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Khablam posted:I'm glad they both bounced hard off the idea of making up generic countries to fill a stereotype. Qumar & Equatorial Kundu are lovely stand ins. I like that they note that CJ is thoroughly less concerned about the Native Americans and their issues in the previous episode. If anything she's slightly bemused by it. Yet now, she's going off the rails with concern. I can see why they would consider putting the argument in Sam's mouth instead because it should be an ideological argument: The US is making deals with some really lovely people. Instead though it's an argument about women, and as a result CJ just starts to sound hysterical while everyone else has to explain that's just the way things are done. Until of course another woman has to come along and explain things. I think if the argument was made by Sam, and it was more about them being an oppressive and violent regime then it might've worked better than it did.
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pokeyman posted:Also I'm rewatching the show for the nth time, and I don't know if it's the podcast or the changing times or what, but it's really hitting me how Sam does not miss an opportunity to be a piece of poo poo sexist. It would be an interesting character flaw except the show takes his side in every instance. I know that's not a revelatory observation or anything. Dude's just relentless. He's Sorkin's Mary Sue. myron cope posted:I haven't finished this episode of the podcast yet, but one thing that stuck out to me was them being mad that CJ had to be the one talking about the women's issue, and it would have been nice to have Sam or someone else be the one who is advocating for it here. My problem is I feel like if it was Sam's issue (or any of the men) they would have probably been mad about how the show always needs a man to solve a problem and doesn't let the women contribute. The whole subject shouldn't have been attempted in ~45mins because you end up with this half-pitched piece where half the valid readings of what you're seeing have issues. I like the podcast, because instead of just rolling my eyes at the bad optics in the episode we get to discuss it. Khablam fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Jun 4, 2017 |
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There was one episode where Sam made it sound like he'd rather kill himself than go to a Chinese opera with Leo's daughter. Racist piece of poo poo.
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# ? Jun 4, 2017 04:49 |
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Have you seen Chinese opera? I have and would also rather kill myself than repeat the experience.
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# ? Jun 4, 2017 05:20 |
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The more I think of it its kinda amazing that one episode can be attacked from so many ways at once.
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Grand Fromage posted:Have you seen Chinese opera? I have and would also rather kill myself than repeat the experience. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8OHbbmfnW8&t=1657s
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Josh Lyman posted:Have you seen Western operas? Yeah. I don't care for them either but it's not a comparable level of pain. There is this show where I live where they cut the good bits out of all the Sichuan operas and do them on their own, like a highlights reel, so there's no screeching and it's just like two hours of fighting and spitting fire and stuff. That might be okay.
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# ? Jun 5, 2017 04:24 |
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Mu Zeta posted:There was one episode where Sam made it sound like he'd rather kill himself than go to a Chinese opera with Leo's daughter. Racist piece of poo poo. Should have been a Klingon opera
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# ? Jul 2, 2017 04:16 |
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Ron Silver was a gift and it's a shame they didn't use him more. Also, as amusing as it is that Sorkin drops Mandy, everyone forgets about Gianelli's team. Also, I have to think his performance here got Mark Harmon that NCIS gig.
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DrVenkman posted:Ron Silver was a gift and it's a shame they didn't use him more. Also, as amusing as it is that Sorkin drops Mandy, everyone forgets about Gianelli's team. Well I doubt it was Summer School.
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# ? Jul 14, 2017 20:55 |
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thrawn527 posted:Well I doubt it was Summer School. It was Intimate Agony, actually.
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# ? Jul 14, 2017 21:43 |
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The latest episode of The West Wing Weekly has Justin Trudeau in it, pretty good get.
