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The Utah New York FOOTBALL Giants?
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# ? May 7, 2024 17:55 |
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# ? May 19, 2024 15:30 |
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I'd rather pay a little to Travis Green than a lot to Craig Berube honestly. Berube isn't bad but he's a very generic NHL coach, which is not something that's going to make any difference in Ottawa. Green is bad, which in Ottawa, what the hell, it'll improve their lottery odds at least.
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# ? May 7, 2024 17:56 |
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https://twitter.com/sungarrioch/status/1787859939219681395
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# ? May 7, 2024 17:58 |
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If the NHL is rigging lotteries, Celebrini will go to Utah. I don't think they are, though*. They probably would have made sure the Red Wings actually won one. *except 2005
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# ? May 7, 2024 17:59 |
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BRAKE FOR MOOSE posted:If the NHL is rigging lotteries, Celebrini will go to Utah. Hell to the no. If they're going to rig lotteries they're going to do it for teams the TV networks want to see lots of. The "sorry about lightly punishing you for sheltering a rapist" angle is what I talked about above that I do (unfortunately) believe that's real, but it's also about the Blackhawks were NBC's co-favorite team alongside the Penguins for years and years, and the league will make more money as a whole if they're back making deep playoff runs.
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# ? May 7, 2024 18:03 |
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Anyway Berube was never going to go to Ottawa, he was just trying to get an offer to goose the price Toronto ends up paying him.
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# ? May 7, 2024 18:05 |
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Pretty big indictment of the NHL that they can't find anybody to own their hockey teams that actually has money
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# ? May 7, 2024 18:12 |
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BRAKE FOR MOOSE posted:If the NHL is rigging lotteries, Celebrini will go to Utah. I don't think they are, though*. They probably would have made sure the Red Wings actually won one. Nah, if 05 was rigged, Rangers would have been the beneficiary NHL didn't start rigging stuff until after McDavid
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# ? May 7, 2024 18:23 |
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Koopa Kid posted:Pretty big indictment of the NHL that they can't find anybody to own their hockey teams that actually has money I don't think it's that they can't find owners with money, the problem is that the team is in Ottawa and isn't going to make the new owner a big pile of money like it would in another market. Really, even Ryan Reynolds group got less and less interested the further into the process they got, and they bought a football club in Wales of all places (this is a joke about no one wanting to go to Wales). The ownership group in Seattle does spend money, they just aren't really good at knowing where to spend it.
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# ? May 7, 2024 18:33 |
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Jamwad Hilder posted:I think I'd like to see San Jose win the lottery. Sure they nakedly tanked and all, but this is the first stretch in like 20 years they've really been a bad team and they seem to be going about the rebuild the right way, plus Celebrini is kiiiind of a hometown player if you squint. He played for the Jr. Sharks while his dad was director of sports medicine for the Golden State Warriors. More importantly it'd be a team that hasn't already had a top of top-5 picks in recent history, and it's not the Blackhawks. Yeah, I would like if the Sharks won it. Columbus is the other team I'd be okay with. I don't mind Anaheim as a team, but their cupboard seems pretty stocked with prospects right now.
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# ? May 7, 2024 18:42 |
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Koopa Kid posted:Pretty big indictment of the NHL that they can't find anybody to own their hockey teams that actually has money I think its just most owners dont think coaching is important for some reason. Remember when Ovechkin and the Caps finally won a cup under Barry Trotz and Leonsis didnt want to give him a raise and hired Reirden instead
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# ? May 7, 2024 18:49 |
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Jhet posted:I don't think it's that they can't find owners with money, the problem is that the team is in Ottawa and isn't going to make the new owner a big pile of money like it would in another market. Really, even Ryan Reynolds group got less and less interested the further into the process they got, and they bought a football club in Wales of all places (this is a joke about no one wanting to go to Wales). On the other hand, the Coyotes werent paying hotels The Dirty Burger posted:I think its just most owners dont think coaching is important for some reason. Remember when Ovechkin and the Caps finally won a cup under Barry Trotz and Leonsis didnt want to give him a raise and hired Reirden instead I guess it is true that sums that feel like a rounding error for a teams overall budget can still mean a lot to ownership, the difference between a good coach salary and a cheap one is probably what, a couple million? But I guess most see coaches more like normal guys relative to the athletes that make the big bucks.
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# ? May 7, 2024 18:57 |
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The Dirty Burger posted:I think its just most owners dont think coaching is important for some reason. Remember when Ovechkin and the Caps finally won a cup under Barry Trotz and Leonsis didnt want to give him a raise and hired Reirden instead Coaching is like goaltending, it's pretty fungible among the ~20-25 guys that are the best in the world at it, but if you don't have a good-enough one it's really painful. What's harder to understand is why Jon Cooper, who is very obviously the best hockey coach in the world (or at least has been for the past decade), isn't making like $15M a year somewhere. A truly great coach is worth a lot more than that to a franchise and there is no cap on coach salaries.
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# ? May 7, 2024 19:17 |
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Im worried that Berube would bury young players in favor of mediocre vets the same way Lindy did
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# ? May 7, 2024 19:21 |
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That's what almost every coach does.
