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Young Freud posted:And before him, Klaus Von Bulow. If anything, Dershowitz would be the recurring villain. I found this somewhat amusing. quote:In 1976, Dershowitz handled the successful appeal of Harry Reems, who had been convicted of distribution of obscenity resulting from his acting in the pornographic movie Deep Throat. In public debates, Dershowitz commonly argues against censorship of pornography on First Amendment grounds, and maintains that consumption of pornography is not harmful.[22]
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I seriously want to see this man literally crucified. God, how can this poo poo not get a bigger reaction, how can people like him not fear walking in the streets.
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Feb 3, 2015 04:59
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Ron Paul Atreides posted:I seriously want to see this man literally crucified. They don't walk the same streets as you. Also this is what happens when you bump into your betters, let alone trot up with a crucifix and some nails. http://www.theguardian.com/politics/video/2014/oct/27/david-cameron-protester-leeds-video
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Feb 3, 2015 11:44
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Ron Paul Atreides posted:I seriously want to see this man literally crucified. I don't have a clue about the charges themselves, but it's pretty clear that EI is letting their dislike of him motivate their coverage, just like people smeared Assange for what seemed/seem like clearly trumped up charges.
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Feb 3, 2015 11:55
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Kim Jong Il posted:I don't have a clue about the charges themselves, but it's pretty clear that EI is letting their dislike of him motivate their coverage, just like people smeared Assange for what seemed/seem like clearly trumped up charges. If Assange wasn't a rapist, he would have at least actually denied being a rapist, instead of whining about how Sweden was "the Saudi Arabia of feminism." Dershowitz is at least smart enough to unequivocally deny everything.
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Feb 3, 2015 16:03
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yeah i think its been long enough for leftists to admit to themselves that assange did ignore his partners' consent. hilarious timing though
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Feb 3, 2015 16:07
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A big flaming stink posted:yeah i think its been long enough for leftists to admit to themselves that assange did ignore his partners' consent. the rich and powerful cannot be trusted, regardless of their espoused affiliation. Assange may like pissing of the US but he's part of the same incestuous inclub of elites that do poo poo like this.
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Feb 3, 2015 17:05
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I don't think wealth or power make you into a pervert or a rapist, it just means that perverts and potential rapists are more likely to act on their urges if they think they can get away with it (which they probably can if they have wealth or power).
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Feb 3, 2015 18:12
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Ron Paul Atreides posted:Assange may like pissing of the US but he's part of the same incestuous inclub of elites that do poo poo like this. Wait, how does this work?
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Feb 3, 2015 18:14
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The Warszawa posted:Wait, how does this work? The dude's rich, white and famous and thus can expect to get away with a lot of poo poo, leading to a huge sense of entitlement?
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Feb 3, 2015 18:30
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PT6A posted:I don't think wealth or power make you into a pervert or a rapist, it just means that perverts and potential rapists are more likely to act on their urges if they think they can get away with it (which they probably can if they have wealth or power). Or it could just be that the kind of people who are have the drive for that kind of power are sociopaths who would have no problem with rape.
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Feb 3, 2015 18:43
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Cerebral Bore posted:The dude's rich, white and famous and thus can expect to get away with a lot of poo poo, leading to a huge sense of entitlement? I just don't see how Assange fits, as (as far as I know) he was neither rich nor famous when he committed the act in question, though I may be mistaken as to either of those points, and even insofar as he was famous, he wasn't famous in the "elite circle that escapes the scrutiny of law" way.
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Feb 3, 2015 18:46
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The Warszawa posted:I just don't see how Assange fits, as (as far as I know) he was neither rich nor famous when he committed the act in question, though I may be mistaken as to either of those points, and even insofar as he was famous, he wasn't famous in the "elite circle that escapes the scrutiny of law" way. The accusations against him came after the whole Colleteral Murder brouhaha and the release of the Afghanistan War logs, so Assange definitely was internationally famous at that point. On closer reflection he probably wasn't rich, though.
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Feb 3, 2015 18:54
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Cerebral Bore posted:The accusations against him came after the whole Colleteral Murder brouhaha and the release of the Afghanistan War logs, so Assange definitely was internationally famous at that point. On closer reflection he probably wasn't rich, though. Right, but that's not really the kind of fame we're talking about, is it? If anything, that's the kind of fame that comes from antagonizing the "inclub of elites." I just think it's a flawed thesis.
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Feb 3, 2015 18:56
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The Warszawa posted:Right, but that's not really the kind of fame we're talking about, is it? If anything, that's the kind of fame that comes from antagonizing the "inclub of elites." Eh, I'd say that fame is fame when it comes to getting away with bad poo poo. For example, a random joe schmoe would probably not have gotten away with rape by way of getting political asylum at an embassy.
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Feb 3, 2015 19:01
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FRINGE posted:That one is not some Icke-level "maybe". You can watch what was recovered of the video at that documentary link. The link on the documentary website doesn't work anymore - here's a new youtube link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtstlx96s8M I'm not shocked that high-end sociopaths would take part in this stuff, it takes that level of sociopathy to make it to the positions of power these folks are in.
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Feb 3, 2015 19:05
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Cerebral Bore posted:Eh, I'd say that fame is fame when it comes to getting away with bad poo poo. For example, a random joe schmoe would probably not have gotten away with rape by way of getting political asylum at an embassy. That's actually a good point. There is no way Assange could've gotten asylum otherwise.
