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syntaxfunction posted:Those are bad souls, so they don't get reincarnated is the cop out answer is guess, which is both lame *and* dumb as an answer. I read this as "they get reincarnated as cops" at first.
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The Bible posted:I read this as "they get reincarnated as cops" at first. Some people believe that animals get souls as practice before being reincarnated as a human, so that's possible
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The Bible posted:Why assume souls are composed of matter? I was adding to his conjecture, I actually would not tend to think they are made of matter, nor quantum. There's plenty we dont know obviously; so a personally spiritual answer is probably better than trying to figure out the mechanics of it.
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Pontificating rear end posted:so a personally spiritual answer is probably better than trying to figure out the mechanics of it. Not really. There's no difference between this and outright fantasy.
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The Bible posted:Not really. There's no difference between this and outright fantasy. Whats yo fan-ta-ta-see
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Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:Whats yo fan-ta-ta-see Man I love old luda
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The Bible posted:Not really. There's no difference between this and outright fantasy. Believing in a spiritual soul is a fantasy? You really think a person dies forever and there is nothingness for all infinity (even though there is actually provably somethingness for all infinity)? Call me the quantum soul guy, but I'm guessing what you believe is a nihilistic oversimplification mostly influenced by conventional physics?
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Pontificating rear end posted:Believing in a spiritual soul is a fantasy? You really think a person dies forever and there is nothingness for all infinity (even though there is actually provably somethingness for all infinity)? There's absolutely no reason to believe otherwise.
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Apr 18, 2024 10:09
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Pontificating rear end posted:Believing in a spiritual soul is a fantasy? You really think a person dies forever and there is nothingness for all infinity (even though there is actually provably somethingness for all infinity)? Call me the quantum soul guy, but I'm guessing what you believe is a nihilistic oversimplification mostly influenced by conventional physics? Yes
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Pontificating rear end posted:Believing in a spiritual soul is a fantasy? You really think a person dies forever and there is nothingness for all infinity (even though there is actually provably somethingness for all infinity)? Call me the quantum soul guy, but I'm guessing what you believe is a nihilistic oversimplification mostly influenced by conventional physics? Yeah this seems like a bigger stretch than the alternative. With just a little brain damage a person can vanish forever, to say nothing of actual death...
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No one does or is reincarnated, we move on to the next dimension where we're all butts. If you don't agree it's probably because you're just prefer a nihilistic oversimplification, versus a thing I can't proof. The onus of proof is on the people who doubt me. Sure, you have evidence that nothing happens after you die by citing all the people that died and then nothing happened, but what evidence do you have to disprove my butt-person theory? None, that's right. Making butt-people really a valid logical option. Checkmate, atheists.
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This butt theory makes sense because butts exist so how can people not become butts? It's solid logic.
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We're already part-butt in this dimension, so clearly we've been made in the Maker's image.
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you think when they retire a megathread and start a new one, that thread is born with memories from the old one?
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Only for those who didn't reach posting nirvana
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Pontificating rear end posted:Believing in a spiritual soul is a fantasy? You really think a person dies forever and there is nothingness for all infinity (even though there is actually provably somethingness for all infinity)? Call me the quantum soul guy, but I'm guessing what you believe is a nihilistic oversimplification mostly influenced by conventional physics? It isn't pretty, but given what we currently know, this would seem to be the case. I'll change my mind if presented good, solid evidence otherwise, but yeah, you are just engaging in pure wishful thinking. You don't like the idea of a universe in which you will someday completely cease to exist, but your personal distaste for that idea does not make it any less likely to be true. It certainly doesn't make the Woo you are spouting any more likely to be true. Do you really not see that you're just completely making poo poo up with absolutely no verifiable details at all? The Bible fucked around with this message at 02:37 on Apr 19, 2024 |
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The real fantasy is believing in a consistent self tbh
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I have a message from the other side! "Faaaaaaaaaaart"
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Pontificating rear end posted:Believing in a spiritual soul is a fantasy? You really think a person dies forever and there is nothingness for all infinity (even though there is actually provably somethingness for all infinity)? Call me the quantum soul guy, but I'm guessing what you believe is a nihilistic oversimplification mostly influenced by conventional physics? Too far imo. It was the conventional physics line that did it. I'd have gone with "science communicators" or "youtube physics videos" or something less on the nose. At least, that's what I believe.
