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Ohh hmm that makes sense. Gonna have to try that tomorrow. That would be better than him jumping like crazy on people. Gonna try to hit him with the attention before he does any of thw attention grabbers
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ObesePriest posted:Ohh hmm that makes sense. Gonna have to try that tomorrow. That would be better than him jumping like crazy on people. Gonna try to hit him with the attention before he does any of thw attention grabbers I hope it works! My amateur theory as to why it works when the other behavioral corrections doesn't, is because the pupper is just so happy to see us in the morning that they literally cannot contain themselves.
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May 29, 2018 00:56
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Checking in with a question about eliminating a behavior. We have a 2 year old 55lb rescue who is just learning his first commands and his name. Crate training is going well but isn't at a useful stage yet. The problem is that when he wants to play or have his belly rubbed, he mouths our feet and hands with extreme persistence. He was losing the habit, but I think the behavior was reinforced during a 2 week period we were away from him because it's back with a vengeance and a little rougher now. Our fixes whenever possible: - Giving him tons of love and attention often when he's relaxed and well behaved. Last night I rained treats from the sky for lying beside me at my computer, progressing to when he was relaxing with his head down - Catching the behavior when we suspect it's coming by asking for a Sit before he has a chance to touch us with his teeth, and then rewarding him with belly rubs and play, or continuing behavior training (clicker charging, or holding the sit/down). - Trying to completely ignore him when he does start. Unfortunately even with doubled up socks I can't handle it for more than like 15 seconds, so I slowly and calmly have been exiting the room through the basement door for 30 seconds. The behavior is getting worse, harder biting and more frequent, so I'm praying it's an extinction burst and we aren't doing something wrong. I'm fairly confident in our fixes in theory, but there are situations where we can't do them and I'm worrying those are providing some sort of positive enforcement. Our potential errors come when I can't get what I'm trying to do done, because I either have to keep a sharp eye on him ready to ask him to Sit every 15 seconds, or constantly go through the basement door once he starts. Even once I get him to sit and start giving him attention it only holds him off til I stop, then I can see the wheels turning as he gazes at my feet. We're having to grab his collar and we're highly unlikely to get him to succeed at a Sit at this point, so we're not positive what to do. My partner put him on a leash last night to keep him off me while I was busy, and if he got his teeth on me my partner would take him to the kitchen where it's boring until he lay down. I'm not sure if that's punishing, which isn't really our intention, or whether he's getting the attention he wants since he likes his leash? He's alone with my partner all day, and gets pretty mouthy with him, which I'm sure is more challenging when you don't have someone else to help. It's definitely not something he only does with one of us. More exercise might help push this out the door faster, but it appears he may have heartworm. We're waiting on confirmation from a lab since the results were iffy, but he's currently restricted from exercise and that will likely continue to be for the next 3 months  ETA: He's been back with us for 2 days. I'm just very concerned about doing something to make this last more than a second longer than it needs to, because it's making our life revolve around him and he's already predisposed to being clingy. Edit 2: Heartworm confirmed 
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May 29, 2018 18:10
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I have a whole new series of problems, how the hell are we going to survive 3 months of "cage" rest when he isn't trained yet oh my god
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May 29, 2018 21:14
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So, my fiance's boss is leaving their dog with us for 10 days. Fiance's boss('s girlfriend) is an idle housewife with a youtube channel and instagram promoter and this dog is a content generating machine for her. This dog is a 2 year old vagina faced bulldog that has never been socialized, trained, or disciplined. I will refer to this dog as our houseguest. Our goal for her is to teach her boundaries, instill obedience, and introduce socialization. My dog, 7 year old pitbull terrier mix, is a rescue that my partner and I adopted last year. She is scared, unconfident, and got a bit of the learned helplessness. We have not been able to solve her fear, but she is now a loved family member and chill lump on my couch. I will refer to her as my lump pup. Our goal is to boost her confidence, improve walking skills, and get her to defend her toys and food from our houseguest. Day 1 was p good. Boss's girlfriend dropped off the houseguest with luggage, refrigerated food, full suite of salmon oil, coconut oil, tumeric paste, and a 1000 threadcount dog bed. Our main training task is to discourage vocal barking while