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HBO should pull their finger out and force Canelo/Cotto/Martinez into a fight with him then
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# ? May 31, 2014 23:30 |
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# ? May 13, 2024 09:14 |
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Cotto is probably an easy one, but he isnt beating Martinez. Martinez probably would rather fade into the sunset than deal with GGG. You would probably not want to ruin Canelo if you were hbo. A Cotto upset would be awesome for GGG.
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# ? May 31, 2014 23:45 |
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'DeGale With Premature Stoppage of Gonzales in Four' this is why british stoppages are so poo poo. it robs everyone. like, even degale who probably would'e gone on and got a legitimate stoppage gets headlines suggesting he was fortunate. does my head in tbh. bring back standing 8 counts ffs.
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# ? May 31, 2014 23:47 |
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Try to think of all the classic fights which never would've happened in a British ring. Pacquiao v Marquez would've been done and dusted in the first round, never to be thought of again.
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# ? May 31, 2014 23:48 |
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fatherdog posted:Froch is going to come out more cautiously and stop Groves later and more convincingly.
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# ? Jun 1, 2014 05:38 |
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The stoppage was earlier and that last statement is so vague that considering the first fight any TKO/KO that wasn't an outright farce would've been more convincing
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# ? Jun 1, 2014 10:14 |
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thehappyprince posted:one of them will win via knockout by a punch with the left or right hand or by points decision
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# ? Jun 1, 2014 13:57 |
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Goddamn what an event, fuckin Brits know how to throw on a show. I've fallen in love with Carl all over again, handled himself in the ring and on the mic like a king, what a man. haha
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# ? Jun 1, 2014 22:09 |
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Duncan Sperguson posted:The stoppage was earlier and that last statement is so vague that considering the first fight any TKO/KO that wasn't an outright farce would've been more convincing Mmmhmm.
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# ? Jun 2, 2014 07:17 |
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Oh my god I wish I could post this but I know better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJc5EPAyesU&t=22s Dan Rafael's twitter posted:Richard Schaefer announces he is leaving Golden Boy. #boxing https://twitter.com/danrafaelespn/status/473578072781127682 I wonder if we'll see Canelo and/or Lara at Cotto-Martinez EDIT: Also the greatest moment on HBO this weekend wasn't The Mountain vs The Viper last night https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HR63wvbcHzw&t=1185s Stupid sexy Miguel Cotto The SituAsian fucked around with this message at 23:44 on Jun 2, 2014 |
# ? Jun 2, 2014 23:24 |
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Predictably, Floyd (and presumably every other Haymon fighter without a GB contract, which is reportedly most of them) has left GB.
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# ? Jun 3, 2014 14:24 |
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I always thought it was pretty stupid for Golden Boy not to have signed any of the Haymon fighters. Oscar left a hole open and got hosed.
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# ? Jun 3, 2014 14:40 |
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KidDynamite posted:I always thought it was pretty stupid for Golden Boy not to have signed any of the Haymon fighters. Oscar left a hole open and got hosed. Oscar was off doing blow and wearing fishnets and I suspect Schaffer saw it as some form of escape hatch if things went to poo poo. Unlike Oscar, Schaffer shows no indication of being an idiot in matters of business.
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# ? Jun 3, 2014 15:14 |
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so floyd - pac can happen now right guys??
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# ? Jun 3, 2014 15:49 |
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thehappyprince posted:so floyd - pac can happen now right guys?? I know you are kidding but Schaffer and Haymon were always the two biggest opponents within GB to dealing with Arum, so given that Floyd is going to team up with them, the answer is a resounding "nope".
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# ? Jun 3, 2014 16:03 |
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Gregor Samsa posted:I know you are kidding but Schaffer and Haymon were always the two biggest opponents within GB to dealing with Arum, so given that Floyd is going to team up with them, the answer is a resounding "nope". Yeah. The only big name fighter that's "free" is Canelo.
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# ? Jun 3, 2014 16:16 |
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Gregor Samsa posted:I know you are kidding but Schaffer and Haymon were always the two biggest opponents within GB to dealing with Arum, so given that Floyd is going to team up with them, the answer is a resounding "nope". To be fair, the answer was always a resounding "nope" before this happened.