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Feb 3, 2015 19:10
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I assume intelligence agencies knew all about this type of behavior from our elite. I would even go as far as to assume they even encouraged it in some instances to gather black mail/leverage to turn these people into assets. Anyways what else was David Icke right about? What's next, Clinton comes out as a inter-dimensional Lizard?
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Feb 3, 2015 19:34
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The Warszawa posted:Right, but that's not really the kind of fame we're talking about, is it? If anything, that's the kind of fame that comes from antagonizing the "inclub of elites." The elite circles of influence in the world aren't one monolithic entity, and you can get into one by antagonizing another. At a certain level of wealth, influence or even popularity, people begin to get isolated from the consequences of their actions, usually through the connections they make. Invariably this leads to abuses. I will however recant on this though, looking more into it seems like it's more likely just run of the mill cultural sexism that might lead him to not conceiving of what he had done as rape.
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Feb 3, 2015 19:56
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Montasque posted:I assume intelligence agencies knew all about this type of behavior from our elite. I would even go as far as to assume they even encouraged it in some instances to gather black mail/leverage to turn these people into assets. They absolutely do (or at least it's unlikely they'd give up a useful tactic like that), but not so much pedophilia and rape as drunk driving and honey-traps.
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Feb 3, 2015 20:06
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The Warszawa posted:Right, but that's not really the kind of fame we're talking about, is it? If anything, that's the kind of fame that comes from antagonizing the "inclub of elites." You are right, it's a classic over-application of the model which you will often find ideologues doing. Male + White beeep booop equals privileged- it's the lefts particular brand of anti-intellectualism and identity politics. Cerebral Bore posted:The dude's rich, white and famous and thus can expect to get away with a lot of poo poo, leading to a huge sense of entitlement? Basically this statement boils down to "famous people get away with things" which is kinda like, duh? How exactly do you know how his skin color mattered and to what degree? You don't, you're just guessing based on your preexisting biases. This is the sort of anti-intellectualism I am talking about, the "gut feeling" type of thing we make fun of the republicans for.
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tsa posted:You are right, it's a classic over-application of the model which you will often find ideologues doing. Male + White beeep booop equals privileged- it's the lefts particular brand of anti-intellectualism and identity politics. I know because there's been quite a lot of research on the subject of whether skin color matters in the judicial system (and the court of public opinion, for that matter), and the results are pretty unambiguous. The rest of your post is just you being kinda dense on purpose. But I suppose that this is where you retreat into anti-intellectualism because reality doesn't conform to your biases.
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tsa posted:How exactly do you know how his skin color mattered and to what degree? Have you been paying attention to police activity for the past, I don't know, 60 years against blacks? Or the prison population? Don't be so lazy with fancy stuff like "lefts particular brand of anti-intellectualism" when you don't even understand the context of white privilege. Being white rocks. So does being rich.
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Feb 3, 2015 20:46
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He's right though. Suggesting Adsanbgr behaved the way he did because he is part of some "elite" or because he is white doesn't make very much sense. Elites, especially white ones, get away with some heinous poo poo and that emboldens them but trying to take every case of sexual assault ever and then explaining it through race and class is silly. There are plenty of poor rapists of none European descent in the world. Saying Assange did what he did because he is white or an elite makes you sound like a right wing parody of leftism. I think there is an obvious connection between male privilege and Assange's behaviour but some of the other comments being made here are pretty drat silly.
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Helsing posted:He's right though. Suggesting Adsanbgr behaved the way he did because he is part of some "elite" or because he is white doesn't make very much sense. I think I was getting him confused with Dominic Strauss-Kahn tbh  I wasn't fully paying attention when I was posting and I think my brain connected something stupid. From reading, yeah, Assange doesn't fit, he probably did it but just because he didn't really think about where to draw the line, but I don't think he was being 'smeared' like Kim Jong Il was saying. Nor do I think this is a smear campaign against Dershowitz, especially considering the record of his statements shows he has really hosed up views on women and victims of rape in particular, to say nothing of his contacts with people like Epstein.
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It's also a bit misleading to say that Assange "got away with it" , when he fled the jurisdiction until he was out of reach.Buckwheat Sings posted:Have you been paying attention to police activity for the past, I don't know, 60 years against blacks? Or the prison population? Don't be so lazy with fancy stuff like "lefts particular brand of anti-intellectualism" when you don't even understand the context of white privilege. Applying the United States's history of police abuse in and of minority communities to the case of a white Australian charged in a Swedish court and faced with extradition from the UK only to escape via asylum from Ecuador seems a bit off point to me. This is also all a digression from the case at issue, though.
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Montasque posted:Anyways what else was David Icke right about? What's next, Clinton comes out as a inter-dimensional Lizard? 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtncDnCRPYo Yellow King
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Feb 10, 2015 04:55
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what in the gently caress is this?
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Feb 10, 2015 05:23
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olin posted:what in the gently caress is this? Here are more videos of these kids. Is it true? I don't know - but from what they say it should be pretty easy to prove.
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https://www.change.org/p/the-rt-hon-theresa-may-mp-return-whistleblower-kids-and-abuse-survivors-of-london-school-to-their-russian-family ?
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what the gently caress...??!
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