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# ? May 7, 2024 19:21 |
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The Dirty Burger posted:I think its just most owners dont think coaching is important for some reason. Remember when Ovechkin and the Caps finally won a cup under Barry Trotz and Leonsis didnt want to give him a raise and hired Reirden instead Hey if you're gonna pay big money on a coach how are you going to afford to give out four million a year forever to Korpisalo? I shouldn't throw stones though given the Pens are sextupling down on their coach who hasn't done anything notable in six years
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# ? May 7, 2024 19:28 |
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Nah, if 05 was rigged, Rangers would have been the beneficiary Edmonton ruined hockey for everyone.
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# ? May 7, 2024 19:32 |
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https://twitter.com/spelunky_/status/1787917174054494458/photo/1
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# ? May 7, 2024 20:02 |
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Good to know Chicago didnt win at least.
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# ? May 7, 2024 20:16 |
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I must have already forgot the Caps made the playoffs because my reaction was to get annoyed they weren't in that list.
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# ? May 7, 2024 20:25 |
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The highest pick the Coyotes ever had was #3 so Utah is already an improvement at #2.
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# ? May 7, 2024 20:49 |
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Chicago having the second best odds is very concerning
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# ? May 7, 2024 21:01 |
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Did the NHL really just accidentally tweet out the whole draft lottery winning order before it happens tonight?
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# ? May 7, 2024 21:03 |
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Cartoon Man posted:Did the NHL really just accidentally tweet out the whole draft lottery winning order before it happens tonight? It was Buccigross lol but now they are walking it back and saying its just a rehearsal
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# ? May 7, 2024 21:06 |
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This happens every year, somebody posts a picture of the board during rehearsals and twitter goes nuts.
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# ? May 7, 2024 21:06 |
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Yeah I was about to say, I'm pretty certain I've seen this a few times before over the years. They never match up.
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# ? May 7, 2024 21:07 |
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its funny that the two new coaching hires of the cycle are Lindy Ruff and Travis Green. really going out of the comfort zone on these ones so far, fellas
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# ? May 7, 2024 21:20 |
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Draw hasn't happened yet I believe Does sportsurge have a stream of the results typically??
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# ? May 7, 2024 21:43 |
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https://x.com/buccigross/status/1787924734937551285?s=46
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# ? May 7, 2024 21:52 |
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https://twitter.com/AnaheimDucks/status/1787918540999377058 lol
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# ? May 7, 2024 21:59 |
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It's obviously fake. Chicago isn't #1
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# ? May 7, 2024 22:12 |
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Furnaceface posted:Edmonton ruined hockey for everyone. Speaking as an Isles fan, yes. Yes they did.
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# ? May 7, 2024 22:37 |
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I really hope the Sharks get it. They've always been a fun, mostly non-evil franchise with great fans. San Jose/Silicon Valley/San Fran is obviously among the core epicenters of evil activity on Earth, but Celebrini sounds like a perfect guy for them to build around, and Lord do they need it. Chicago would be awful. If NJ gets it I think we'll see some mindboggling "Hischier + Nemec for Quinn Hughes" type deal which would be fun but god drat
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# ? May 7, 2024 22:41 |
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Travis Green got a 4-year contract lol
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# ? May 7, 2024 22:44 |
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DO YALL WANT A BOXC posted:I really hope the Sharks get it. They've always been a fun, mostly non-evil franchise with great fans. San Jose/Silicon Valley/San Fran is obviously among the core epicenters of evil activity on Earth, but Celebrini sounds like a perfect guy for them to build around, and Lord do they need it. Chicago would be awful. If NJ gets it I think we'll see some mindboggling "Hischier + Nemec for Quinn Hughes" type deal which would be fun but god drat Always liked the Sharks because teal is a cool color and Arturs Irbe had great pads
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# ? May 7, 2024 22:47 |
The Dirty Burger posted:Travis Green got a 4-year contract lol when you get a chance to lock up your runner-up to a reasonable contract, you have to take it
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# ? May 7, 2024 22:48 |
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What time is the lotto? 7:30?
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# ? May 7, 2024 22:52 |
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Honestly I wouldn't mind Chicago getting it. Now hear me out. Chicago is obviously evil and undeserving. However, with the new rules they'd be ineligible to win the lottery for a few years after winning it this year, and that would mean no chance of them getting Gavin McKenna. Celebrini looks good but not like a world breaker or anything, so if Chicago does win it, whatever.
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# ? May 7, 2024 22:53 |
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Celebrini is absolutely on the Matthews/Stamkos/Tavares A-tier of almost certain Hall of Famers if injuries don't derail them. I don't think the evidence is yet there that McKenna is on the Crosby/McDavid S-tier. If I wanted to help Chicago as much as possible I'd give them Celebrini with no hesitation
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# ? May 7, 2024 22:58 |
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# ? May 19, 2024 15:30 |
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:What time is the lotto? 7:30? 6:30 pm ET
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# ? May 7, 2024 22:59 |