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# ? Jun 3, 2014 16:31 |
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The SituAsian posted:Yeah. The only big name fighter that's "free" is Canelo. Isn't Abner Mares too? Maybe we can finally get Donaire/Mares?! (now that no one would give a gently caress about it)
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# ? Jun 3, 2014 16:48 |
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I just want to see Rigondeaux and Lara fight.
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# ? Jun 3, 2014 17:34 |
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KidDynamite posted:I just want to see Rigondeaux and Lara fight. Bit of a size disadvantage there. I know you don't mean it like that
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# ? Jun 3, 2014 18:07 |
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For what it's worth here's a list (according to Wikipedia) of fighters who have been managed by Al Haymon at some point in timehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Haymon posted:
Looking at Golden Boy's current roster the fighters of consequence I'm seeing that aren't both are: http://www.goldenboypromotions.com/fighters/ -Canelo -Perro Angulo -Bernard Hopkins -Zab Judah -Abner Mares -Mauricio Herrera -Victor Ortiz -Jesus Soto Karass -Omar Figueroa -Daniel Ponce de leon And GGG-Geale is official for 7/26 @ MSG. Summer's looking prety nice http://www.boxingnews24.com/2014/06/daniel-geale-to-face-gennady-golovkin-on-726-at-msg/ The SituAsian fucked around with this message at 23:45 on Jun 3, 2014 |
# ? Jun 3, 2014 23:40 |
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Woohoo a GGG fight to enjoy!
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# ? Jun 4, 2014 00:33 |
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Schaefer hosed Golden Boy over. It's unbelievable to me that all those guys were promoted under the Golden Boy banner but didn't have contracts signed. How does that even happen? I would be very surprised if Schaefer didn't have some kind of non-compete clause in his dealings with Golden Boy. I really don't expect him to end up with Mayweather Promotions, or Al Haymon, or whatever is going on over there. Maybe Showtime will hire him??? From what I gather it looks like Haymon will continue to "manage" his signed fighters while Mayweather Promotions will "promote" their fights, keeping Haymon from getting in trouble via the Ali Act which forbids managers from also being promoters. I'm assuming that he'll still be promoting fighters on Showtime. I suspect that Showtime isn't too happy with the way their investments into boxing have gone. They paid a boatload of money for three Mayweather fights and we've only heard the numbers back from the one fight that broke records. It's been a month since Mayweather-Maidana and we've heard not a thing about that fight's PPV sales. They brought Stevenson over and he brought in less viewers than Keith Thurman. They have maybe three fights left on their schedule. Canelo-Lara is now a do-or-die fight for Oscar De La Hoya, it's going to be the first GBP vs Haymon fight. Stevenson-Hopkins looks a lot less likely too. It's hard to tell what will happen with GBP's fighters and Haymon's fighters but to be honest I can't imagine this development leading to good things in boxing. We'll get some fights we otherwise wouldn't have gotten but I expect a lot of Haymon's boxers will be stuck waiting to see who will actually promote their next fight and on what network.
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# ? Jun 4, 2014 22:46 |
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I'm working on a summer thread & a Cotto-Martinez write-up by the way. My p4p list has a lot of revisions to say the least but right now I have it 1) Mayweather 2) Pacquaio and 3) Marquez.
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# ? Jun 4, 2014 22:48 |
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The Ninth Layer posted:I'm working on a summer thread & a Cotto-Martinez write-up by the way. .... I've heard this before. Jokes man looking forward to it.
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# ? Jun 4, 2014 23:32 |
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The Ninth Layer posted:Schaefer hosed Golden Boy over. It's unbelievable to me that all those guys were promoted under the Golden Boy banner but didn't have contracts signed. How does that even happen? If I recall Mayweather Promotions is not licensed in Nevada which means (I believe they can't promote fights other than co promotions as they were doing with Golden Boy). Any sort of non-compete Schaefer may or may not have will be key since, Al Haymon be damned, I can't imagine someone like let's say Leo Santa Cruz can afford both financially and their status in the sport to be locked in Andre Ward lawsuit hell. I don't much care for Showtime both in their boxing and other programming but it's kind of a shame they went all in on boxing and it blew up in their faces since they actually seem interested on growing the sport. Every fighter they were looking to build into a pay per view headliner (Broner, Garcia, Khan and now Stevenson ) has looked awful.Lara outboxing but not out fighting Canelo would be a total disaster.
