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Guys, we have to stand up for uber! http://www.gop.com/act/support-uber-petitionquote:Our country was built on the entrepreneurial spirit. Our cities deserve innovative and effective solutions without government getting in the way.
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I am fairly sure I hit edit, but it was not!
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Kalman posted:I'm just curious why it's important for Uber but not for taxi drivers. I mean, the purpose of the regulations you want is to provide an equal requirement on Uber as on the existing oh-so-safe taxicabs, right? I don't give a gently caress about taxi drivers? I'm saying it's a raw loving deal for someone driving their own car.
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Which side are you on?  https://twitter.com/GroverNorquist/status/481884814535303168 
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Trabisnikof posted:Guys, we have to stand up for uber! http://www.gop.com/act/support-uber-petition Uber is now a Republican driven project. This makes this whole thing a lot easier.
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I can't wait to see Uber's numbers tank amongst their primary demographic because the Republicans spend all day associating with it
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Aug 6, 2014 20:09
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Nonsense posted:Uber is now a Republican driven project. This makes this whole thing a lot easier. "We need to connect with young people" -My grandson likes abusing women, starting fights, oh and he tries this new taxi thing, Goober, Uber? Something like that. "We already support the first two, but let's look into this Uber thing."
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Aug 6, 2014 20:10
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Radbot posted:I don't give a gently caress about taxi drivers? I'm saying it's a raw loving deal for someone driving their own car. Then maybe they should get collision insurance? I mean, it's a raw deal for other people in Virginia who decide not to get collision insurance, but I don't actually feel sorry for them because they didn't get collision insurance.
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Nonsense posted:Uber is now a Republican driven project. I've only been saying this all thread.
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Main Paineframe posted:So you're complaining that DC taxis don't have consistent appearance or licensing requirements, ignore laws they don't like, and go unpunished by regulators...and your solution is to bring in a service with no appearance or licensing requirements which openly states its intention to ignore any laws it doesn't like but which you want regulators to not punish? more like "neither of them are playing by the rules so I'll pick the one where the service at least benefits me"
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I don't know anything about my taxi driver but I know my Uber driver has a history of making bad decisions so that's also a factor.
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Aug 6, 2014 20:40
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Trabisnikof posted:Guys, we have to stand up for uber! http://www.gop.com/act/support-uber-petition Well there goes all the goodwill of the people who live in cities.
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Kalman posted:Then maybe they should get collision insurance? I mean, it's a raw deal for other people in Virginia who decide not to get collision insurance, but I don't actually feel sorry for them because they didn't get collision insurance. Which collision insurance should they buy? The one for licensed for hire drivers, or the one for personal insurance? Because they are neither. Jesus gently caress, quit being so contrarian when you don't even understand what you're talking about nor read my posts.
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Radbot posted:Which collision insurance should they buy? The one for licensed for hire drivers, or the one for personal insurance? Because they are neither. I'm actually wondering if one of the regulations VA is going to put in permanently is a new class of car insurance in VA to officially make something to cover the gap. Right now I'm guessing the "you're covered even when you don't have a fare" portion is just an ad-hoc ruling or a concession Uber/Lyft have made internally.
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axeil posted:I'm actually wondering if one of the regulations VA is going to put in permanently is a new class of car insurance in VA to officially make something to cover the gap. Right now I'm guessing the "you're covered even when you don't have a fare" portion is just an ad-hoc ruling or a concession Uber/Lyft have made internally. IIRC being covered when you have the app open and don't have a fare is a concession that Uber/Lyft have made in order to prevent outside regulation. This came about after an Uber driver hit and killed a six-year-old girl while trying to pick up a fare on New Year's Eve. He hadn't picked up a fare yet so Uber disavowed themselves of responsibility, then later expanded their insurance coverage so that they would cover incidents like these in the future. The lawsuit against them for this particular incident is still going on, though.
