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Fork of Unknown Origins posted:That’s a bit more of a Democratic lean than the overall US population but not an extreme difference. Also according to Pew, political affiliation in the U.S. is currently 49D-48R*, so the TikTok demographic is +11% more D and -16% less R, for an overall difference of 26 percent. (Someone correct me if I figured this out wrong.) I'd say that's a notable statistic rather than an "extreme" one or a "bit" of a difference; would you agree? * including "leaners" Willa Rogers fucked around with this message at 21:14 on Apr 19, 2024 |
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golden bubble posted:https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/19/...%20York%20Times That link is still active, and goes to the site of the person who set himself on fire. He even posted an article about setting himself on fire shortly before he set himself on fire: https://theponzipapers.substack.com/p/i-have-set-myself-on-fire-outside quote:I have set myself on fire outside the Trump Trial. It then goes on to explain his personal conspiracy theory at considerable length, but it really has nothing in particular to do with Trump, and the writer doesn't seem particularly partisan at all. He basically just declares that cryptocurrency is a scam and that the US government is run by a bipartisan oligarchy which is faking the entire Democrat vs Republican divide, and then he spends a few pages engaging in the sort of wild free-association theorizing that's so often seen in schizophrenic rants. He believes that Trump and Hillary were secretly friends who only pretended to oppose each other as kayfabe. He also believes that the Simpsons were tools of the criminal oligarchy. Because he believes politics is a big criminal conspiracy, and some politicians and political advisors went to Harvard, Harvard must therefore be part of the criminal conspiracy. And since some Simpsons writers went to Harvard, they must also be part of the criminal conspiracy, and therefore Bart Simpson (along with all other popular media since before WWII) is a secret brainwashing weapon.
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Main Paineframe posted:That link is still active, and goes to the site of the person who set himself on fire. He even posted an article about setting himself on fire shortly before he set himself on fire:
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:I'm more interested in the NYU mob thing He thinks that pretty much every remotely elite university is involved in this national crypto conspiracy of his, which he believes is run by organized crime. He feels that most suicides and murders at NYU were either staged or caused by the government. He even posted an explanation of how he thinks it works, which I'm just going to repost here without any comment on the contents: quote:But why so many deaths? Surely not everybody’s dad colluded to defraud the U.S. government, right? Facts are scarce on many (NYU has not released the names of almost all suicide victims since 2018), but I have a few theories.
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Didn't know that the Inappropriate Comedy Tree went to NYU
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Main Paineframe posted:He thinks that pretty much every remotely elite university is involved in this national crypto conspiracy of his, which he believes is run by organized crime. He feels that most suicides and murders at NYU were either staged or caused by the government. what was his username
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Staluigi posted:what was his username Lmao this is the funniest post in this thread so far this year
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Staluigi posted:what was his username Judging from the dog loving thing, Morally Inept?
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Main Paineframe posted:He thinks that pretty much every remotely elite university is involved in this national crypto conspiracy of his, which he believes is run by organized crime. He feels that most suicides and murders at NYU were either staged or caused by the government. At what point does he cap it off with "The Aristocrats!"?
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Tarezax posted:Judging from the dog loving thing, Morally Inept?
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Willa Rogers posted:Also according to Pew, political affiliation in the U.S. is currently 49D-48R*, so the TikTok demographic is +11% more D and -16% less R, for an overall difference of 26 percent. I thought when you expanded it out past likely or registered voters that the overall US lean was more Democratic than that, but yes you’re right that is a significant difference versus the population, if that 49-48 split is for everyone.
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C. Everett Koop posted:At what point does he cap it off with "The Aristocrats!"? When he set himself on fire
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UAW is making big pushes to try expand at non union plants in the south. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/19/opinion/uaw-southern-republicans-unions.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare Several governors are upset: “They proudly call themselves democratic socialists”
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The VW plant in Tennessee just counted votes and the UAW won in a landslide! https://twitter.com/moreperfectus/status/1781497225484607792 The union narrowly lost votes at the same plant in both 2014 and 2019 so this is a huge swing towards labor.
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*lives in a country literally called the united states* uniting in some sort of collective is bad - so many dumb people in the US's history.
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ixnay posted:The VW plant in Tennessee just counted votes and the UAW won in a landslide! This is great news. Labor membership has shrunk horrifically over the decades, but as more plants join, things will take on a momentum of their own.
