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Danger posted:The campus poo poo is really heartening and all but what I'm really stoked for is watching as this thread breaks the mega- barrier and becomes insular around a specific set of posters whose outsize time spent posting creates some sort of celebrity microcosm and feeds into a spiral of real life derangement that ends up with a multitude of posters defending a thread superstar for like braining a cavapoo with a brick.
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titty_baby_ posted:It's worth noting there's 3 Cal Polys (idk why) and Cal Poly Humboldt is the one with the cop bonking video & where they're still protesting. if there was only one it would be a uni
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My brother's at UT Austin right now, wonder if he's protesting. Crazy poo pooOhtori Akio posted:the stuff down in austin is nuts. anything abbot doesnt like thats within spitting distance of the capitol gets pwned lol, it wasnt even a particularly dug in protest Yup, not surprised at all with this reaction from Abbott. Pwning the big cities is par for the course for the state government, they loving hate Austin my_custom_username has issued a correction as of 15:08 on Apr 25, 2024 |
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Danger posted:The campus poo poo is really heartening and all but what I'm really stoked for is watching as this thread breaks the mega- barrier and becomes insular around a specific set of posters whose outsize time spent posting creates some sort of celebrity microcosm and feeds into a spiral of real life derangement that ends up with a multitude of posters defending a thread superstar for like braining a cavapoo with a brick. havent seen anyone create a rule against it yet
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A sad little fact to put things into perspective, a Gallup poll taken right after the Kent State shootings showed that the majority of Americans (~60%) thought the students were to blame for the shooting. Only about 10% blamed the National Guard
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my_custom_username posted:A sad little fact to put things into perspective, a Gallup poll taken right after the Kent State shootings showed that the majority of Americans (~60%) thought the students were to blame for the shooting. Only about 10% blamed the National Guard They're right. School is for learning. These protestors are disrupting the order and peace necessary for other students to get what they paid for.
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Son of Sorrow posted:They're right. School is for learning. These protestors are disrupting the order and peace necessary for other students to get what they paid for. School is for fun and taking a stand!
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my_custom_username posted:School is for fun and taking a stand! This isn't a movie. Real people's lives and careers are on the line.
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my_custom_username posted:A sad little fact to put things into perspective, a Gallup poll taken right after the Kent State shootings showed that the majority of Americans (~60%) thought the students were to blame for the shooting. Only about 10% blamed the National Guard one of the videos they make you watch during freshman orientation has an interview with one of the students who got shot talking about how her father told her "well everyone else deserved it" faculty is joining in on these protests in a way that they never did during vietnam so i think these will have of a less polarizing effect
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sending my energy to support these kids and them doing good work
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Son of Sorrow posted:Students should stick to studying and leave politics to the adults. All this is doing is giving the fascists an excuse. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYpJ37ulsnk
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Why the students' heart is in the right place but protest without class consciousness can only take them so far: A bit of a curveball, look at the limits of protests informed by morality alone when they are captured by the Republicans instead of the Democrats. Obvious and implicit racism aside, many of the things the Moral Majority demanded in the 70's and 80's are things many people would like: family life, the ability of people to provide for themselves (a charitable interpretation of their case against welfare), a world where even unwanted children can have a good future (ditto their moral outrage at abortion), and obviously the moral case against crime and drugs. There was a strong moral case that things needed to change in America. They weren't wrong in the material conditions they observed. They weren't wrong in being upset by them. Where they failed (again, racism aside) was that they lacked class analysis. They saw an America gripped by all of those moral problems listed above. Here's the thing: those are all symptoms of poverty. By devoting their moral energy to the Republicans, these people made every single one of those issues worse, often much worse. Everything they supported to combat the problem of drugs slammed the accelerator on why people use drugs in the first place, or, as felons, have to make their living in the illegal economy. Everything they did to "strengthen the family" by targeting single mothers and cutting welfare, very obviously made things much worse. We know that in survey after survey for 60 years African Americans express more of a desire for lifelong marriages, raising children in a family, even showing strong support for waiting to have children until after marriage! That's amazing, right? That should be fantastic news! But, without class consciousness, the religious right interpreted the lack of those things as indicative of, to put it very mildly, African American "culture" or "immorality", which just means race. So, they supported policies that further immiserated them and made the issues worse. For instance, decrying single mothers is at complete odds with the mass incarceration of African American men and the destruction of the industrial economy that provided stable middle class homes to African Americans (which every survey says they desire, and always have: steady, legal, work, that can provide for a family). The idea that African Americans prefer their current social conditions, which are immoral, is absurd. It's immoral what's been done to them (by capitalism) not what they're doing. (Or rather, of course people become immoral when they live in Hell, essentially.) That's the problem with morality as the only frame of reference, where morality's greatest concern is not the greatest evil - the systemic evils of capitalism. Now, returning again to Israel, morality only analysis does work, because stopping a genocide, ceasing bombing, abolishing a prison camp, a state for a displaced nation, restitution, each of the moral resolutions also brings about a material result. So again, in that narrow case, I think it's fine. The problem is that the cause of America supporting and arming Israel would still go unresolved. America would still be immoral even if these specific, immoral actions ceased, and there'd be no reason to think they wouldn't happen again, elsewhere. The cause can't be understood in moral terms, because and this has always halted people, no nation proclaims itself to be unabashedly evil or immoral, and nobody wants to fully believe that of their own country, so it must be some people, or some policies, that are causing everything to be bad, and if things were just reformed, America could return to being America The Good, or the Shining City on the Hill or whatever. Well, obviously we know that's not true, but that's because we have identified a material cause, not a moral one. We're not stuck at thinking this is evil lurking in the hearts of some people in a system that is basically good. DJJIB-DJDCT has issued a correction as of 15:43 on Apr 25, 2024 |
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Son of Sorrow posted:They're right. School is for learning. These protestors are disrupting the order and peace necessary for other students to get what they paid for. The gently caress is this lanyard opinion poo poo?