under our care. We instilled that barks will result in a time out in my lump pup's kennel, blacked out with little light. The timeout is usually 10-20 minutes. I monitor it cuz it gives me a nice smoke break. By the end of the night, 5th instance of barking, that cause-effect looks like it sunk in. We also did 3 training sessions, trying to reinforce dog spots, sit, and stays. Super productive. Our balcony is super handy cuz we have a neighbor dog about 3 stories down. From the balcony our neighbor dog is always visible, and sometimes vocal when sirens roll past. It is a nice way to desensitize the "other dogs exist" reaction. While I was out, my fiance filmed a play session. Session escalated and our houseguest drew blood from my lump pup. She has a split lip now. I can remain calm. So... From a continuing behavioral training standpoint, how bad is it that our houseguest drew blood? Is this something that has to be reported to california dog cps? How much blood money is proper to ask for to keep this incident discreet? Today is day 2. The op has been fabulous. I dont wanna give up on our houseguest, she CAN learn to stop being an rear end in a top hat. I have no expectation that our houseguest will retain any obedience when she returns to her home due to the Boss's Girlfriend's training style.
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May 29, 2018 22:12
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StrixNebulosa posted:I hope it works! My amateur theory as to why it works when the other behavioral corrections doesn't, is because the pupper is just so happy to see us in the morning that they literally cannot contain themselves. Hmm this work a little bit but once we stop giving him attention he jumps less but is still very excited. We'll keep working at it though, definitely a bit of improvement.
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May 31, 2018 19:13
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I have a 7 year old Black Mouth Cur who's very food motivated. He's also very sneaky. Last night, he jumped up on my neighbor's picnic table and chowed down about half of a medium pizza before he got chased off. I have no idea where to start curbing this behavior. Any advice?
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Jul 22, 2018 23:52
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I do not have a dog right now, but I plan on getting a dog in the coming years, what are some good resources for training a dog to track people and other animals in a search and rescue context? I didn't see anything specific to that in the OP.
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Jul 25, 2018 23:54
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Lucid Nonsense posted:I have a 7 year old Black Mouth Cur who's very food motivated. He's also very sneaky. Last night, he jumped up on my neighbor's picnic table and chowed down about half of a medium pizza before he got chased off. I have no idea where to start curbing this behavior. Any advice? Half a pizza!!! Crazy! Kikopup has great videos on this, I linked one below but take a look through her stuff. Using this positive style training is obviously really important for when they're sneaky, otherwise they just learn to do things you don't like when you aren't close enough to stop them. https://youtu.be/xZCIeEUm_n8
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Aug 5, 2018 03:17
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We just got a cute af 1 year old poodle a few days ago. Some questions: How to avoid separation anxiety, whining, and the like? In regard to the above question, we have her sleeping in a doggy bed in our room. How do we stop her from waking us up at 6 am (when she typically eats in the morning)? How do we help our dog behave around our two pet bunnies and around other animals? Is there any reason to crate train if the dog is already potty trained?
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Aug 5, 2018 22:46
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Thread's opinion on Sit Means Sit and their method of e-collars? We had a consultation with them today and it seems interesting. Their collars use a TENS chip, like in physical therapy/chiropractors, so its not a shock but a muscle stimulation that they say acts like a touch. I'm 100% against shock collars for the pup, but this doesn't generate a painful stimulus - more of a touch so it seems ok to me. It seems like a pretty good, if expensive, training solution but my wife and I aren't sold on it, so looking for other opinions. They're a chain so I figure someone has probably used them or knows someone who has. We have an overall pretty good cavalier KS spaniel who we potty trained from scratch at 6mos (she's a rescue). We did petco puppy classes as well, and she did pretty good to a point, so I know she's trainable, just a bit stubborn. She's become quite a barker since we recently moved, and I know part of it is she just needs a lot more stimulation at home than she gets so advice on that too would be great. We're basically looking to curb the barking at home (we live in an apartment so neighbors are a concern, also it's annoying), want her to have a rock solid recall so we can safely take her to dog parks/outside etc., and to get her to stop picking up every drat thing she sees when we're walking her. Appreciate any advice on this type of training, others, (clicker, etc) or other recommendations!
