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Defleshed
Nov 18, 2004

F is for... FREEDOM
being an Army prosecutor is probably the very pinnacle of blue falconism guys

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EBB
Feb 15, 2005

Close second. MPs are worse.

Cole
Nov 24, 2004

DUNSON'D
The guy in that pic with her was my division commander at Campbell.

http://terminallance.com/2012/08/03/terminal-lance-internet-authority-marine-corps-times/

Cole fucked around with this message at 23:51 on Dec 27, 2014

GreenMeat
Sep 2, 2002
slow mutant

I've known her for years; she's pretty cool IRL. She's always been one to speak up and wave the bullshit flag, usually on behalf of her soldiers...she ain't afraid to tell the emperor he's naked.

She knew she'd be catching endless poo poo as soon as DA decided to run this thing up the flagpole and put her on display like a MoH winner on a war bonds tour, but she's got thick skin and she'll get over it.

calmasahinducow
Oct 31, 2004
i am a pirate of the high seas

Defleshed posted:

I definitely don't think an ARCOM was warranted in this situation, but in my opinion she for sure did the right thing. It kind of makes me laugh actually... The idiotic mouth-breathing bullshit I see posted in Army Times comments (among many others) by dipshits with pics of themselves in full uniform (often with their unit of assignment visible as well) is astounding. I am completely unashamed to say I have used global to directly email people I have seen showing their asses in publicly viewable comments and told them to knock that poo poo off. I do not give a single gently caress if someone thinks that's not "the real Army" or whatever. We can kill people without being loving cavemen.

e: also merry christmas guys I have been drunk for a week straight, I think my wife left a couple days ago? not sure

fwiw, I agree with this 100%.

sforzacio
Nov 6, 2012

calmasahinducow posted:

fwiw, I agree with this 100%.

samesies.

the same people a-bloo-a-blooing about this are probably the same people who went into a frothing rage about the instagrams about avoiding colors.

Nimmy
Feb 20, 2011

Soon young Melvin.
Your time will come.

Because apparently 1SGs are too good for COAs or... what the gently caress, there's people who get AAMs for deployments. And that's McConville in the picture too isn't it. God dammit.

tyler
Jun 2, 2014

Army gay as hell.

Triggs
Nov 23, 2005

Tango Down!

Nimmy posted:

McConville in the picture too isn't it. God dammit.

Looks like it. What's bad about McConville?

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
youre telling me someone is being given an award based on their rank, and not their accomplishment? :kiddo:

Zeris
Apr 15, 2003

Quality posting direct from my brain to your face holes.

7777777 posted:

youre telling me someone is being given an award based on their rank, and not their accomplishment? :kiddo:

Smaj with license plate: BRONZE STAR-MERITORIOUS

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Whenever I see a bronze star license plate, I want to give the driver the benefit of the doubt, but deep down I know that the only person who would ever bother to get a bronze star license plate isn't someone who earned it for valor.

e: The only E7 in my unit who got a BSM was the piece of poo poo PSG who was relieved for being retarded. The PSG who replaced him, as well as my PSG, didn't get one because they were only E6(P) at the time they were submitted, and the last guy was retiring after we got back so they decided it wasn't worth their effort to approve him for any award.

psydude fucked around with this message at 15:47 on Dec 30, 2014

Zeris
Apr 15, 2003

Quality posting direct from my brain to your face holes.

psydude posted:

Whenever I see a bronze star license plate, I want to give the driver the benefit of the doubt, but deep down I know that the only person who would ever bother to get a bronze star license plate isn't someone who earned it for valor.

e: The only E7 in my unit who got a BSM was the piece of poo poo PSG who was relieved for being retarded. The PSG who replaced him, as well as my PSG, didn't get one because they were only E6(P) at the time they were submitted, and the last guy was retiring after we got back so they decided it wasn't worth their effort to approve him for any award.

They will normally say Meritorious or Valor. If they don't, then the answer is obvious.

not caring here
Feb 22, 2012

blazemastah 2 dry 4 u
The most ridiculous example of this is I saw a specialist who had an arcom with valor and a purple heart on his erb. I was told that he had managed to live through some pretty crazy poo poo, but because he was an E2 at the time an arcom was all that he was gonna get.

I'm sure bronze stars were thrown around by battalion staff congratulating each other on their heroic efforts.

Mike-o
Dec 25, 2004

Now I'm in your room
And I'm in your bed


Grimey Drawer
My buddy managed to get a bronze star with v-device. Every single other bronze star in our entire battalion were for E7 and above. A couple of them deserved it, the rest were cocksucking fucks. At the worst some of them got people killed because of how stupid they were and deserve to loving die horrible deaths.