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Cromulent_Chill posted:The gently caress is this lanyard opinion poo poo? that’s lobster shirt’s pet d&d freak
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school is for putting young kids in so much debt they have sell their souls and do awful things for awful people for decades to pay the money back
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lumpentroll posted:that’s lobster shirt’s pet d&d freak Yep. Grown in a tank like a sea monkey
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Sticking my arms up in the air to power up the student protestors like Goku charging a spirit bomb.
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Son of Sorrow posted:They're right. School is for learning. These protestors are disrupting the order and peace necessary for other students to get what they paid for. people sitting on a lawn saying things you don’t like is part of living in a free society and isn’t stopping anyone from getting an education.
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very glad mossad is watching out for those kids
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Is this the actual account for Mossad. Cause that's loving wild (yet not surprising) that they're threatening American students
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VoicesCanBe posted:Is this the actual account for Mossad. Cause that's loving wild (yet not surprising) that they're threatening American students it's some eastern european/ukranian jerkoff
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This picture will be seen in history textbooks
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Al-Saqr posted:it's some eastern european/ukranian jerkoff Ah okay
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a small group was protesting at UTSA yesterday and attracted 40 police cruisers watching them
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Al-Saqr posted:it's some eastern european/ukranian jerkoff that doesn't answer the question
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Al-Saqr posted:it's some eastern european/ukranian jerkoff That describes most of Mossad e:b
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College divestment was a major factor in ending the South African apartheid government. It started a chain reaction. These students don't need to start a socialist revolution to defund Israel. Student bodies are already beginning to pass divestment votes with large majorities, which is incredible because one year ago college BDS advocates were largely treated like pariahs.
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my_custom_username posted:A sad little fact to put things into perspective, a Gallup poll taken right after the Kent State shootings showed that the majority of Americans (~60%) thought the students were to blame for the shooting. Only about 10% blamed the National Guard There were interviews with people back then for immediate reactions from randos on the street and it wasn't terribly uncommon for them to find people who'd say poo poo like how the only mistake was that the national guard didn't shoot more students.
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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:Why the students' heart is in the right place but protest without class consciousness can only take them so far: This is a lot of words about a lot of things, but no evidence that the students have no politics beyond moral objections. In case you'd like to see some of the chatter on the ground, and aren't just assuming that only dead gay comedy forum posters have the intellect needed to develop class consciousness, here's a report from the students who took a building: https://es.crimethinc.com/2024/04/23/report-from-within-the-cal-poly-humboldt-occupation-the-occupation-of-siemens-hall#further-resources
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Srice posted:There were interviews with people back then for immediate reactions from randos on the street and it wasn't terribly uncommon for them to find people who'd say poo poo like how the only mistake was that the national guard didn't shoot more students. Found the quotes, source is the excellent book Nixonland: quote:Many recalled the State of Ohio’s original intention for the land upon which Kent State was built: a lunatic asylum. President White was flooded with letters saying it was his fault for letting Jerry Rubin speak on campus. Students started talking about the “Easy Rider syndrome,” after the Dennis Hopper and Peter Fonda movie about hippies murdered by vigilantes. Townspeople picketed memorial services. “The Kent State Four!” they chanted. “Should have studied more!”
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Ohtori Akio posted:the stuff down in austin is nuts. anything abbot doesnt like thats within spitting distance of the capitol gets pwned lol, it wasnt even a particularly dug in protest the notice to clear the "camp" came like thirty minutes after the protest began lol never seen anything escalate that fast
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VoicesCanBe posted:Ah okay don't worry the government of israel is happy to go on the social media record with only slightly less direct threats to US students https://twitter.com/Israel/status/1781951509070012435
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