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Aug 19, 2018 23:42
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Put it on yourself and see how it feels before deciding.
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Aug 20, 2018 00:03
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We did do that, that was part of the consultation we had. I've had them before in PT. It just feels like a small buzz/twitch, and it's not painful.
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Aug 20, 2018 00:31
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If it doesnt hurt you, making you sure it doesnt hurt them, then just get over the cost and grab it. Do check it on yourself on the coller and settings you do on your dog. The consultation collar has to be on the "baby mode for rich humans" setting.
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Aug 20, 2018 03:35
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Yeah after further consideration and also finding out the cost (the low low price of $999 for their basic package lmao), we're definitely going to go with other options.
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Yossarian-22 posted:We just got a cute af 1 year old poodle a few days ago. Some questions: 2) routine, possibly crate. I free feed mine but the new 1 year old dog wakes me up at 6:30 every day. In a few months when I'm confident he won't piss if I stay in bed I'll push that back to 7. 3) Depends on dog/breed. I dunno about poodles, but my bassets I'll just let go and they'll smell their butt and try to play. A terrier would just kill them. Poodles have a prey drive I believe so it may be worthwhile finding a specialist. 4) crate training can help with 1, 2 and possibly 3. Dogs generally enjoy it if they don't have a negative association.
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I’m preparing to get my first dog and I’m a little nervous as I’ve never owned a dog before. I’ve read the thread and purchased The Power of Positive Dog Training, but is there a priority list of behaviors to focus on somewhere? I know it’s important to not overwhelm the dog with too many things at once. I’ve been contacting rescues and am looking for a small-ish older dog because I live in a 1BR apartment in a city. I like two dogs so far, both about 30lbs, one “shepard” mix that I assume will be higher energy and drive-y and one whippet mix that is described as a couch potato. Both rescues are foster-based and have coordinators who say they can help me find a good dog for my lifestyle. I imagine my priorities should be: 1. Housebreaking 2. Crate training 3. Leave it to avoid resource guarding? 4. Leash manners? I’m a bit lost here - any help would be much appreciated!
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turing_test posted:I’m preparing to get my first dog and I’m a little nervous as I’ve never owned a dog before. I’ve read the thread and purchased The Power of Positive Dog Training, but is there a priority list of behaviors to focus on somewhere? I know it’s important to not overwhelm the dog with too many things at once. You want Sit, Stay, Down, and Drop (as in drop what's in your mouth) in there, but that order looks good with one exception: don't rush crate training. Do it wrong and the dog will refuse the crate and then you have to start from scratch and yeah. Good luck! Remember that you are going to be with this dog for a long time and they'll need time to adjust to you, so don't try to do everything at once.
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I ended up getting a 6 y/o shepherd / beagle mix from a local rescue. She was owned by a family since she was 14 weeks and has some obedience training, so things like housebreaking, sit, down, crate training, resource guarding, and leash manners have pretty much been a nonissue. She also was a local rescue (not transported from the south) so didn't really experience a ton of trauma and stress getting to my house, which is awesome! She's very food motivated and I signed us up for some obedience classes at a local dog club. I'm looking forward to taking her from a good dog to a great dog!
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Beags are a blast to train. I haven had to flush my own toilet in half a year because ours loves her drat treats.
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Sep 15, 2018 02:13
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 sounds like you're calling piss and poo poo treats
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Only if it’s snowed. She loves turdcicles for some reason. Never fails to make me choke back a dry heave. Dog would do anything for a treat. We keep a dohickey full of miniature milk bones to toss to her for stuff. She’s sharp too so that helps.
