their guess that Hausman leaking that was a hit job from Punk, but that doesn't mesh with Bix's findings.
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haunted bong posted:Reminder that they released Enzo Amore, not because of the sexual assault allegations, but because he didn't tell them that he was under investigation.
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Waltman is good people and does more to reach out to wrestlers dealing with addiction issues than most people will ever realize. He's very, very open about how he behaved at the worst of his addictions, has been very reflective and remorseful, and is, as far as I know, the only one person involved who's actually denounced and apologized for the DX as the Nation of Domination blackface skit. He's put a lot of time and effort into getting his poo poo together.
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