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Dik Hz
Feb 22, 2004

Fun with Science

Iymarra posted:

So as a newbie fisherwoman, I'm looking for something to get stuck in with.
I've done a little research but all this terminology of jigs and spinners and stuff has me bamboozled. I was recommended to use a spinning reel rather than a casting reel as the former is 'easier' for newbies to learn?
I was originally looking at a telescopic / travel rod but was warned off these for poor build quality? Someone elsewhere casually threw 'penfishingrods.com' at me but that looks..dangerously insane.

So, I'm looking to get something that is robust as hell and not going to fall apart and had actual quality control performed on it, that doesn't cost a kidney.

I saw the 'st croix mojo yak' rod - https://stcroixrods.com/collections/freshwater - but that seems to be made for fishing in a kayak - could I feasibly just sit on a bank and use that to fish trout or whatever tiddlers are in a stream/river?

What 'made in USA or somewhere with good quality build and QC' rod/reels would you recommend? Combos preferred, prespooled even better as I have no idea how to actually spool a reel.
Prespooled line has been sitting on the reel for at least a couple months, so it has a lot of memory that makes it hard to cast. You absolutely want to spool your own line. Just tie it around the reel in any way you can, and crank the reel until it fills up. Only go about half-way to avoid issues when you cast. If you completely fill a reel, the line can slip off the face of the reel and really screw with you when you try to cast.

Shimano, Penn, Mitchell, and Zebco are all quality entry level rod/reel combo points for newbies. I'm a big fan of the Mitchell Avocet package. Get a 1-piece or 2-piece rod for simplicity. Telescoping and 4-piece rods can be really persnickity in ways that are tough to deal with for beginners. 1-piece rods just feel better, if you have a vehicle that can transport them easily. 2-piece rods breakdown enough to fit anywhere.

Definitely agree that spinning reels are the easiest way to start. I've been fishing for almost 40 years and still use spinning reels for everything.

Also, where are you planning to fish? We can give more specific pointers if we know what species you're targeting and what body of water you're fishing on.

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Jump King
Aug 10, 2011

I will say that if your goal is just to give fishing a go then using a prespooled reel is fine at first. It's not great for all the reasons mentioned, but you're going to be so unfamiliar with everything out of the gate that the difference there isn't going to make or break the experience. Or at least, that's how it was for me, I was using prespooled lines for an embarrassingly long time and I still caught fish just fine.

Of course, spooling your own line isn't super difficult either.

Jump King fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Jul 15, 2020

titties
May 10, 2012

They're like two suicide notes stuffed into a glitter bra

My fishing buddy catches more fish than anyone else i know and he rolls with a gx2 / single- bearing reel combo that costs like $25 at Walmart.

You might hit up some yard sards and grab a couple rods and some tackle for cheap

Dik Hz
Feb 22, 2004

Fun with Science

titties posted:

You might hit up some yard sards and grab a couple rods and some tackle for cheap
100% agree. Yale Sards are the best place to pick up used fishing gear. I got a great pair of fishing boots for $2 that carried me for 2 years.

King of Bees
Dec 28, 2012
Gravy Boat 2k

Dik Hz posted:

100% agree. Yale Sards are the best place to pick up used fishing gear. I got a great pair of fishing boots for $2 that carried me for 2 years.

Check thrift shops as well as craigslist for people clearing out garages.

Rev. Bleech_
Oct 19, 2004

~OKAY, WE'LL DRINK TO OUR LEGS!~

titties posted:

My fishing buddy catches more fish than anyone else i know and he rolls with a gx2 / single- bearing reel combo that costs like $25 at Walmart.

You might hit up some yard sards and grab a couple rods and some tackle for cheap

half of my rods are 20 year old Eagle Claw combos purchased for $20.

If it gets bait in front of fish, you can catch fish on it.

Elmnt80
Dec 30, 2012


I'm a dork that has a bunch of overpriced sticks of graphite to fish with. A basic ugly stick is 100% the perfect newbie fishing rod. Cheap, durable and with a quality that you normally wouldn't get at that price point. I'd wager more fish have been hauled out with those rods than just about any other. Nthing the ugly stick recommendation, then just grab a cheap reel and some basic line and go fish.