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# ? Jun 4, 2014 23:44 |
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Lara seems like a really stupid fight to put Alvarez in. What's happened to James Kirkland? That would be a much more logical fight, network bullshit notwithstanding.
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 00:06 |
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Am I the only one who seems to remember Angulo looking pretty good against Lara before he had to quit because of the eye?
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 00:59 |
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doctor thodt posted:Am I the only one who seems to remember Angulo looking pretty good against Lara before he had to quit because of the eye? Yes he definitely did. Which is why it was so odd that he looked like slow horseshit against Canelo.
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 02:31 |
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ozymandius1024 posted:Yes he definitely did. Which is why it was so odd that he looked like slow horseshit against Canelo. perhaps something to do with the fact that canelo loving waled on him at full force with an astonishing work rate from the first second until the ref mercy stopped it?
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 02:39 |
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Marching Powder posted:perhaps something to do with the fact that canelo loving waled on him at full force with an astonishing work rate from the first second until the ref mercy stopped it? Canelo Alvarez and astonishing work rate in the same sentence is something I thought I'd never see.
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 14:10 |
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http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/view.php?pg=canelo-angulo-compubox You have a low threshold for astonishment
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 17:34 |
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fatherdog posted:http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/view.php?pg=canelo-angulo-compubox The most astonishing thing about those stats is that Angulo appeared to be inert dogshit while throwing over 70 punches/round.
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 17:39 |
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ozymandius1024 posted:Yes he definitely did. Which is why it was so odd that he looked like slow horseshit against Canelo. I'm going to get real armchair psychologist here but in the build up to the fight Angulo had to relive a lot painful moments in his life (growing up without a father, being detained in an ICE facility for 7 months) between that and the enormity of his first real big fight it seemed to me like he just froze. Edit: Also Erik Morales retired. Phone posting so I can't link it myself but make sure to check out his fights against Barrera and Pacquiao if you haven't or its been a while. http://m.espn.go.com/deportes/nota?storyId=2103110&src=desktop (link is in Spanish) The SituAsian fucked around with this message at 00:11 on Jun 6, 2014 |
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Lionel Richie posted:Lara seems like a really stupid fight to put Alvarez in. What's happened to James Kirkland? That would be a much more logical fight, network bullshit notwithstanding. It's a really stupid fight risk-wise since Lara could very well embarrass Canelo like Floyd did, but Lara's been calling Canelo out for years and he's the most deserving guy at the weight. I give a lot of credit to Canelo for even taking the fight; he's definitely shown himself to be a guy who would rather lose against great fighters than collect a pretty record and easy paychecks against bums. As for the fight itself, I personally think Lara is overrated by a lot of hardcore fight fans. I always think back to that awful fight with Martirosyan which went to a draw because Lara didn't bother to do anything besides move backwards and potshot. Angulo was a round or two away from stopping him before his broken orbital ended that one. In other news today I wrote 1400 words about one fight. Thread should be up The Ninth Layer fucked around with this message at 10:43 on Jun 7, 2014 |
# ? Jun 7, 2014 00:08 |
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Lionel Richie posted:Lara seems like a really stupid fight to put Alvarez in. So was Trout. Canelo is ballsier than his handlers and it seems like he throws his weight around a bit when there's a fight he particularly wants.
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# ? Jun 7, 2014 00:18 |
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The Ninth Layer posted:In other news today I wrote 1400 words about one fight. Thread should be up where is it geez I want it now hurry gosh
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# ? Jun 7, 2014 21:33 |
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drat Andy Lee went down quick
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# ? Jun 8, 2014 02:10 |
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http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3641277 sorry for the delay!
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# ? Jun 8, 2014 02:17 |
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The Ninth Layer posted:http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3641277 sorry for the delay! Hope I didn't disappoint too much http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3641277
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# ? Jun 8, 2014 02:21 |