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Can someone please explain why positional asphyxiation is such a big deal for sleeping in something like a Baby Bjorn bouncer and not a car seat? I know all the studies, I know all the recommendations, so please don’t spam me with links, etc. I’m just trying to make sense of why sleeping in a car seat for an hour and a half (provided it’s installed and restrained correctly) is okay, but a bouncer that makes the same angle to horizontal is not. If I have my eyes on my kid with a monitor and she’s not rolling over onto her face, what exactly is different? Is it the shoulder straps? I swear some of these studies are providing excessively broad recommendations for parents that severely hosed up (like their kid could roll, and they let the kid sleep in the thing overnight, etc.).
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Apr 19, 2024 14:37
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It's generally not advised to let an infant sleep in their car seat. You let them sleep in the car seat when they are in the car because what the gently caress else are you going to do? At home where you use the bouncer you have options that are safe for sleep that you should use.
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Apr 19, 2024 14:49
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I let mine sleep in the car seat if we came home and he was still sleeping. Mind you I’d just sit on the couch watching him but it was a moment of zen for a while. You just end up doing whatever. Edit: We also use one of those Doona seats so the car seat is just the stroller also so I could just rock him a bit while chilling.
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Apr 19, 2024 14:55
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:worse, probably in America Crazy people, what can you say? They threatened the whole school district.
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Apr 19, 2024 15:00
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Yeah our district was very rural when it was founded so all the schools for all the ages are in the same place. It's fuckin weird. About a month ago someone called in a bomb threat, so he went and called them in for random schools on the campus. 4 threats in 3 days. Complete waste of everyone's time and energy
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Apr 19, 2024 15:09
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:It's generally not advised to let an infant sleep in their car seat. You let them sleep in the car seat when they are in the car because what the gently caress else are you going to do? Wake them up constantly so that they’re miserable and crying but definitely breathing
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Apr 19, 2024 15:15
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illcendiary posted:Wake them up constantly so that they’re miserable and crying but definitely breathing Don't worry, just give it 40 years and we'll so who's tired of wiping someone else's rear end all day
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Apr 19, 2024 15:38
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illcendiary posted:Can someone please explain why positional asphyxiation is such a big deal for sleeping in something like a Baby Bjorn bouncer and not a car seat? I've never heard this I think in general car seats have better head rolling protection. The premium car seats seem to have an extra set of pillows to minimize neck rolling, and can be removed as the baby grows, and the straps are designed and certified by an engineer The straps in our mamaroo seemed like an absolute strangulation hazard it didn't get much use Neck strength/neck control also varies a lot by child. My nephew had basically none and my wife's sister gifted us an entire collection of neck support pillows. By comparison our daughter had full neck control by the end of week 1 and was always twisting her head around to see what was going on
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Apr 19, 2024 17:21
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The way it was explained to me is that it isn't about strangulation, it's about positional suffocation. Our daughter was a little under a month early and it's especially a concern with preemies, so we got a pretty in-depth briefing on it. The hospital put her through a little stress test where they had her on all the various monitors and the had her sit in her car seat for an hour to make sure she was good in that position for at least that long. The nurse working with us said that it's standard for preemies but they're rolling it out to the full term kids too, because some kids just stop breathing if they're in that position for too long. I'm forgetting the details now, but it has to do with them being a little compressed in there and not having the muscle mass to really push back against the position if they're having difficulty breathing.
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Apr 19, 2024 17:35
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One of the positions we were warned about is slumping forward, chin on chest. That can be enough to collapse the throat and prevent the child from breathing. And like all baby things, the advice tends to be on the side of 0-risk-is-the-only-acceptable-amount, so I'm seeing advice that is warning about that possibility through age 2 and some that says only until they can sit up.
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Apr 19, 2024 17:52
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Also, when the car seat is in the car it is installed at the best angle to prevent positional asphyxiation. When the car seat is sitting somewhere else, that angle might not be present and it would be the same type of situation for a swings and bouncers and what not.
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Apr 19, 2024 17:54
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Renegret posted:It's amazing how hard having one kid is. Then how hard having two kids is. Then how easy going back to one kid is. Casually confessing to murder on SomethingAwful is pretty standard now that I think of it. 
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Apr 19, 2024 18:44
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Best to keep kids awake 24/7 imo, they could die randomly at any time. They know that too which is why children fight sleep so hard, their parents are trying to kill them!
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Apr 19, 2024 19:01
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Giant Metal Robot posted:One of the positions we were warned about is slumping forward, chin on chest. That can be enough to collapse the throat and prevent the child from breathing.
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Apr 19, 2024 19:07
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I’ve always heard that even car seats are only safe for sleep in the car or attached to the stroller; otherwise the angle might lead to asphyxiation. I let my kids sleep in theirs inside sometimes but I kept a close eye on them.
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Apr 19, 2024 19:32
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Giant Metal Robot posted:One of the positions we were warned about is slumping forward, chin on chest. ... and some that says only until they can sit up. Yeah I am leaning towards this I can see it being an issue for newborns up to 3 months. It seems like the risk starts dropping to zero as they approach 6 months but I'm not a doctor We had/have the uppa baby mesa, designed for 0-6 mo 1) the baby is so far reclined they're basically laying on their back, the seat also has a level, and the base can be adjusted so it sits in the car at the correct angle. I guess that's why I was so surprised to hear about this car seat thing 2) it has enormous head support pillows on both sides that prevent the head to roll to one side, which probably prevents a head roll evolving into a slump 3) with the chest strap on, and near the collar bone it's virtually impossible to sit forward/upright, let alone slump forward 4) I'm kinda  about strapping my kid in comfortably tight into the seat, if you're lazy about strap tightness and letting the chest strap slide down you're defeating most of the design of the car seat
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Apr 19, 2024 19:48
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nachos posted:Best to keep kids awake 24/7 imo, they could die randomly at any time. They know that too which is why children fight sleep so hard, their parents are trying to kill them! You joke but I think this is actually one of the theories for why it’s recommended babies sleep in the same room as parents during early babyhood. They get woken up more often from noises/parents and are less likely to get sids because of that. That being said our boy was sleeping overnight in his own room before the recommended age so I’m not one to talk.
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Apr 19, 2024 21:24
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Eeyo posted:You joke but I think this is actually one of the theories for why it’s recommended babies sleep in the same room as parents during early babyhood. It’s the theory behind “back to sleep” isn’t it? Stomach they sleep too deeply? Not sure if it works that way, but “back to sleep” did work as far as I know
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Apr 19, 2024 21:31
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Tomorrow is Potty Training Day, Take 1. May God have mercy on our souls
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Academician Nomad posted:Tomorrow is Potty Training Day, Take 1. May God have mercy on our souls Good luck, we're 6 months in and poop is still a challenge 
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Apr 20, 2024 02:14
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Eeyo posted:You joke but I think this is actually one of the theories for why it’s recommended babies sleep in the same room as parents during early babyhood. Yeah I understand the reasoning behind it but then I just think about how loving dumb and useless human babies are from an evolutionary perspective. Not only are babies completely dependent on their parents forever but if they are too good at the thing that helps them grow properly they literally die. We probably should have gone extinct ages ago
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Taking a toddler to Hawaii next month. Please send me tips, tricks, and recommendations. My kid is extremely busy and active.
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