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Patattack
Nov 23, 2008

The English Language!
I often forget about the sheer amount of work that goes into a movie (or TV show, or video game, or whatever) - and the wide variety of individual pieces that need to come together in order for it to work. Unfortunately, most people tend to judge a work as "good" or "bad" as a whole, without taking into account all of those separate pieces.

From now on, whenever I see a movie that I dislike, I am trying to actively identify at least one thing about it that is good and worthwhile. Here are a few that I've come up with so far.

The Last Airbender
This movie was poorly acted, written, and directed. It whitewashed the casting of a racially-diverse source material, and managed to suck every ounce of whimsy and character development out of the cartoon it was based on. However, the prop, set, and costume designers really did an excellent job taking a cartoon and bringing it into the real world. The design was visually lush, and had an incredible amount of background detail and texture that made the settings and characters feel authentic.


Cool As Ice
This was a vehicle for Vanilla Ice in his heyday, so you know it's going to be hot garbage. Naturally, the story was dumb, and pretty much all of the performances were awful. However, it was competently shot, and had some truly nice-looking scenes. Turns out, the cinematographer was Janusz Kamiński, who went on to work on Schindler's List and Saving Private Ryan, among others. Also, I loved his doofy posse and the equally doofy mechanic who tries fixing their motorcycles, and the surreal set of the mechanic's repair shop.


Frank
Not a bad movie, but it really wasn't my cup of tea. However, I loved the original songs that Frank's band performed, and Michael Fassbender's performance was fantastically weird, and totally unidentifiable as him under the mask. Here's one of the better songs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOt6ppIBOd4

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Tiberius Thyben
Feb 7, 2013

Gone Phishing


Can we say cool things in otherwise terrible games, or is that more for the little things in games thread?

Patattack
Nov 23, 2008

The English Language!

Tiberius Thyben posted:

Can we say cool things in otherwise terrible games, or is that more for the little things in games thread?

Naw, go for it! "Movies" was just a convenient shorthand for "movies/TV/games/anything else", and "Terrible" was a convenient shorthand for "you didn't like it for whatever reason".

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Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

In the terrible Green Lantern movie, he shows up in costume to talk to his girlfriend (or ex or whatever she is in the movie) and she immediately recognizes him in his little domino mask.

Patattack
Nov 23, 2008

The English Language!
Terminator 3
The deleted scene showing the origins of the T-800 is hilarious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kayFrIR-Qfw

AFewBricksShy
Jun 19, 2003

of a full load.



I didn't much care for Charlie Wilson's War. I'm not a big Julia Roberts fan, and I didn't really like seeing Tom Hanks playing a guy who is kind of a creep.

That said, I'll watch it every time I see it on, because Phillip Seymour Hoffman is loving fantastic in it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQ_4m2ocxhI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZXtCHoRb50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHNZUmdqdv8

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Celery Face
Feb 18, 2012
I was surprised to hear that Constantine is a bad movie because the only parts I've seen are when Peter Stormare plays the devil. Peter Stormare is really good at stealing scenes (of course, upstaging Keanu Reeves can't be too difficult).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rVFse1LLQs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJgOxY_3qII

AFewBricksShy
Jun 19, 2003

of a full load.



Celery Face posted:

I was surprised to hear that Constantine is a bad movie because the only parts I've seen are when Peter Stormare plays the devil. Peter Stormare is really good at stealing scenes (of course, upstaging Keanu Reeves can't be too difficult).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rVFse1LLQs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJgOxY_3qII

I really liked Constantine, and for people who liked the comics, I've heard that if you treat it as Constantine's American cousin it becomes enjoyable again. Even Shia LeBeauf was decent in it. Added to that Tilda Swinton and Stormare being awesome, it's a very enjoyable movie. Although I seem to be in a minority that likes Keanu Reeves.

A CRUNK BIRD
Sep 29, 2004
There's a really good Bob Dylan song at the beginning of Watchmen. Since it's right at the beginning you can just shut the movie off when the song is over, or you can buy the mp3 on amazon or iTunes

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
There's like one half-second of competence in Shark Tale, and the father of the gay shark is a pretty good character who--if it were a Pixar film--would have been murdered instead of allowed to mend things with his doofy gay shark son. Also we can assume Jack Black had a good time on it because he came back to voice act in the absolutely incredible Kung Fu Panda. Otherwise it is a tornado of sucking, which cannot possibly be distilled better than in this .gif of a pufferfish:



who was voiced by, and I am not loving with you here, Martin Scorsese.

Horace Kinch
Aug 15, 2007

I liked the Podracing in The Phantom Menace, and the N64 game that was spawned from it was equally awesome.

Celery Face
Feb 18, 2012
Turok Evolution is a bad game. It looks and feels like it was released halfway through development. But the weapons that you use to wreck the dinosaurs and lizardmen are crazy and satisfying. The final boss is a General Custer stand-in riding a T-Rex armed with flamethrowers. It also has one of my favourite game soundtracks too. Fit perfectly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veVarpGfQdo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LruKZlkOeZ8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QE-jnTEe3Ps

Inzombiac
Mar 19, 2007

PARTY ALL NIGHT

EAT BRAINS ALL DAY


sitchelin posted:

I liked the Podracing in The Phantom Menace, and the N64 game that was spawned from it was equally awesome.

I like you. That's was such a fun game and the final race against Sebulba was TENSE.

PunkBoy
Aug 22, 2008

You wanna get through this?
Episode 1 Racer was awesome. I remember the asteroid base (?) level where there's a big jump and you have to control your pod in low gravity for a decent stretch.

