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Man with Hat posted:Where in space though? Let's say an hour time travel, do you end up 67,000 miles into space, 514000 miles into space, 1,3 million miles into space or some other number? I'm sticking with time machines make themselves the center of the universe and everything rotates around them because it's all relative Whoever is smart enough to invent a working time machine also somehow figured out a way to plot time/space coordinates. Don't ask me how, I didn't build the drat thing!
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Man with Hat posted:Where in space though? Earth orbits the sun at 67,100 miles per hour, so if you travel an hour in the past, but at the same physical location, you'd be floating in space 67,100 miles away from the Earth. Barring floating away due to some other gravitational field, the Earth would catch up to you in an hour, and either burn you up on reentry or splatter you against the surface. quote:I'm sticking with time machines make themselves the center of the universe and everything rotates around them because it's all relative
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbesAjP7hLg&pp=ygUVVGVybWluYXRvciB0aGUgc2Vjb25k This is a very silly creation - someone did a stage play of T2 but the dialogue is only pure Shakespeare quotes, with only the proper nouns and pronouns changed. Also the Protomen did the soundtrack and guest star as the SWAT team.
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Wa11y posted:Earth orbits the sun at 67,100 miles per hour, so if you travel an hour in the past, but at the same physical location, you'd be floating in space 67,100 miles away from the Earth. Barring floating away due to some other gravitational field, the Earth would catch up to you in an hour, and either burn you up on reentry or splatter you against the surface. Yeah, Man with Hat is saying that the Earth isn't the only thing moving in the universe. The Sun is orbiting the Milky Way, the Milky Way is moving relative to the neighboring galaxies in our local cluster, every galaxy in the universe is moving relative to each other and the universe itself is expanding. If relative motion is a problem for time travel it's an unimaginably enormous problem, so gently caress it, just handwave it.
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Parkingtigers posted:This was a long suppressed memory. Absolute trashfire in concept and execution. The lyrics are all just about manners and politeness and dealing with social situations... ah yes, the thing we all remember most from Terminator films. yeah, austrian death machine did it better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbtlPCbhVGw
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McSpanky posted:Yeah, Man with Hat is saying that the Earth isn't the only thing moving in the universe. The Sun is orbiting the Milky Way, the Milky Way is moving relative to the neighboring galaxies in our local cluster, every galaxy in the universe is moving relative to each other and the universe itself is expanding. If relative motion is a problem for time travel it's an unimaginably enormous problem, so gently caress it, just handwave it. ITT we develop a working time machine
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Quote-Unquote posted:Holy poo poo that was Dean Norris in the SWAT team? I don't think I've watched this since watching Breaking Bad. Last summer I went to my cottage with some friends and we got rained out so we watched a bunch of movies each night. We realized that every single movie we watched had Dean Norris in it (Starship Troopers, Total Recall, Fist Fight).
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Mister Speaker posted:Last summer I went to my cottage with some friends and we got rained out so we watched a bunch of movies each night. We realized that every single movie we watched had Dean Norris in it (Starship Troopers, Total Recall, Fist Fight). Hold on, Dean Norris is in Starship Troopers? 
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I got an ad for Dean Norris’ restaurant which I guess is near me. You cannot escape this man!!
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Xenomrph posted:Hold on, Dean Norris is in Starship Troopers? He's the guy who orders Rico to administrative punishment and then tears up his discharge request.
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I wonder how many traffic tickets he's gotten out of since he plays all these roles. When he's not looking for porn GIFS anyway
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Watching T3 and I'm already annoyed. This infiltrator robot travelled back in time, arrived IN A CLOTHES SHOP but instead of getting clothes and maybe discretely stealing a nondescript car it walks naked into an intersection and murders a woman in full view of who knows how many cameras then steals her flashy convertible, and almost immediately gets pulled over by the police but it's okay because she can make her boobs big. Except the boob-embigganing also does nothing.
