Blitter posted:

Shamelessly reposting from the OSHA thread:

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6.3. Black Mountain Supersonic Corridor. 8 NM wide, 500' AGL to unlimited. Supersonic flight is authorized: above FL300 within W117-57’ to W 117-45; 10,000’ MSL to unlimited between W 117-45 to
Hwy 395; 500’ AGL to unlimited between Hwy 395 to W 116-49. There is a small circular extension 9.5
NMR of N35-10.9/ W 117-09, NE of Harpers for supersonic turns or maneuvers. The southern limit of the keyhole is N 35-01.9’. Minimum altitude is 500’ AGL for supersonic flight below 10,000’ MSL east of HWY 395 to the boundary.

Platystemon posted:

Just need to make some sextant shots.

Bentai posted:

Looks like there might also have been a prop strike on the starboard side?

Hadlock posted:

I'm headed to Hiller Aviation Museum tomorrow with

Wife
Mother in Law
5yo nephew
3.5yo daughter
2.25yo nephew (who only speaks one word: helicopter)

Any suggestions? It's supposed to rain like hell tomorrow so indoor air museum seems like a good choice

Also suggestions for aerospace geek

Zero One posted:

United: We're committed to safety.

Also United: What's Aeroflot 593?

https://twitter.com/RalphatTahoe/status/1780410755554439569

CarForumPoster posted:

Oh no he sat in a chair!!!!!! Aeronautical Insanity!!!!

quote:

The Federal Aviation Administration and United Airlines are investigating after a video surfaced showing an unauthorized person in the pilot’s seat during a flight chartered by the Colorado Rockies baseball team earlier this month.

United Airlines said it removed at least two of its pilots from the job in response to the incident, which took place on April 10 on a flight from Denver to Toronto.

“We’re deeply disturbed by what we see in that video, which appears to show an unauthorized person in the flight deck at cruise altitude while the autopilot was engaged,” United Airlines said in a statement.

“As a clear violation of our safety and operational policies, we’ve reported the incident to the FAA and have withheld the pilots from service while we conduct an investigation.”

The FAA has opened an investigation into the incident and told CNN it will “not comment on the details of open investigations.”

“Federal regulations restrict flight deck access to specific individuals,” the FAA said.

CNN has reached out to the Colorado Rockies.

Zero One posted:

Aeroflot 593 killed 75 people because the pilot let a non-pilot sit in their seat during cruise. The non-pilot (a 15 year old boy) accidentally turned off the autopilot and the plane crashed.

At the very least this is against the United Airlines rules and is probably also a violation of FAA regulations.

It's a very stupid decision (you might even call it Aeronautical Insanity) from a crew that probably will need to find a new line of work soon.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/18/sport/colorado-rockies-united-airlines-flight-unauthorized-person-cockpit/index.html

Zero One posted:

Aeroflot 593 killed 75 people because the pilot let a non-pilot sit in their seat during cruise. The non-pilot (a 15 year old boy) accidentally turned off the autopilot and the plane crashed.

Hadlock posted:

On the surface (no pun intended) it seems like there's plenty of altitude to correct the issue and even if you can't reenable the auto pilot, they'd be able to physically pull the kid out of the seat and recover from a dive in the time it takes to go from FL350 to FL50? Were they flying through the mountains at the time

Hadlock posted:

On the surface (no pun intended) it seems like there's plenty of altitude to correct the issue and even if you can't reenable the auto pilot, they'd be able to physically pull the kid out of the seat and recover from a dive in the time it takes to go from FL350 to FL50? Were they flying through the mountains at the time

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While seated at the controls, the pilot's son had unknowingly partially disengaged the A310's autopilot control of the aircraft's ailerons. The autopilot then disengaged completely, causing the aircraft to roll into a steep bank and a near-vertical dive. Despite managing to level the aircraft, the first officer over-corrected when pulling up, causing the plane to stall and enter into a spin; the pilots managed to level the aircraft off once more, but the plane had descended beyond a safe altitude to initiate a recovery and subsequently crashed into the mountain range.

Despite the struggles of both pilots to save the aircraft, it was later concluded that if they had simply let go of the control column after the first spin, aerodynamic principles would have caused the plane to return to level flight, thus preventing the crash.

CarForumPoster posted:

Oh no he sat in a chair!!!!!! Aeronautical Insanity!!!!

CarForumPoster posted:

Oh no he sat in a chair!!!!!! Aeronautical Insanity!!!!

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Reminds me of this instance a few years ago where the pope was let into an AA 777 cockpit for essentially a photoshoot mid flight. I actually met one of the pilots on that flight and he said it was against SOPs but the pope’s translator/aid asked if they could come up to see the flight deck and they all were like “a quick peek from the jumpseat won’t hurt. What are we gonna do, turn down the pope?”

That’s when he said he noticed the pope’s cameraman taking video and figured he was screwed, and then he saw the same video on CNN later that evening and KNEW he was screwed. He and the rest of the crew got a call from the chief pilot but filed ASAP reports and essentially just got told “don’t do it again” a pretty wild but interesting story.

Platystemon posted:

Everyone’s a model airman till the Pope shows up.

`Nemesis posted: