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SMILLENNIALSMILLEN
Jun 26, 2009



It was a sad book. Also Winston was never married

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etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Omi-Polari posted:

The socialist utopias of the 20th century were also like this. He referred to the idea as a "central-heated, air-conditioned, strip-lighted Paradise" and "hygenic garden suburb infested by naked schoolmarms." He thought socialism shouldn't waste time trying to imagine some utopian future where everyone is happy all the time.

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

N. Senada posted:

I looked this up and it apparently has a companion videogame and this image is somehow involved



4th square, middle l evel

Zeluth
May 12, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqqBs6kkzHE

Not really.

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here
The guy in Brazil is pretty lame too. Everyone wants to advance his career in the bureaucracy but he just wants to sit around at his useless job and not give a poo poo about anything.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

NoNotTheMindProbe posted:

The guy in Brazil is pretty lame too. Everyone wants to advance his career in the bureaucracy but he just wants to sit around at his useless job and not give a poo poo about anything.

Brazil is a pretty decent movie and cool art direction.

gnarlyhotep
Sep 30, 2008

by Lowtax
Oven Wrangler

String Beans posted:

the dark void of the 1980s. Big Brother would jam on some Hall & Oates while keeping the peasants in line.

lmao

dee eight
Dec 18, 2002

The Spirit
of Maynard

:catdrugs:
So I finally read The Machine Stops today. It's pretty good, and interestingly dark without a lot of effort given to, for lack of a better word, pushing the darkness into the story itself. I highly recommend it.

This is a good one, too:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half_Past_Human

redshirt
Aug 11, 2007

Conservatives read 1984 and go "great ideas!"

For example, Doublespeak = "Fox News, Fair and Balanced" or "Fox News, We report, You decide".

And so on.

Jimby Nougats
May 6, 2009

while 1984 and Brave New World were horrifying in thier own right nothing compaired to the death knells of Disco Music and the accompanying riot and social loving of the youths gyrating mindlessly like nematodes

gnarlyhotep
Sep 30, 2008

by Lowtax
Oven Wrangler

dee eight posted:

So I finally read The Machine Stops today. It's pretty good, and interestingly dark without a lot of effort given to, for lack of a better word, pushing the darkness into the story itself. I highly recommend it.

me too, it's truly amazing for a story written in 1909

basically predicts the internet, video communication, and several other things that weren't even dreamed of at the time

dee eight
Dec 18, 2002

The Spirit
of Maynard

:catdrugs:
Check out half past human, too. It has a similar feel.

e: not the predicting, I mean like it has the same basic idea of The Machine without the omni-potent bit.

redshirt
Aug 11, 2007

katlington posted:

It was a sad book. Also Winston was never married

Sure he was. Didn't she die or something? He hated her, I recall.

Hobohemian
Sep 30, 2005

by XyloJW

gnarlyhotep posted:

me too, it's truly amazing for a story written in 1909

basically predicts the internet, video communication, and several other things that weren't even dreamed of at the time

You want a real mind blower, Jules Verne wrote a book in 1863 called Paris in the Twentieth Century that is ridiculously on point. It was lost for over a hundred years too, and only published in 94'. It even has a protagonist that is a literature major that can't find a job due to his useless degree.

Bugdrvr
Mar 7, 2003

I don't have a big recollection of 1984 but I think that, and this is speaking for the 7 year old I was at the time, it was a good year.

As far as the book. I don't think I've ever read it. Is that the one where people take drugs and screw all the time but that one big whiny baby thinks it's bad and doesn't like it? If so, gently caress that guy. Give me drugs and sex and a nice place to live and I'll happily do whatever you want me to (or not to). I am a horrible human being and I am not ashamed to admit it.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Hobohemian posted:

You want a real mind blower, Jules Verne wrote a book in 1863 called Paris in the Twentieth Century that is ridiculously on point. It was lost for over a hundred years too, and only published in 94'. It even has a protagonist that is a literature major that can't find a job due to his useless degree.

It's pretty cool since the premise is the world has been taken over by sperging tech obsessed engineers/MBAs so things such as art and literature no longer have value.

gnarlyhotep
Sep 30, 2008

by Lowtax
Oven Wrangler

dee eight posted:

Check out half past human, too. It has a similar feel.

e: not the predicting, I mean like it has the same basic idea of The Machine without the omni-potent bit.

Hobohemian posted:

You want a real mind blower, Jules Verne wrote a book in 1863 called Paris in the Twentieth Century that is ridiculously on point. It was lost for over a hundred years too, and only published in 94'. It even has a protagonist that is a literature major that can't find a job due to his useless degree.

I'll check these out, I love this poo poo. thanks!

Neurosis
Jun 10, 2003
Fallen Rib

redshirt posted:

Sure he was. Didn't she die or something? He hated her, I recall.

I can't recall Winston mentioning her dying, I thought they were just separated or something which would be weird given I imagine Party arranged marriages being pretty strictly enforced. But it's been a long time since I read 1984.


Bugdrvr posted:

I don't have a big recollection of 1984 but I think that, and this is speaking for the 7 year old I was at the time, it was a good year.