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Quote-Unquote posted:Watching T3 and I'm already annoyed. This infiltrator robot travelled back in time, arrived IN A CLOTHES SHOP but instead of getting clothes and maybe discretely stealing a nondescript car it walks naked into an intersection and murders a woman in full view of who knows how many cameras then steals her flashy convertible, and almost immediately gets pulled over by the police but it's okay because she can make her boobs big. There is a reason they didn't send her back first.
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ImpAtom posted:There is a reason they didn't send her back first. If I remember correctly she's also very vulnerable to magnets. Skynet: aha! I've made the most advanced terminator yet, with boob-embiggening technology! Also Skynet: loving MAGNETS! HOW DO THEY WORK? Edit: oh hey it's MC Gainey as the bouncer for three seconds! Quote-Unquote fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Mar 29, 2024 |
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So in the T3 script it goes into detail about the time machine: it's called the continuum transporter and works by making a wormhole so presumably that also travels through space to the point you want.
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Mar 29, 2024 21:21
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This crane chase sequence is really, really good though. All-time excellent action set piece, holy poo poo.
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Jimbone Tallshanks posted:So in the T3 script it goes into detail about the time machine: it's called the continuum transporter and works by making a wormhole so presumably that also travels through space to the point you want. I remember reading a draft of the Terminator 3 script (or maybe someone's review of a Terminator 3 draft) that featured IMO the coolest T1 reference: Arnold tells the Claire Danes character that he's going somewhere and starts walking off, and she asks him "Will you be back?" Arnold stops for a second (maybe gives her an inscrutable glance), then continues on his way without further response. I was looking forward to that moment when I first watched it, but we got multiple groanworthy, super hammy and ostentatious "I'll be back"s instead. Yeesh!
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Well, T3 wasn't very good. You know when people say that something is "better than the sum of its parts"? I feel like this the opposite. It has loads of little bits that should be excellent but overall it just doesn't work. Nick Stahl and Clare Danes are good, though I've seen them do better in other things (Stahl in particular was really good in Carnivale, and it's a real shame that he had some major breakdown and vanished around 15 years ago). Kristanna Loken does a decent job, though nobody was ever going to live up to Robert Patrick (and again, I've seen her do better in other stuff, like Burn Notice). I like the idea of John Connor living off the grid and having to rob a vet clinic in the middle of the night after he injures himself because he can't risk going to a hospital and thus ending up in some records Skynet might be able to trace. That makes sense. Skynet going after Connor's lieutenants? Sure, why not. Sarah dying, but managing to cling to life until just after the original judgement day date? That's actually a reasonable way to do a third terminator film when Linda Hamilton doesn't want to be in it. Fine. The crane chase is loving brilliant. I think it's probably the best extended action sequence in any of the Terminator films, even, that's how much I think it rules. Watching T2 the other day I forgot how short the LA river chase actually is, even though it's extremely exciting. Buuuuut I think this is where they spent most of the budget because holy gently caress so much of this film looks really cheap. Loads of the sets are barely decorated at all and this is really poorly disguised by having only a couple of camera angles focusing on more or less the same spot. The TX is dumb, and not just because of the utterly stupid intro I mentioned before. It has this super plasma weapon thing built into its arm that it uses a couple of times to do insane amounts of damage but it just kinda throws things around and punches stuff. And the bit where it carries the really bad looking Arnie-dummy like a battering ram and runs through a bunch of walls looks terrible. In fact, a lot of the effects in this film look worse than T2, which came out 12 years earlier. This is especially noticeable in the brief glimpses of the future war stuff, where omg there are like 20 terminators on the screen at the same time except they're all repeating the same animations as each other and it's somehow incredibly boring. More than anything, T3 just seems to lurch from setpiece to setpiece with tiny, uninteresting bits of exposition in between. Remember in T2 when John had his sudden "we're not going to make it, are we? People, I mean" moment that was surprisingly moving and introspective for a kid that had just had his entire world upended? Instead we deal with John whining about how he never wanted this, and the dumb plot twist of "actually it was your future wife, who is this woman right here that currently hates you because you just destroyed her entire life, that reprogrammed me so I obey her now. Also you die before this happens." And all the while John has to explain the plot of the first two films to Clare Danes, because it has been 12 years since the previous film. I do love the ending of this film though. I wish the franchise had run with it, because when I first saw this in the cinema my mind was blown. It's like Empire Strikes Back "holy poo poo, the bad guys won?! I need to see what happens next!" And while Star Wars had a slightly damp fart with Return of the Jedi, Terminator went on to completely poo poo not only its pants, but shat on everything as if Judgement Day featured nukes that spread nuclear poo.