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At my government computer toucher job we were part of the Public Servants Union and had amazing benefits still not remotely comparable to what I've seen in the private sector after my contract expired and it still infuriates me how many libertarian adjacent types who were like "Well I don't think we really need the union, my skills would've gotten me these benefits anyways" no they wouldn't have. If they would have, you would've been in the private sector, with less benefits but maybe a higher base salary, idk. I looked at the UNI-7(iirc?) payscale which I would get if I ever re-applied and gotten back in and ways like 10k more than what I'm making now albeit I'm happily in gamedev now which tends to pay less than comparable software engineer roles for similar experience, but I still managed to get a role as a software developer in the private sector for the same salary I had when I exited the gov't computer toucher role.
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There's a reason for the huge overlap between trumpists and people who hate unions. The complete denial of reality in favor of a fiction that depicts themselves as being simultaneously held back by [insert fascist Boogeyman here] but also successful only by their own rightfully advanced place in the social hierarchy is a main ingredient for both. They are libertarian in proportion to how much they can perpetuate all the self deceptions they need to feel like big strong white heroes. They hate all unions except for the police unions. Go figure.
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FLIPADELPHIA posted:There's a reason for the huge overlap between trumpists and people who hate unions. The complete denial of reality in favor of a fiction that depicts themselves as being simultaneously held back by [insert fascist Boogeyman here] but also successful only by their own rightfully advanced place in the social hierarchy is a main ingredient for both. There was also a huge amount of anti-union propaganda that was pervasive among people in manufacturing roles in the 80s and 90s. A lot of offshoring and job losses were blamed on unions. I think it's taken this long for people to finally come around again and realize how much of a crock of poo poo it was and how much unions are in their best interest.
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the next engineered talking point is that unions are why cars are so expensive now, similarly to how they concertedly attempt to make people angry about the price of food by pretending the prices rose because some states dared to marginally enhance the minimum dirt rear end pauper wage for fast food workers
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Staluigi posted:the next engineered talking point is that unions are why cars are so expensive now, similarly to how they concertedly attempt to make people angry about the price of food by pretending the prices rose because some states dared to marginally enhance the minimum dirt rear end pauper wage for fast food workers I mean is this not technically correct? Without off shoring to places with weaker currencies and workers rights or environmental protections (something the Pacific Partnership thing would've worked towards addressing) prices of all kinds of goods would be more expensive; the true cost of most goods is likely significantly higher than what most Americans are used to paying because the price they pay isn't reflecting the true cost of the exploited labour and/or environment which unions would force companies to pass onto consumers (because the legal duty of companies is to satisfy the shareholders demands for infinite unsustainable growth, it is iirc illegal actually for a CEO to propose to the shareholders, "Hey lets be more environmentally sound and sustainable and pay our workers fairly" if doing so would cost them money, or at least this is what some Small Business Owner family friend claimed to me once at a party, maybe DV or someone else knows more). It is probably true that people should be paying more for most goods and foods.
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That’s a lot of words to just say there’s no ethical consumption under capitalism. We have it great here and coming off the slave-labor high we are on is gonna be brutal. God help us if we give machines intelligence because we’ll sure as poo poo enslave them in a heartbeat.
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Nope, that's not how legal fiduciary duty works. Corps aren't required by law to take the short sighted exploitative approach, they do so because it's (speaking very, very, excessively broadly) what fungible investors tend to prefer, and also the best way for CEOs et al to get short term bonuses. It is not hard to defend treating your employees well as a long term beneficial strategy, whereupon you're mostly safe from fiduciary duty lawsuits (if perhaps not from shareholder votes).
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Raenir Salazar posted:I mean is this not technically correct? Without off shoring to places with weaker currencies and workers rights or environmental protections (something the Pacific Partnership thing would've worked towards addressing) prices of all kinds of goods would be more expensive; the true cost of most goods is likely significantly higher than what most Americans are used to paying because the price they pay isn't reflecting the true cost of the exploited labour and/or environment which unions would force companies to pass onto consumers (because the legal duty of companies is to satisfy the shareholders demands for infinite unsustainable growth, it is iirc illegal actually for a CEO to propose to the shareholders, "Hey lets be more environmentally sound and sustainable and pay our workers fairly" if doing so would cost them money, or at least this is what some Small Business Owner family friend claimed to me once at a party, maybe DV or someone else knows more). It depends on margins. If a business is a high margin, if you force higher compensation that can either go to higher prices or lower margins. If it is a low margin business already like car manufacturing is, it has to go to higher prices (or offshoring) In practice executives aren't forced to maximize profit by threat of litigation. Imagine a shareholder suing a Fortune 500 CEO for paying workers "too much" or charging consumers "too little" and succesfully replacing the C-suite or forcing business change. Kind of laughable. What shareholders can do is vote out the board and then have the new board replace the C-suite. In practice that too is difficult because good luck mobilizing Vanguard, BlackRock, pension funds, small individual shareholders, etc. There's an attempt at that happening at Norfolk Southern right now. The CEO after the East Palestine train derailment invested for the benefit of workers, safety, and customers without raising prices enough to cover it (possible at a railroad since they are high margin), and even before that was less aggressive about maximizing profit than the other railroad CEOs. That sent down profits, which sent down the share price, and an activist investor bought a bunch of shares on the cheap and is now trying to replace him.