Speaking of Star Wars games, The Phantom Menace game was really bad, but being able to run around Mos Espa on your own and potentially kill everyone you meet was a surprise. I think it's possible to get into a failed game state if you kill enough people that Anakin refuses to help you.

Supreme Allah
Oct 6, 2004

everybody relax, i'm here
Nap Ghost
Hector vs Achilles duel in TROY one of the best fights randomly dropped in the middle of a pile of crap movie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80SsC_ZNbyI

And the scene immediately after that, its like they were lifted out of a way better movie

One reason its awesome is that up till now all of Achilles fights have lasted about 2 seconds, and Hector comes out and pushes him, love Brad Pitts facial expressions of surprise and confusion

Supreme Allah has a new favorite as of 23:50 on May 22, 2015

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

Supreme Allah posted:

Hector vs Achilles duel in TROY one of the best fights randomly dropped in the middle of a pile of crap movie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80SsC_ZNbyI

And the scene immediately after that, its like they were lifted out of a way better movie

One reason its awesome is that up till now all of Achilles fights have lasted about 2 seconds, and Hector comes out and pushes him, love Brad Pitts facial expressions of surprise and confusion

The music in that sequence is really nicely done I feel. I like the bit s of Troy I've seen, but that's mostly the fight scenes, I gather the rest is the lovely bit.

My favourite bits of bad movies are the overactors who are being well-paid for this poo poo movie and just having a whale of a time chewing the scenery. Jeremy Irons in Dungeons and Dragons has always been a favourite.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OL4w__Vqdjg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BV3roWM0DSs

Firstborn
Oct 14, 2012

i'm the heckin best
yeah
yeah
yeah
frig all the rest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Zu1YIukylw
Anybody seen Richie? This scene is great, and the rest of the movie and Steve's career is awful.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FAkFepEuVk
The intro to the first Wolverine movie. Liev Shrieber is legitimately the only good part about it beyond that.

The bit in The Hulk when Tim Roth runs ahead of all of the other soldiers with his superhuman abilities, giving everyone a hint about how cool it'd be to see Captain America on screen.

E: Raul Julia in Street Fighter. He did it for his kids, he was dying, and he is the absolute best part of it.

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Supreme Allah
Oct 6, 2004

everybody relax, i'm here
Nap Ghost

thespaceinvader posted:

The music in that sequence is really nicely done I feel. I like the bit s of Troy I've seen, but that's mostly the fight scenes, I gather the rest is the lovely bit.

This is the follow-up scene and it's got no violence but so much good acting. It's mind boggling that Troy was so bad a movie but just had 15 minutes of random awesome shoved into it

Achilles talks to Hectors dad King Priam after killing him (hector) and shows respect to Hector

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9JflLov1bY

Celery Face
Feb 18, 2012
The CGI in Shark Boy And Lava Girl was on par with an Eiffel 65 music video (it came out in 2005) and the acting was extremely wooden. But the kid who played the bully was obviously having the time of his life. There's this one line from him that my sister and I would rewind over and over again because it made us laugh so hard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7tiwkcd0qY

Professor Wayne
Aug 27, 2008

So, Harvey, what became of the giant penny?

They actually let him keep it.
Lois and Clark is a hilariously bad show. But it has the best Perry White.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqJzPjjpAqI

I've only seen the trailer, and the movie looks like complete garbage. But "shoot him, he is the vampire" is a solid joke, even if they ruin it a second later. Skip to about 2:08. Please do not watch this entire trailer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGqYpl0DiWc

Verily I Shat
May 24, 2015

by Smythe

Tiberius Thyben posted:

Can we say cool things in otherwise terrible games, or is that more for the little things in games thread?

PYF - Just talk about games in every thread

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

Celery Face posted:

The CGI in Shark Boy And Lava Girl was on par with an Eiffel 65 music video (it came out in 2005) and the acting was extremely wooden. But the kid who played the bully was obviously having the time of his life. There's this one line from him that my sister and I would rewind over and over again because it made us laugh so hard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7tiwkcd0qY

This is a kid who loves his life.

C-Euro
Mar 20, 2010

:science:
Soiled Meat

sitchelin posted:

I liked the Podracing in The Phantom Menace, and the N64 game that was spawned from it was equally awesome.

I like the lightsaber fights in every prequel movie, if I could buy a super-cut of those on Blu-Ray I'd seriously consider it.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
Try https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NE5elL30w4 and its various sequels. Much better choreography.

Sarcopenia
May 14, 2014
I absolutely loooathe the 1999 remake of "The Haunting" but that said the moment that she looks in to the mirror and smiles is really uncanny and weird.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyPF-BmNQjQ



Also, Owen Wilsons deathscene is hlarious. Liam Neeson's reaction is AMAZING.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6ffGVe63c0

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow
The 1982 remake of Cat People mostly sucked, but the David Bowie/Giorgio Moroder theme song was pretty great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpdHMaccjw4

Fight Club Sandwich
Apr 29, 2006

you want a piece of me???
Nicholas cage punching a bear.gif

Diesel Fucker
Aug 14, 2003

I spent my rent money on tentacle porn.

Fight Club Sandwich posted:

Nicholas cage punching a bear.gif

This raises a good question. If a poo poo film is full of amazing moments is it truly a poo poo film?

Yes. The answer is yes.

Accordion Man
Nov 7, 2012


Buglord
Alternatively Nic Cage punching people in the face while dressed as a bear.

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The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

Lasher posted:

This raises a good question. If a poo poo film is full of amazing moments is it truly a poo poo film?

Yes. The answer is yes.

Aside from stuff like that, the Wicker Man remake is really boring and mostly involves Nicholas Cage going around talking to people who won't explain anything.

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