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Man with Hat posted:What, is this extended cut only? I could have sworn I remembered that scene from my VCR viewings as a kid and that was not Extended Cut. The janitor does get blasted in the theatrical release of T2, which was incidentally my first R-rated movie and my dad took me to see it when I was 9. I learned later that the guy playing the hallway janitor apparently won an MTV contest to get the part in the movie or something, which tracks with how MTV used to be actually pretty cool
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ChairmanMauzer posted:He's the guy who orders Rico to administrative punishment and then tears up his discharge request. Pretty sure that is Walter White's brother in law
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There was no need for T3. And the premise of it (that Judgement day would happen no matter what) is kinda insulting to the plot of T2. Makes the sacrifices that the Connors/Uncle Bob made seem pretty meaningless. oh god I'm posting about Terminator canon on a Friday night oo I've wasted my life
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I'm gonna watch and post about all the terminator films and you can't stop me! unless, you know, I get banned or probated or threadbanned or something in which case I guess you can. But I'm gonna watch Salvation, Genysis and Dark Fate anway! and I'm gonna have a really loving bad time because those films suck!
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Quote-Unquote posted:I'm gonna watch and post about all the terminator films and you can't stop me! unless, you know, I get banned or probated or threadbanned or something in which case I guess you can. But I'm gonna watch Salvation, Genysis and Dark Fate anway! and I'm gonna have a really loving bad time because those films suck! see you in like 16 hours. Hope you had a good time
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Mumpy Puffinz posted:see you in like 16 hours. Hope you had a good time I'm busy for a few days so I won't have time to watch the remaining films straight away. And you know full loving well that i'm going to have a really bad time watching Salvation, Genysis and Dark Fate.
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Ginette Reno posted:There was no need for T3. And the premise of it (that Judgement day would happen no matter what) is kinda insulting to the plot of T2. Makes the sacrifices that the Connors/Uncle Bob made seem pretty meaningless. Dark Fate was a far better T2 sequel*. It also dumpsters the entirety T2, but it does it in an ambitious, stylish, fangorious and direct way before it even gets to the title card, and then basically makes its own terminator AU to dick around in instead of making GBS threads up the close to perfect closed loop of T1/2. *this is a low bar
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Malcolm Excellent posted:The T2 stuntacular at Universal kicked serious rear end Really glad I got to see that before it shut down.
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Quote-Unquote posted:I'm busy for a few days so I won't have time to watch the remaining films straight away. And you know full loving well that i'm going to have a really bad time watching Salvation, Genysis and Dark Fate. yeah, they suck, Salvation was ok, because of the acting, but the movie sucks
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The Harvester attack in Salvation was pretty cool. I also liked the Rev-9's ability to mimic humans in order to infiltrate, all the way down to using sarcasm and humor. Dark Fate wasn't a great movie though, to say the least.
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Quote-Unquote posted:I do love the ending of this film though. I wish the franchise had run with it, because when I first saw this in the cinema my mind was blown. It's like Empire Strikes Back "holy poo poo, the bad guys won?! I need to see what happens next!" Terminator Salvation follows directly from T3. It even carries over upgraded versions of the T-1 robots (the treaded ones with the miniguns) from T3. Bryce Dallas Howard plays Kate Brewster. I like all of the Terminator movies, in their own way. T1 and 2 are unimpeachable, but I think all of them bring something interesting to the table and have their own cool action moments. Zugzwang posted:The Harvester attack in Salvation was pretty cool. The Harvester toy from the Salvation toyline is huge and awesome. It’s scaled properly with the smaller 3.75” characters. I had to pay through the nose to get mine on the secondary market because it barely saw retail release, but I love it. 