As far as the book. I don't think I've ever read it. Is that the one where people take drugs and screw all the time but that one big whiny baby thinks it's bad and doesn't like it? If so, gently caress that guy. Give me drugs and sex and a nice place to live and I'll happily do whatever you want me to (or not to). I am a horrible human being and I am not ashamed to admit it.

Nah, that's Brave New World by Aldous Huxley.

Master Twig
Oct 25, 2007

I want to branch out and I'm going to stick with it.
1984 was interesting.

It sparked the start of the synth era for Van Halen, leading to such hits as Jump and Panama, which both heavily featured the synthesizer. But it also showed that Eddie hadn't lost his guitar touch with the fast guitar intro to Hot For Teacher. It produced four hits: Jump, Panama, Hot For Teacher and I'll Wait, but the B-sides Top Jimmy, Drop Dead Legs, Girl Gone Bad and House of Pain are solid tracks in their own right.

The album continued the attitude and in your face instrumentals that made Van Halen famous in the first place. It's usually not considered by most to be their best album, but it is often considered to be their last good album. Mostly due to the fact that it was Van Halen's last album with Davide Lee Roth (until A Different Kind of Truth in 2012, but that album did not feature Michael Anthony on bass.)

A good album and one that anyone interested in the 1980s rock and roll scene should check out.

redshirt
Aug 11, 2007

Master Twig posted:

1984 was interesting.

It sparked the start of the synth era for Van Halen, leading to such hits as Jump and Panama, which both heavily featured the synthesizer. But it also showed that Eddie hadn't lost his guitar touch with the fast guitar intro to Hot For Teacher. It produced four hits: Jump, Panama, Hot For Teacher and I'll Wait, but the B-sides Top Jimmy, Drop Dead Legs, Girl Gone Bad and House of Pain are solid tracks in their own right.

The album continued the attitude and in your face instrumentals that made Van Halen famous in the first place. It's usually not considered by most to be their best album, but it is often considered to be their last good album. Mostly due to the fact that it was Van Halen's last album with Davide Lee Roth (until A Different Kind of Truth in 2012, but that album did not feature Michael Anthony on bass.)

A good album and one that anyone interested in the 1980s rock and roll scene should check out.

I don't feel tardy.

gnarlyhotep
Sep 30, 2008

by Lowtax
Oven Wrangler

Master Twig posted:

1984 was interesting.

It sparked the start of the synth era for Van Halen, leading to such hits as Jump and Panama, which both heavily featured the synthesizer. But it also showed that Eddie hadn't lost his guitar touch with the fast guitar intro to Hot For Teacher. It produced four hits: Jump, Panama, Hot For Teacher and I'll Wait, but the B-sides Top Jimmy, Drop Dead Legs, Girl Gone Bad and House of Pain are solid tracks in their own right.

The album continued the attitude and in your face instrumentals that made Van Halen famous in the first place. It's usually not considered by most to be their best album, but it is often considered to be their last good album. Mostly due to the fact that it was Van Halen's last album with Davide Lee Roth (until A Different Kind of Truth in 2012, but that album did not feature Michael Anthony on bass.)

A good album and one that anyone interested in the 1980s rock and roll scene should check out.

hell yeah, I wore that cassette tape out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im31A5yqKw8

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zfqw8nhUwA

Yes, it was that bad.

redshirt
Aug 11, 2007

gnarlyhotep posted:

hell yeah, I wore that cassette tape out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im31A5yqKw8

I saw VH live on the 1984 tour. Totally awesome.

Hobohemian
Sep 30, 2005

by XyloJW

A commercial making a reference to a book. I wonder how many decades it's been since that has happened.

gnarlyhotep
Sep 30, 2008

by Lowtax
Oven Wrangler

redshirt posted:

I saw VH live on the 1984 tour. Totally awesome.

yeah, I'm envious :argh:

Neurosis
Jun 10, 2003
Fallen Rib
In 1984 Iron Maiden released Powerslave, arguably their best album, with standout tracks Aces High, Rime of the Ancient Mariner and the title track, so that made it a pretty good year.

Master Twig
Oct 25, 2007

I want to branch out and I'm going to stick with it.

Neurosis posted:

In 1984 Iron Maiden released Powerslave, arguably their best album, with standout tracks Aces High, Rime of the Ancient Mariner and the title track, so that made it a pretty good year.

Don't forget two minutes to midnight.

Powerslave really was great.

Whiskey Sours
Jan 25, 2014

Weather proof.

Neurosis posted:

In 1984 Iron Maiden released Powerslave, arguably their best album, with standout tracks Aces High, Rime of the Ancient Mariner and the title track, so that made it a pretty good year.

Neurosis is good people.

Baiku
Oct 25, 2011

Hobohemian posted:

A commercial making a reference to a book. I wonder how many decades it's been since that has happened.

3 decades hth

baw
Nov 5, 2008

RESIDENT: LAISSEZ FAIR-SNEZHNEVSKY INSTITUTE FOR FORENSIC PSYCHIATRY
the circle is the new 1984 and tbqh it is happening already. we are all big brother

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White Noise Marine
Apr 14, 2010

Neurosis posted:

In 1984 Iron Maiden released Powerslave, arguably their best album, with standout tracks Aces High, Rime of the Ancient Mariner and the title track, so that made it a pretty good year.

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