King of Bees
Dec 28, 2012
Gravy Boat 2k
If you fish salt water remember to always rinse your gear when you're done or the the next time you use it it might not work

Enigma
Jun 10, 2003
Raetus Deus Est.

As was said, where you fish, what you fish for, and how (e.g. boat, pier, surf) makes a huge difference.

A basic saltwater shore fishing setup is going to be pretty different from lakes/ponds. Sometimes it's worth getting a little nicer, though far short of $Texas, stuff for salt, which destroys cheaper gear, saving you money long term.

1,000% learn to spool your reel. Pre-spooled line is universally garbage and will actively gently caress up your fishing experience. It breaks, doesn't lay right on the reel, casts poorly, and sometimes even jumps off. Even if you have the store spool it for you (many will do it for free with purchase), that's still worlds better than something spooled in the box.

prom candy
Dec 16, 2005

Only I may dance
I'm sure I've told this story in this thread before but last bass opener I spent all weekend at the cottage fishing with a ton of tackle and two pretty nice rods. Didn't catch anything. Guy next door caught a 14" smallie off his dock with a children's barbie rod he found in his shed and a cigarette butt.

Woodpile
Mar 30, 2013

Dik Hz posted:

Prespooled line has been sitting on the reel for at least a couple months, so it has a lot of memory that makes it hard to cast. You absolutely want to spool your own line. Just tie it around the reel in any way you can, and crank the reel until it fills up. Only go about half-way to avoid issues when you cast. If you completely fill a reel, the line can slip off the face of the reel and really screw with you when you try to cast.

Wish I had done that bit last night. I pack as much line as possible on a reel because I think it lets me get better distance. Which is probably wrong. So night fishing with beers and what you referred to happened. I was having bad luck and tipsy so I took it out on the bail of my shimano light spinning reel. RIP you fucker.

Taking the day off from fishing for my mental health.

Time
Aug 1, 2011

It Was All A Dream
Please be nice to fish and also your shimano products

tesilential
Nov 22, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Knots. The first thing to learn as a newbie is knots. Before I make my first cast of the day I’ve already tied a half dozen knots. Your lure may well fling off on your first cast if your knot is suspect. Learn the “canoe man’s loop knot” and you can tie on any hook or lure.

To spool a spinner is trivial, you literally reel exactly as you would when bringing in a lure or fish. The trick is the Knot. Google the “arbor knot” and practice it a couple times. Voila, now you how to spool a reel. Have a friend with a pencil and rag hold the spool of line and apply slight pressure as you turn the handle and spool the reel up.

Fill it 80-85% with mono, a little more with braid. Don’t spool 100% as when you start fishing, your line will come onto the reel looser after cast than it did when you first spoils. This excess line tends to shoot off on subsequent casts and make a mess as others have mentioned. That being said don’t fill it less than 70% as the line slapping against the spool lip will reduce your casting distance. Personally, I toss my line and respool once my spool gets down to about 60% full.

gamera009
Apr 7, 2005

I wish I had the gear to effectively spool up fly reels. It looks like a goddawful chore by hand.

Mukulu
Jul 14, 2006

Stop. Drop. Shut 'em down open up shop.

Elmnt80 posted:

I'm a dork that has a bunch of overpriced sticks of graphite to fish with. A basic ugly stick is 100% the perfect newbie fishing rod. Cheap, durable and with a quality that you normally wouldn't get at that price point. I'd wager more fish have been hauled out with those rods than just about any other. Nthing the ugly stick recommendation, then just grab a cheap reel and some basic line and go fish.

I love Ugly Stiks so much and I recommend them to everyone. Plus they're affordable. I've beat mine to poo poo and they still haven't broke.

Woodpile
Mar 30, 2013
Smith Mt. Lake Fishing Report:

Air temp: 75 degrees
Water temp: no ice skating

It is now midnight so I have technically taken an entire day off from fishing. I helped the kids though who caught a bunch of panfish on 4/0 circle hooks and dead, gushy nightcrawlers. Wife got in on the action and hosed up two spinning rods, one of which will require surgery in the daylight. Currently have a gut-hooked panfish on a 7' medium action spinning rod with 20 lb test with a carolina rig and garlic chicken breast with same rig on a 6' medium rod with 10lb test

(editor's note: caught a channel on the big rod in middle of typing, line broke but I got him out of the water - I'm counting it, biggish boy 8lbs)

Pray for me.