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Tracker gets extremely excited to see any other living creature - she's just super loving happy, so I've been working on making her sit and calm down, and I tell people "she's excitable, but we're working on it" and the reaction invariably is: OHMYGODHIDOGGIECOMERE! The goofus in question.
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Writer Cath posted:Tracker gets extremely excited to see any other living creature - she's just super loving happy, so I've been working on making her sit and calm down, and I tell people "she's excitable, but we're working on it" and the reaction invariably is: I feel your pain, brother. I've got our boy Frisk to stop trying to chase every single car that comes by, but people and other dogs are still a challenge. A friend helpfully threw a ball while I was walking Frisk past him the other day. Sigh. High value treats seem to be the way to go, in our case little bits of cooked chicken breast. Normal treats just don't have enough attraction. But it is a slow process. This is from about a month ago... 
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My almost 6 year old beagle-basset has become extremely reluctant to go on walks. I'm pretty sure this stems from an unfortunate close encounter with illegal beach fireworks a few months ago that left him as stressed as I've ever seen him, but he's only recently started refusing walks - he used to get super excited when he saw the leash. If/when he does go outside he's really sensitive to sharp noises like roofers, distant gunfire (we live relatively close to rural areas so this isn't common but does happen), etc. How should I be handling this? I'm trying not to have to force him outside when he clearly doesn't want to go, but we're out of the house all day so we also kind of need him to use the bathroom in the morning before we leave.
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Talk to me about CBD oil vs Prozac for an anxious and possessive-aggressive dog. Our girl is 3 and despite intensive socialization, frequent training classes, and constant work to navigate/improve her issues, we've come to the conclusion that she really just needs to chill out on some meds in addition to our continued work with trainers and at home. She has a pretty high level of baseline anxiety and is very much prone towards dominant behavior and possessive aggression. This is occasional guarding of stupid things like q-tips and other people trash (which we've almost entirely solved with a treat-for-trash trade policy) but its a lot more too. Showing aggression on walks when we meet other dogs if they're aggressive on leash or simply inquisitive off leash (thanks redneck neighbors) because she doesn't want anyone near us. But she does not strain or act out if the other dog is well behaved and at least 10ft away. She shows aggression towards my parents dog only if there are people present and he approaches/is given affection by anyone ("those are MY scritches".) Sometimes she shows aggression simply because we want her to do something she doesn't want to do. She loses her goddamned mind if someone knocks on the door and is incredibly wary of strangers. Sometimes she loses her mind over random sounds outside. A good way to describe her is "hypervigilant." She is treat motivated/play motivated up to a point. There are times when NOTHING at all is worth stopping doing the thing she wants to do. 99% of the time she is a good, polite dog who goes on polite walks and sleeps on the couch. If my husband and I walk her individually she is well behaved, rarely pulls on the leash. We've gotten her to stop lunging after squirrels and cats almost entirely with training. But bizarrely she's godawful on the leash if we're both walking her, I assume because she's excited. If something excites her/riles her up she completely forgets all of her training. It's like she knows what she's supposed to do but cannot calm down enough to do it. When she shows aggression to other dogs on leash it's a lot of jumping/snarling/barking. When my parents dog is involved its definitely her trying to dominate him and herd him, she'll growl and yip and snap at him but it's nothing like when she has an episode with a person. When she shows possessive aggression to myself or my husband there is rarely any warning (though we try and diffuse any situation if we think its about to head in that direction if we do get a sign from her). It's like for 5-15 seconds she becomes a demon dog, she charges, her eyes are wild, and she bites repeatedly at whatever part of you she can reach but does not break the skin. If you back off, she will follow you. Sometimes turning and walking away works but usually the attack is so sudden its over before you can process it. Afterward, she immediately goes back to normal and is very sweet and polite. She will come up and wag her tail and poke you with her nose for pets or lick your hand like "hooman why are you crying?" without seeming to understand she just went berserk. She will no longer show possession of whatever she was guarding. It sounds a lot like what people describe with "idiopathic aggression" but with her we feel like we can usually identify a trigger (trying to take something from her, her thinking we're trying to