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# ? Jul 27, 2017 19:28 |
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thexerox123 posted:The latest episode of The West Wing Weekly has Justin Trudeau in it, pretty good get. Yeah it's a pretty cool that he was an obvious WW nerd and was throwing out callbacks to random eps
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# ? Jul 29, 2017 10:32 |
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The latest episode did something so loving frustrating though. They mention that Donna uses a big word in one line, and Hrishi says he looked it up but doesn't say what the definition is! How are you so bad at loving podcasting? They do this all the time, just drop points or go on tangents or interrupt each other when the other one is saying something really interesting. Like, I want to like the show but I find myself yelling at them "JUST TALK ABOUT THE EPISODE YOU FUCKS!" Also, I find myself skipping through every guest appearance unless they were someone who worked on the show. I don't want to hear about what people in government are doing, I'd watch the news for that, I want to hear about The West Wing TV show.
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# ? Jul 29, 2017 10:50 |
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I mean the word was "badinage" , and not to be too but it's a pretty cromulent word, and the meaning is easy to parse from the context. The podcast is pretty self-indulgent but I roll with it, and the latest episode was top-notch WeAreTheRomans fucked around with this message at 14:36 on Jul 29, 2017 |
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WeAreTheRomans posted:I mean the world was "badinage" , and not to be too but it's a pretty cromulent word, and the meaning is easy to parse from the context. It really wasn't. She says the party will have badinage. That doesn't give me near enough context. But thanks for spelling it so I can look it up, you're better at communication than two podcast hosts.
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# ? Jul 29, 2017 11:38 |
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I found the definition linked in the episode description.
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# ? Jul 29, 2017 13:58 |
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withak posted:I found the definition linked in the episode description. It would have been nice if either of them had mentioned that, or just taken 5 seconds and said it. I dunno, it seems like such a basic mistake.
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WeAreTheRomans posted:The podcast is pretty self-indulgent but I roll with it, and the latest episode was top-notch They need an editor pretty badly.
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# ? Jul 29, 2017 21:48 |
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I've felt the same way. WW is my favourite series of all time and I was thrilled for this podcast, but they just aren't very good podcasters. They're not super engaging and I don't feel they really add too much to the discussion of the episodes. It reminds me a lot of the commentary tracks on the episodes themselves. A lot of self-congratulating and not enough focus on providing interesting stories or being entertaining for the people listening. I haven't listened to the lastest season's worth or so, but it doesn't sound like they've gotten much better.
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# ? Jul 29, 2017 22:59 |
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They just whine and nitpick and it isnt entertaining. I just listen to the guest segments, and even those arent very interesting anymore.
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# ? Aug 1, 2017 03:03 |
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I'm so glad I didn't get a lapel pin or that stupid The Signal t shirt. Also that this will be the only TWW podcast.
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# ? Aug 1, 2017 07:33 |
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TheBigBad posted:They just whine and nitpick and it isnt entertaining. I just listen to the guest segments, and even those arent very interesting anymore. Trudeau was great
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# ? Aug 1, 2017 08:13 |
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Am I the only one who had an insane nostalgia trip with all the Television Without Pity stuff? edit: Oh huh it was about Sexism in the west-wing. That is super super interesting. algebra testes fucked around with this message at 09:14 on Aug 11, 2017 |
# ? Aug 11, 2017 09:10 |
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Because of TWW, I bought the Bach cello suites....
WillMcAvoy fucked around with this message at 17:39 on Sep 3, 2017 |
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"We're getting on too well, they're going to kill you."
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# ? Sep 8, 2017 09:20 |
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Mark Harmon 4 Allison Janney 4eva
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Khablam posted:Mark Harmon 4 Allison Janney 4eva "and then she backed her butt up into my crotch". so much for that non-explicit podcast rating
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# ? Sep 8, 2017 11:20 |
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As much as I hate the Warm Centrist Takes on the west wing weekly, Sorkin is always a good guest. "The squibs are set so he could survive those gun shots!"
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New West Wing Weekly up with Martin Sheen. As always the pod is arguably the best when the hosts aren't actually reviewing the show. edit: if you don't want to listen the biggest take away is they were talking about a season 8 on another network with Vinnick winning. That and Martin thinks The Vietnam War Ken Burns doc is great, and he's right. algebra testes fucked around with this message at 09:44 on Oct 4, 2017 |
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