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

our only bsm was for the office e7 who put himself in for it

hes also married to a major, no clue how that worked out

acidia
Oct 31, 2012
Sorry to derail but is there not some sort of building codes department for army bases? The barracks I'm in hasn't had hot water in (3+?) weeks now. We've submitted the work order to the department of public works but they have been waiting for a mysterious 'part' to come in. No one knows what said 'part' is nor when it might arrive... They've been by a couple of times to fix the issue but alas, the 'part' is missing. We're pretty sure they have no loving idea what is wrong but I can't find anyone in my chain of command that gives enough of a poo poo to look into it. I'm hoping there is an actual plumber that took the month off and will magically show up on the 1st of January to solve our problems but I doubt it.

Whipped Buttcheeks
Jul 25, 2007
Chairborne Ranger
I love award time. It's the easiest way to tell who's a cockgoblin. The best Os and senior NCOs tend to not give a gently caress. One of the best NCOs I ever worked with burned his end of tour award paperwork right after we got it because he felt that all he did was his job and the campaign medal was enough. Which box some rear end in a top hat O6 whose name you'll never remember checks or doesn't check shouldn't define your service.

The worst of us tend to be the ones who go out and get the license plate or whatever. We had one dude who, after coming back from deployment, had his (meritorious) Bronze Star re-presented to him at some kind of welcome home circlejerk that was covered in the local news.

Cole
Nov 24, 2004

DUNSON'D

acidia posted:

Sorry to derail but is there not some sort of building codes department for army bases? The barracks I'm in hasn't had hot water in (3+?) weeks now. We've submitted the work order to the department of public works but they have been waiting for a mysterious 'part' to come in. No one knows what said 'part' is nor when it might arrive... They've been by a couple of times to fix the issue but alas, the 'part' is missing. We're pretty sure they have no loving idea what is wrong but I can't find anyone in my chain of command that gives enough of a poo poo to look into it. I'm hoping there is an actual plumber that took the month off and will magically show up on the 1st of January to solve our problems but I doubt it.

Lmfao. I am so glad to be out of the loving army if for no other reason the lovely loving barracks life.

100 degrees in June? We will turn the a/c on soon. But we won't tell you when. Ask five different people when and you'll get five different answers.

My water didn't even loving turn on when I got back from Afghanistan. I made a YouTube video about it and someone snitched to the 1sgt (or maybe he was on the Web trying to get an arcom) and I got my rear end reemed.

But the water got fixed that same loving day!

Cole
Nov 24, 2004

DUNSON'D

acidia posted:

Sorry to derail but is there not some sort of building codes department for army bases? The barracks I'm in hasn't had hot water in (3+?) weeks now. We've submitted the work order to the department of public works but they have been waiting for a mysterious 'part' to come in. No one knows what said 'part' is nor when it might arrive... They've been by a couple of times to fix the issue but alas, the 'part' is missing. We're pretty sure they have no loving idea what is wrong but I can't find anyone in my chain of command that gives enough of a poo poo to look into it. I'm hoping there is an actual plumber that took the month off and will magically show up on the 1st of January to solve our problems but I doubt it.

Quoting this again just because lmfao

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Whipped Buttcheeks posted:

I love award time. It's the easiest way to tell who's a cockgoblin. The best Os and senior NCOs tend to not give a gently caress. One of the best NCOs I ever worked with burned his end of tour award paperwork right after we got it because he felt that all he did was his job and the campaign medal was enough. Which box some rear end in a top hat O6 whose name you'll never remember checks or doesn't check shouldn't define your service.

The worst of us tend to be the ones who go out and get the license plate or whatever. We had one dude who, after coming back from deployment, had his (meritorious) Bronze Star re-presented to him at some kind of welcome home circlejerk that was covered in the local news.

Our most worthless PL was ovearheard by his roommate while at DEMOB demanding that a car dealership offer him a special rate because he was a bronze star recipient. He then went out and got the license plate, too.

This is a guy who abandoned his project site after taking a single rocket (which exploded in the middle of nowhere like 100m from where they all were) and refused to work the next day. It's also the same guy who almost shot my roommate during a power outage because he was convinced the Taliban had cut the power to the base and were climbing over the walls.

Justin Tyme
Feb 22, 2011


Cole posted:

Lmfao. I am so glad to be out of the loving army if for no other reason the lovely loving barracks life.

100 degrees in June? We will turn the a/c on soon. But we won't tell you when. Ask five different people when and you'll get five different answers.

My water didn't even loving turn on when I got back from Afghanistan. I made a YouTube video about it and someone snitched to the 1sgt (or maybe he was on the Web trying to get an arcom) and I got my rear end reemed.

But the water got fixed that same loving day!

We eventually booted out the civilians and had brokedicks running the FSBP office, things went notably faster after that.

Gooble Gobble
May 2, 2011

One of us

acidia posted:

Sorry to derail but is there not some sort of building codes department for army bases? The barracks I'm in hasn't had hot water in (3+?) weeks now. We've submitted the work order to the department of public works but they have been waiting for a mysterious 'part' to come in. No one knows what said 'part' is nor when it might arrive... They've been by a couple of times to fix the issue but alas, the 'part' is missing. We're pretty sure they have no loving idea what is wrong but I can't find anyone in my chain of command that gives enough of a poo poo to look into it. I'm hoping there is an actual plumber that took the month off and will magically show up on the 1st of January to solve our problems but I doubt it.