take something from her when we're not, or us trying to get her to do something she doesn't want to do). It's just frustrating because we used to have trouble with taking trash from her but basically never have that problem anymore (re: the trash for treat policy) and instead she's showing this sort of aggression in other possessive but not guarding situations like. She will go anywhere between 3-6 months between episodes of people focused aggression like this but has had two episodes in the last month. It happens vastly more often with men but has happened to me twice in 2.5 years. In that time likely 3 times that to my husband. She's a border collie/aussie mix and very high energy. She gets two 30min walks daily and lots and lots of fetch in addition to free time outside. I believe this is why she's good 99% of the time. But it hasn't addressed her underlying personality issues. We already adopted a "nothing is free" policy, she has to sit politely to go outside, eat, get a treat, have the ball thrown, etc. She only gets affection when she is behaving. We take treats on walks to distract her from roaming dogs and cats and also for good behavior. We've exhausted just about everything other than medication. For us this is important beyond her behavior being inconvenient, we feel like her hypervigilance, anxiety, and aggression is frankly exhausting and incredibly stressful for her as well. It's also a safety issue. We love our dog who is good most of the time, only sometimes a little poo poo, and only aggressive for what averages to only seconds each month. But we're also concerned about safety. It's only ever happened at home/my parents home and never out and about (where she is ALWAYS leashed). Still, we don't feel safe inviting anyone into our home, and never have, because we fear she'll have an episode towards a guest. We're hopeful medication may help and we need information. I'm interested in trying daily CBD first but know there's issues with it. How can I find a provider that provides pure, safe CBD oil for use in dogs which others have used safely and effectively? Her safety and the efficacy of the product are my top priority. For using doggy Prozac, should we try that instead of CBD? Is it okay to try CBD first. We want something for daily use in addition to intensive training to help sort out her issues. JibbaJabberwocky fucked around with this message at 18:27 on Nov 11, 2018 |
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Nov 11, 2018 18:24
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You need to talk to a veterinary behaviorist for your situation. You can ask your regular vet if they have a recommendation but you need a vet that deals with behavior like this, not a trainer. You need to be careful with behavior meds because they can lower inhibition and make them more likely to bite if not used under vet supervision. It also sounds like you would benefit from a behaviorist going over management plans so another reason to reach out to one. Here's some places to start your seach, but seriously, as someone with a dog that's been on zoloft for 7 years now, this requires a vet: Board Certified Vet Behaviorists More behaviorists of different qualifications Going on meds was the best thing for my dog but I couldn't have gotten through the process without a good vet behaviorist. They're expensive but a lot cheaper than getting sued because your dog mauled someone.
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Instant Jellyfish posted:You need to talk to a veterinary behaviorist for your situation. You can ask your regular vet if they have a recommendation but you need a vet that deals with behavior like this, not a trainer. You need to be careful with behavior meds because they can lower inhibition and make them more likely to bite if not used under vet supervision. It also sounds like you would benefit from a behaviorist going over management plans so another reason to reach out to one. This was very helpful, thank you! We'll start by talking with our regular vet and also look into a behaviorist to help us as simple trainers haven't worked.
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JibbaJabberwocky posted:This was very helpful, thank you! We'll start by talking with our regular vet and also look into a behaviorist to help us as simple trainers haven't worked. Good luck with your crazy dog! I know how hard it is but there's hope for a safe, happy life if you get the right help. Do always drug a dog (if they need it and you have proper veterinary supervision). Mine had generalized anxiety disorder, travel anxiety and a laundry list of aggression/reactivity issues. Every single one of his issues is either resolved or low level at this point because he got the meds he needed, I got the training I needed, and we made sure to have all sorts of management safeguards in place. I strongly feel meds shouldn't have to be a last resort and wish I would have started them earlier. He didn't do well on prozac but the behaviorist was able to change things around until we got a combo that works because she knows what she's doing. Anyway I have a lot of feelings about getting crazydogs help because my dog is the bestest dog ever and I'm so proud of how far he's come. 
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