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The Bible posted:It certainly doesn't make the Woo you are spouting any more likely to be true. Do you really not see that you're just completely making poo poo up with absolutely no verifiable details at all? I didnt make anything up, you expect me to provide evidence of the soul with cited sources on the somethingawful forums, seriously bros? My entire argument literally fell back to "this is all unprovable so believe whatever you want." You guys know nothing more than I do, and the "evidence" everyone ignores is a pervasive infinite somethingness. Even the emptiest vacuums of space are filled with something. I'm not telling myself this to feel better; this life is trash and dying forever and all infinity would honestly be an eye-rollingly expected conclusion after spending an entire life slapping around in the mud with a bunch of tiny-brained know-it-all cosmic horrors on garbage planet.
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You don't get to say people can believe whatever they want while also calling a belief you don't like a "nihilistic oversimplification" it's like saying "all flavours of icecream are good, but chocolate is for people who don't know what flavour is" lmao
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Devils Affricate posted:Who are they reincarnated from? If it's like Mike Tyson or something you're hosed against even just a few of them. Mike Tyson isn't dead, so these 3 year olds running around with duplicates of his soul are pretty troubling, existentially and metaphysically.
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Disco Pope posted:Mike Tyson isn't dead, so these 3 year olds running around with duplicates of his soul are pretty troubling, existentially and metaphysically. mystes fucked around with this message at 13:39 on Apr 19, 2024 |
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syntaxfunction posted:You don't get to say people can believe whatever they want while also calling a belief you don't like a "nihilistic oversimplification" it's like saying "all flavours of icecream are good, but chocolate is for people who don't know what flavour is" lmao In this case the nihilistic oversimplification is literally nothing. Literally nothing happens when you die. On the other hand, "believing whatever you want" is what everyone in this thread is doing, while condemning it.
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Ah yes, the "built different" hypothesis, very solid, very good. PS no one else is saying believe what you want while condemning it they're just saying you're dumb lol
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I asked our 3 year old what she was in a past life, and she said "A BABY!" very adamantly seems reasonable; preteen mortality rates being what they have been for most of human history, lots of people have probably just been babies over and over and over
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Pontificating rear end posted:In this case the nihilistic oversimplification is literally nothing. Literally nothing happens when you die. How is that a "nihilistic oversimplification?"
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Every time I go to sleep or get put under I am immediately transported to God and we hang out and chat. She is pretty cool actually. Anyhow if this doesn't happen to you and you just wake up after several missing hours, you just might be a soulless automaton, sorry!
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Pontificating rear end posted:I didnt make anything up, you expect me to provide evidence of the soul with cited sources on the somethingawful forums, seriously bros? My entire argument literally fell back to "this is all unprovable so believe whatever you want." You guys know nothing more than I do, and the "evidence" everyone ignores is a pervasive infinite somethingness. Even the emptiest vacuums of space are filled with something. 
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If you believe in aliens, then throw something like a quadrillion more souls into the reincarnation pot. Or is there some kind of planet exclusive reincarnation path?
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You have to unlock aliens by being a faithful Mormon during at least one of your reincarnation stages
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Sceptics my rear end. Been here for 22 years while holding the insane rear end belief that there's a rogue, unconventional physics that the universe really operates by without being well known as the crackpot "secret physics goon"?
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When you eat an orange, where does the flavour go? It's nihilistic to think the flavour is just gone when the universe is infinite.
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My people tell the story of flavor town, where wll flavours may go after they depart our imperfect bland world.
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The one thing I’m pretty sure of is that we all turn into compost eventually, in some form or another. And compost is generally pretty cool because it helps new things grow. I dunno, I heard a story on the radio last week about people having family members composted instead of buried or cremated, and it seemed like they were just kinda skipping a step or whatever. But it seemed to make some folks feel more connected to their dead loved ones because they could sit by some plants fed by the compost of their dead dad or whatever. Apparently my great grandma wanted to be cremated and have her ashes spread around her favorite rose bush; I guess it’s kinda the same thing. Circle of life, etc.
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Ars Arcanum posted:The one thing I’m pretty sure of is that we all turn into compost eventually, in some form or another. And compost is generally pretty cool because it helps new things grow. 
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Similar, but they literally just compost the body. So then you can have your descendants or whoever grow whatever corpse-nuts, etc. they want!
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but then the weirdos who made biodegradable burial pods don't get paid 
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