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Radbot posted:Which collision insurance should they buy? The one for licensed for hire drivers, or the one for personal insurance? Because they are neither. I suspect that they can find commercial collision insurance (though it's questionable whether it's required,MIT is dependent on the specifics of a policy). I suspect the insurance companies will be more than happy to sell it to them. Why do I suspect that? Well, they've said they'd be happy to do so.
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Oh OK, that totally answers it. Some company said they would do something. Forcing people to buy commercial insurance will honestly probably drive most UberX/Lyft drivers out. Those policies are very expensive, and people who only drive on the weekends or after work likely won't find it worthwhile.
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Kalman posted:I suspect that they can find commercial collision insurance (though it's questionable whether it's required,MIT is dependent on the specifics of a policy). I suspect the insurance companies will be more than happy to sell it to them. Yeah, if you read that page you'd notice: quote:In all states except California, we’re unable to offer a standard policy to TNC drivers. So only because of the CPUC's regulations, which Uber still violates, Esurance is able to offer a standard policy.
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api call girl posted:I've only been saying this all thread. In Houston Uber/Lyft regulations passed 10-5-(2 abstain). Out of the 5 no votes, there were 2 Republicans (Kubosh, Christie, for those who care) and 3 Democrats (Bradford, Davis, Laster). The two abstaining votes were both Republicans who opposed the new regulations. Just based on this anecdotal data from one city that has dealt with Uber, Republicans tend to oppose Uber at a higher rate then Democrats, mostly because they're old and technology scares them.
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Trabisnikof posted:Yeah, if you read that page you'd notice: Yes. That's because they don't sell commercial insurance. However, as that same page notes, their partner Allstate sells commercial insurance. So in CA, standard insurance suffices, and everywhere else they will (through a partner) sell you commercial insurance. I fail to see the issue.
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Kalman posted:Yes. That's because they don't sell commercial insurance. However, as that same page notes, their partner Allstate sells commercial insurance. The issue is your attitude of "let them eat cake".
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Kalman posted:Yes. That's because they don't sell commercial insurance. However, as that same page notes, their partner Allstate sells commercial insurance. Uber still violates the CPUC's TNC regulations and Uber fights requiring that their drivers have commercial insurance tooth and nail, that's the issue.
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Trabisnikof posted:Uber still violates the CPUC's TNC regulations and Uber fights requiring that their drivers have commercial insurance tooth and nail, that's the issue. Virginia cabs don't have to have collision insurance either. Are you upset that Virginia taxicab companies would fight similar requirements being imposed? Is the issue that Uber isn't subject to the same regulations as cabs, or that you don't like commercial drivers not having to carry collision insurance? api call girl posted:The issue is your attitude of "let them eat cake". Not to mention that, since Virginia is a fault state, UberX drivers only have to pay out of pocket for damage to their vehicle when it's their fault in the first place, so, yes, gently caress them in that circumstance.
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Kalman posted:Virginia cabs don't have to have collision insurance either. Are you upset that Virginia taxicab companies would fight similar requirements being imposed? No businesses are going to fight the creation of new regulation, I would have an issue if VA required collision insurance and taxicabs refused to comply once the regulation was in effect.
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Necc0 posted:I also live in DC and besides the occasional closing-time dry spell I haven't had any issues. Well one time a cabby wouldn't accept credit cards so I didn't get in. Good thing I asked him first! Don't ask until you get to your destination. If it's "broken" then say you don't have cash and just get out. You'd be surprised how many of those card readers miraculously fix themselves. If not you just got a free ride.
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Radbot posted:Oh OK, that totally answers it. Some company said they would do something. Well yeah, you up your risk profile massively by doing this. It's why for most people getting into being an UberX etc driver was never a good idea to begin. This just makes the actual risk incurred by doing this much more apparent.
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Nintendo Kid posted:Well yeah, you up your risk profile massively by doing this. It's why for most people getting into being an UberX etc driver was never a good idea to begin. This just makes the actual risk incurred by doing this much more apparent. Welp, I agree with Nintendo Kid. I think I quit.