Are you on Ft. Carson by any chance? Because my barracks had literally the same problem before I went on leave, so who knows if it's been fixed yet.

bulletsponge13
Apr 28, 2010

Two E-4s in my section were put in for Silver Stars, and were downgraded to BSM/Vs, when asked why, our BC said flat out E4s don't rate Silver Stars.

Cole
Nov 24, 2004

DUNSON'D

bulletsponge13 posted:

Two E-4s in my section were put in for Silver Stars, and were downgraded to BSM/Vs, when asked why, our BC said flat out E4s don't rate Silver Stars.

Well yeah it dilutes that e9's silver star for being in a convoy that hit an ied

Mike-o
Dec 25, 2004

Now I'm in your room
And I'm in your bed


Grimey Drawer
That's exactly what happened to my buddy with the bronze star.

Justin Tyme
Feb 22, 2011


bulletsponge13 posted:

Two E-4s in my section were put in for Silver Stars, and were downgraded to BSM/Vs, when asked why, our BC said flat out E4s don't rate Silver Stars.

There seriously needs to be a loving congressional investigation into this poo poo, both ways with the downgrading of awards because of rank and unwarranted self-written BSMs.

not caring here
Feb 22, 2012

blazemastah 2 dry 4 u

Justin Tyme posted:

There seriously needs to be a loving congressional investigation into this poo poo, both ways with the downgrading of awards because of rank and unwarranted self-written BSMs.

Just do what I do. Just assume that anything without a valor device is worthless.

I don't think I've ever been proven wrong with that one.

Case in point: I've never gotten anything with valor, and I never did anything important.

Zeris
Apr 15, 2003

Quality posting direct from my brain to your face holes.

Justin Tyme posted:

There seriously needs to be a loving congressional investigation into this poo poo, both ways with the downgrading of awards because of rank and unwarranted self-written BSMs.

This is how it's been for 8+ years; once the yearly rotations became both the status quo and foreseeable future, this poo poo became standard. It's just another symptom of a much broader issue.

Full Battle Rattle
Aug 29, 2009

As long as the times refuse to change, we're going to make a hell of a racket.
Why not just give all E-8s and above silver stars for a deployment award

O7 and above get a medal of honor

gently caress it

Woof Blitzer
Dec 29, 2012

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Cole posted:

Lmfao. I am so glad to be out of the loving army if for no other reason the lovely loving barracks life.

100 degrees in June? We will turn the a/c on soon. But we won't tell you when. Ask five different people when and you'll get five different answers.

My water didn't even loving turn on when I got back from Afghanistan. I made a YouTube video about it and someone snitched to the 1sgt (or maybe he was on the Web trying to get an arcom) and I got my rear end reemed.

But the water got fixed that same loving day!

Cool story: I was counseled and got yelled at by my 1SG for having an air conditioning unit because the a/c wasn't on yet.

Painsaw
Jul 3, 2008

Butts lol
Also had the chance to be present when my bc said privates don't rate silver stars. Also, we had medics not get CMBs just because they didn't feel like doing paperwork. And then a dude in my platoon got a certificate of achievement for an 18 month deployment that included our gently caress gently caress games in sadr city.

Wonder what kind of poo poo storm an inquiry about reward rank expectations would stir up.

Gooble Gobble
May 2, 2011

One of us

https://www.facebook.com/usawtfm/posts/10152987759633606

Woof Blitzer
Dec 29, 2012

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Zeris
Apr 15, 2003

Quality posting direct from my brain to your face holes.

Defleshed
Nov 18, 2004

F is for... FREEDOM
I only know one guy with a BSM w/V. He is a Major, does not have license plates, and he is the chillest dude of all time. He became a good friend a couple years ago during my first mobilization, as he was the SGS at the time where I worked. I found out through others who deployed w/him about what he had done and then went and read his award and it was some maniac poo poo. Like "lone dude with a 9mm against a platoon of insurgents" poo poo. The people that really earn those awards don't run their mouths about them (or get screwed out of them all together).

I got a loving MSM for doing my job for a year last year. Awards do not mean poo poo, especially in the Army.

Defleshed fucked around with this message at 23:58 on Dec 31, 2014

bulletsponge13
Apr 28, 2010

I my platoon we had (no joke here, you can call me full of poo poo, but I can show sources) 4 BSM w/V, a Silver Star, and and ARCOM w/V.
The dude with the SS tried to get the two BSMV that I mentioned before upgraded after he went OCS and worked at the Pentagon and was told that since they were E4s "not in positions of leadership" they didn't rate a change.
Our mythical Congressional Investigation wouldn't do poo poo if it is that institutionalized.

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EBB
Feb 15, 2005

EVA BRAUN BLOWJOBS posted:

gently caress the army

qtiyd

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