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Goatse James Bond posted:Nope, that's not how legal fiduciary duty works. Corps aren't required by law to take the short sighted exploitative approach, they do so because it's (speaking very, very, excessively broadly) what fungible investors tend to prefer, and also the best way for CEOs et al to get short term bonuses. Additionally, boards and CEOs actually would prefer to have multiple stakeholders that are considered beyond just shareholders. If employee satisfaction is considered an important metric as well, then it's a lot easier to look at both traditional metrics as well as employee satisfaction and pick whichever looks good. This is why you see silly things like Microsoft putting out infographics about minutes played on Xbox or whatever. No one has any idea what that actually means in terms of how they're doing as a business. Or to put it another way: Matt Levine posted:If the rule is “executives have to maximize profits for shareholders, minimize pollution and maximize employee morale,” then executives and directors have a lot of leeway in measuring their performance. “Ah well our buddy the CEO didn’t make a lot of money for shareholders this year,” the directors can say, “and the pollution is terrible, but surveys show employee satisfaction is up 0.3 points on a 7-point scale, so let’s max out her bonus.”
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Raenir Salazar posted:I mean is this not technically correct? Without off shoring to places with weaker currencies and workers rights or environmental protections (something the Pacific Partnership thing would've worked towards addressing) prices of all kinds of goods would be more expensive; the true cost of most goods is likely significantly higher than what most Americans are used to paying because the price they pay isn't reflecting the true cost of the exploited labour and/or environment which unions would force companies to pass onto consumers (because the legal duty of companies is to satisfy the shareholders demands for infinite unsustainable growth, it is iirc illegal actually for a CEO to propose to the shareholders, "Hey lets be more environmentally sound and sustainable and pay our workers fairly" if doing so would cost them money, or at least this is what some Small Business Owner family friend claimed to me once at a party, maybe DV or someone else knows more). It is not the case that officers of a corp have an obligation to maximize immediate revenue. That notion is the Friedman doctrine; it's not law, and it's notoriously stupid even among executives. I'll not go through the full history here, but in brief GJB is correct. Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 03:23 on Apr 21, 2024 |
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It is also not at all unusual for your typical small business tyrant to be dumb or wrong about things, particularly when it comes to the running of a business. Best to take what they say with a grain of salt.
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Goatse James Bond posted:Nope, that's not how legal fiduciary duty works. Corps aren't required by law to take the short sighted exploitative approach, they do so because it's (speaking very, very, excessively broadly) what fungible investors tend to prefer, and also the best way for CEOs et al to get short term bonuses. The eternal example of Costco, for paying employees well and keeping the dog and drank a buck fifty when every investor would raise that to ten bucks and pay employees less than that if they could.
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https://twitter.com/markrobinsonNC/status/1781378853065076863 Holocaust denier candidate for NC governor is very concerned about antisemitic college students in New York
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lobster shirt posted:how the gently caress is costco stock up over $700 https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/11/business/costco-gold-bars.html
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lobster shirt posted:how the gently caress is costco stock up over $700 They're an incredibly stable business with a loyal customer base and a huge real estate portfolio?
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lobster shirt posted:how the gently caress is costco stock up over $700 Because they have a healthy rear end business model. The only literal changes to my local costco in the past three decades have been. 1: Food court modernization. 2: We added a computer next to the food court you can put orders in on for picking up later like your hot pizza. 3: tiny self check out area shoved to the side of the main set of registers but still has two dedicated staff to it to help customers. They sell good quality stuff in bulk, They don't do weird loving around things with their employees, I have seen some of those employees there since before I was an adult for example. I can still buy food there for about the same price I paid in 2008.
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In this week's version of Boeing sucks: https://twitter.com/MorePerfectUS/status/1780634389946445996 And this week's "weird things keep happening to these Boeing whistleblowers what a coincidence": https://twitter.com/MorePerfectUS/status/1780642585884946903 It would be nice to see them lose some government contracts at the barest minimum over this poo poo Bellmaker fucked around with this message at 13:33 on Apr 21, 2024 |
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