Stalizard
Aug 11, 2006

Have I got a headache!
Well I've gone off the deep end.

My big switch rod got lost in the mail so to console myself I bought a little 3 weight fiberglass rod for little mountain streams.

We have native brook trout here in Georgia but they only get up to like six inches long, so a 3 weight rod is perfect for those little mountain fish & those little mountain casts. Because it's glass it should cast a lot differently and be a lot more interesting than just another graphite rod.

Then I also got a sinking line and another spool for my regular 5/6 rod because the main trout stream here, the Chattahoochee north of Sandy Springs, is a stocked and surprisingly productive tail water. I caught two trout last weekend dead drifting squirmy worms, but the river gets as much as 10-12 feet deep and so I figure a sinking line can get me a lot closer to the fish than my regular floating line on a dead drift. I figured if I improved the line I could potentially claim to catch fish without subjecting myself to the scrutiny of those who disparage the San Juan worm.

Please stop me before I try to buy an old bamboo rod, just to see what they used to feel like

King of Bees
Dec 28, 2012
Gravy Boat 2k
Bamboo is a blast. I have a banty and a 8.5 6wt. These days they are relegated to small mouth in retention ponds, but man what fun

Woodpile
Mar 30, 2013
There's a book out there which is either Fishing For Dummies or How to Catch Fish by some Canadian dude (really good for beginning and experienced anglers) that advised to practice tying knots in pitch black. Spent 30 mins tying tying three simple knots last night. I read books for the pictures I guess.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

Hey fishing weirdo goons. Some people over in what used to be Take A Hike sold you out told me you might be interested in this.

The Take A Hike subforum is currently kind of dead so we’re doing what amounts to a relaunch. It was in DIY which is kind of bizarre. It’s basically getting turned back into an RSF for a bit and I’m going to do a bunch of drumming up attention for it. The basic idea behind the new forum is going to be outdoors stuff. Hiking, fishing, hunting, camping, all that kind of good stuff.

Here's the moved forum, bumped to be top level for the time being like all RSFs are. I suspect it will find a new home besides DIY in the future, since it was always kind of a weird fit as a sub there. The new name of the forum is The Great Outdoors.

Anyways forums live or die by having specialist, niche threads. A lot of other subs have outdoors-y threads that are general purpose subject chat things which is good and fine. We don’t need to fill the forum with ten different camping/chat threads with different crews. TFR can have a video game thread even though Games is a forum, for example, because a general chat thread for gun nerds to talk about what they're playing today can't replicate the dozens upon dozens of unique threads that delve much deeper into specific subjects that a dedicated Games forum has.

So, we are going to need some threads on the sort of niche outdoorsy poo poo that an actually goony outdoors forum would talk about. So if any of you ever wanted to have an OP of a thread about what hiking boots are good or how to make your own fishing lures or UrbEx or what the gently caress ever here’s your chance.


I've already started what amounts to a soft launch of the reinvigorated forum. It's now a top level forum and we'll see where it goes from there. We've press ganged a couple of current mods into keeping an eye on it and, in true RSF fashion, if it takes off again we'll pull some people as mods from within that community.

As an aside, if this thread thinks that it would be a better fit over there I'm open to talking about that. I don't want to force moves on threads that are happy where they are, but I do think that some of the more specifically outdoors threads might be a better fit over there. Of course if this rebooted forum doesn't take off the threads will be moved back to their original homes before it's shuttered.

the yeti
Mar 29, 2008

memento disco



There’s already a fishing thread in there but I forget why someone decided we need two

A Pack of Kobolds
Mar 23, 2007




This is a good idea, thank you for putting good ideas into action. Also lol at you calling anybody with a hobby a weirdo.

the yeti posted:

There’s already a fishing thread in there but I forget why someone decided we need two

I think bongwizzard's reasoning was "I was kind of lit"

Suspect Bucket
Jan 15, 2012

SHRIMPDOR WAS A MAN
I mean, HE WAS A SHRIMP MAN
er, maybe also A DRAGON
or possibly
A MINOR LEAGUE BASEBALL TEAM
BUT HE WAS STILL
SHRIMPDOR
cheese it fellas it's the heat

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

A Pack of Kobolds posted:

This is a good idea, thank you for putting good ideas into action. Also lol at you calling anybody with a hobby a weirdo.