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just encountered an Uber next to my workplace, this guy with a bluetooth earpiece was trying to tell these two drunk ladies coming out of a bar that he was their driver, while they testily asserted that he was not and that their driver had said he would meet them nearby but not right there. anecdotes and whatnot, but lol.
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Nevada: we don't need Uber, we just need a less stupid climate around existing services. The author also writes for national papers and spent the past few years covering DC for Politico, which is why the story opens with an RNC anecdote. Seems this is how the cab cartel here exists alongside a private town car industry: quote:Uber’s biggest impediment in Vegas is also the stupidest rule, that customers must reserve a town car or limo an hour in advance and pay for a minimum of an hour’s use. How much business and money have properly licensed limo drivers lost because they were forced to idle despite the existence of willing customers? It's funny that I actually have seen limos (or "limos" like giant stretch SUVs) doing nothing after somebody paid extravagant money to move one a 20 minute distance. The state Taxi Authority is being sued by a watchdog group for various acts of corruption, which I guess is about the best that can be done about an unelected position.
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Remember guys, not only does Uber have to fight against "big taxi" using illegal tactics because *reasons* but Uber has to fight "big Lyft" using illegal tactics too: http://money.cnn.com/2014/08/11/technology/uber-fake-ride-requests-lyft/quote:New data provided by Lyft, a competitor, shows that Uber employees have ordered and canceled more than 5,000 Lyft rides since last October. The data was provided to CNNMoney per a request made when reporting another story on the competition between the two companies.
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/\ It is nice how they are able to phrase around the truth with what they are doing. Seems they have the money for lawyers or think they can fix their image later on if people find out.quote:Uber staffers in New York called and withdrew over 100 ride requests with another taxi app, Gett, in the span of three days. After that incident, Uber said in a statement that they would "tone down their sales tactics."
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So, the good and decent registered/licensed limo hailing app is about to go through the regulatory hurdles in NV. In addition to the cost of the vehicle, the app plans to charge you $5 a ride for doing all the work of calling a car company and telling them where you are. 
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And Uber has responded:http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/08/12/accusations-fly-between-uber-and-lyft/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0 posted:Lyft's claims against Uber are baseless and simply untrue. Furthermore, Lyft's own drivers and employees, including one of Lyft's founders, have canceled 12,900 trips on Uber. But instead of providing the long list of questionable tactics that Lyft has used over the years, we are focusing on building and maintaining the best platform for both consumers and drivers.
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It's hard to take Uber at its word here, given that they already admitted to doing this exact tactic earlier this year. http://valleywag.gawker.com/ubers-dirty-trick-campaign-against-nyc-competition-cam-1508280668
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Re: valuation chat earlier: http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-08-07/silicon-valley-tech-entrepreneurs-behind-the-stereotype quote:“In New York there’s pressure to have a house in the Hamptons or send your kids to private school. The high-status thing here isn’t to drive a superfancy car or have a big house or new clothes. It’s to angel invest. The bigger the risk, the better.” Yes, they’re obsessed about how much each other’s companies are valued at, but that’s their highly competitive way of keeping score. "
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http://www.pennlive.com/nation-world/2014/09/uber_driver_allegedly_pulls_gu.htmlPennLive posted:"That employee asked the Uber driver to move forward to park in a designated space, at which time an altercation ensued," Atlanta police spokesman Ralph Woolfolk told Channel 2.
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Oh this thread! I'd usually make some comment mocking Uber now, but this time I think they did enough on their own:Uber sued for allegedly refusing rides to the blind and putting a dog in the trunk posted:An advocacy group for the blind is suing the app-based ride-sharing service Uber, alleging the company discriminates against passengers with service dogs.
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Every ninety seconds, a taxi driver shoves a service dog into his trunk. But do you ever hear about that? No, of course not. BIG TAXI controls the newspapers and TV stations. Wake up sheeple!
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