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Malcolm Excellent posted:The T2 stuntacular at Universal kicked serious rear end https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeXd9fFtBW8 is it this one? id only ever seen short clips of the audience segments and the T-1 million, I was curious how many here had got to go on it.
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Xenomrph posted:Terminator Salvation follows directly from T3. It even carries over upgraded versions of the T-1 robots (the treaded ones with the miniguns) from T3. Bryce Dallas Howard plays Kate Brewster. I haven't seen Salvation since it came out in the cinema. I remember the only bit I liked was this tiny snippet of silhouetted humans watching over atrocities.
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If a Terminator film came out this year you could have a Terminator being sent back to present day to kill a 20 year old Kyle Reese
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Genisys is a bummer because it has a lot of fun ideas and they don’t really come together super well. Young Sarah Connor is a Terminator terminator and is whipping rear end at keeping them at bay, but then they gotta time travel to the future and something something iPhones and Facebook Dark Fate is probably the best of the films after T2, low bar as it is, and does some good stuff with exploring the psyche of Terminators sort of following what T2 did, and I think stepping up stakes with “there are multiple Terminators on scene at once” is a better raise than T3’s “what if the T-1000 was mechanical instead of liquid” Unrelated to that, I took a class on science fiction in college, and the professor bailed like a week before the semester, so the TA taught the course. Terminator and T2 were part of the material (dope) but the instructor kept referring to Arnold as the T-100 and I corrected him in both the T1 and T2 lectures and he still put T-100 on the exam. He was not a very good instructor. Good class, though. Got exposed to some Eastern European sci-fi from that class
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I used to dislike T3 but, these days I'm actually kinda fond of it. It's the last gasp of the old style of movies in the style of the originals, honest action movies with practical effects, shot on location etc. Meanwhile all the other sequels are just confused mess with awful CGI visuals on top that try to look like the popular movie du jour. I suppose the contrast between the solid craftsmanship of T3 (despite the crap script) and the continuing enshittification of the sequels really drove home how much we've lost in cinema in general. Also, world-building is poison and all the latter sequels try to use world-building as their hook. steinrokkan fucked around with this message at 09:20 on Mar 30, 2024 |
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SidneyIsTheKiller posted:I remember reading a draft of the Terminator 3 script (or maybe someone's review of a Terminator 3 draft) that featured IMO the coolest T1 reference: Arnold tells the Claire Danes character that he's going somewhere and starts walking off, and she asks him "Will you be back?" Arnold stops for a second (maybe gives her an inscrutable glance), then continues on his way without further response. both versions suck in dark fate they do something very similar to the one you wanted though arnie is going to leave his house and then he sees his own sunglasses sitting on a table, so he stops and looks at them, then picks them up, and after a moment puts them back down and walks out I hated it
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steinrokkan posted:I used to dislike T3 but, these days I'm actually kinda fond of it. It's the last gasp of the old style of movies in the style of the originals, honest action movies with practical effects, shot on location etc. Meanwhile all the other sequels are just confused mess with awful CGI visuals on top that try to look like the popular movie du jour. I suppose the contrast between the solid craftsmanship of T3 (despite the crap script) and the continuing enshittification of the sequels really drove home how much we've lost in cinema in general. I rewatched T3 because of the thread and it's not nearly as bad as I remembered it. It's interesting how they completely missed what made T2 so good (they did not try to make another T1, they made something new because another T1 would never live up to the first one) and just tried to make another T2 but more and failed spectacularly. Had T3 come out before T2 it wouldn't have been so bad, I think. The crane scene is also a Fast & Furious 8 ish action scene 15 years early which is cool as hell. The ending of it with dropping the crane down a manhole is such Dom Toretto thing to do lol.
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