You post on Something Awful?

I'm pretty sure by definition that makes you a weirdo.

A Pack of Kobolds
Mar 23, 2007



Cyrano4747 posted:

You post on Something Awful?

I'm pretty sure by definition that makes you a weirdo.

Says the Admin. :yeeclaw:

For real though, thanks for doing thankless work.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

I have zero illusions about not being a giant weirdo too.

Elmnt80
Dec 30, 2012


I would like to see this thread in TGO and had wondered about moving it before this rebranding. I'm not sure this thread gets anything from being in A/T where it can be hard to find. (Seriously, finding this thread was a pain the first time) Ideally we'd have both this thread and the post a fish thread merge into one big ol thread so we have all the posters unique to each thread all in one place posting about fishing! If the worst happens and TGO fails, we can always move back.

Edit: Confirming I'm a weirdo. :toot:

Jack B Nimble
Dec 25, 2007


Soiled Meat
Hey all, I'm new to fishing and need some help filling my first tacklebox. I read in the OP that a simple ~$30 dollar all in one is the way to go for a beginner, and that sounds fine by me, but my specific question is what to put in my very very small Okuma Voyager tacklebox; I intend to do some of my fishing while hiking or motorcycle camping so I'm using the tackle box that fits into the carrying case.

Anyway, the tackle box is about the size of my hand and I'd like to do freshwater fishing in the south east. Any tips on what I could put into a "minimalist" tackle box?

Suspect Bucket
Jan 15, 2012

SHRIMPDOR WAS A MAN
I mean, HE WAS A SHRIMP MAN
er, maybe also A DRAGON
or possibly
A MINOR LEAGUE BASEBALL TEAM
BUT HE WAS STILL
SHRIMPDOR

Jack B Nimble posted:



Anyway, the tackle box is about the size of my hand and I'd like to do freshwater fishing in the south east. Any tips on what I could put into a "minimalist" tackle box?

Beetle spins, small white soft plastics, dart head jigs, j and small circle hooks for worms and cut bait fishing, small dressed spinners. I usually pack a few hours worth of gear into a large pill container (like the ones you get big antibiotics in from the pharmacy). The hooks get a bit tangled, but it's a very cheap small solution.

Hooplah
Jul 15, 2006


One interesting solution I've seen for keeping lots of hooks/lures together in a small space without tangling them is to use a little cylinder of closed cell foam to stick all the hooks into. I've also used old wine corks for pre-set up rigs. wrap all the line around the cork then sink the hooks into it.

That was my solution for a sabiki rig- it has six hooks on one main line for catching baitfish. They're extremely prone to tangles, but this kept it in place nicely.

Woodpile
Mar 30, 2013
Pretty much skunked last night. Though I got a vicious hit fishing a live panfish on the bottom. 10 lb test instantly broke. Back at it tonight.

Harry Potter on Ice
Nov 4, 2006


IF IM NOT BITCHING ABOUT HOW SHITTY MY LIFE IS, REPORT ME FOR MY ACCOUNT HAS BEEN HIJACKED

Woodpile posted:

Pretty much skunked last night. Though I got a vicious hit fishing a live panfish on the bottom. 10 lb test instantly broke. Back at it tonight.

What was it you think? I love poo poo like this

<jaws theme starts playing>

Woodpile
Mar 30, 2013

Harry Potter on Ice posted:

What was it you think? I love poo poo like this

<jaws theme starts playing>

Rockfish (striper if you prefer), of course. 80 lbs if he was an ounce with a tail big as a canoe paddle. My harpoon is in the shop else I'd had that devil.

I suppose it could have been an aggressive catfish that was able to snap the line because my bait spent 30mins twisting it. But then how am I going to sell my wife on the idea of buying a second harpoon?

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Elmnt80
Dec 30, 2012


https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3933162

Alrighty then! Since I think I've heard from a majority of active fishing goons on discord and haven't heard otherwise here, I'm going to go ahead and close this thread in favor of our new fancy fishing thread in TGO! Lets do it!

Elmnt80 fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Jul 18, 2020

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