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In Final Fantasy Dimensions the characters are labeled Warriors of Light and Warriors of Darkness and you play both sides. Does that count?
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Aug 12, 2016 21:04
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Final Fantasy Dimensions is a lovely phone game for lovely people that are poo poo.  In all seriousness, it's a game I haven't played, mainly because I don't play video games on my phone. And I wasn't even aware of it until you brought it up. That being said, I only had the mainline Final Fantasy in mind, when I wrote about the Warriors of Light and Dark, because that's where Dissidia draws all of it's material from. In fact there aren't any characters from any side games like Final Fantasy Tactics or Mystic Quest in Dissidia. If only you could play as Ramza the Double King.  Although Dimensions is more of a duality between Light and Dark, as opposed to Weak Dark vs Strong Light. But yeah I'd say it counts. Incidentally having given the matter further thought, I'll have to go back and amend some statements. It could be argued for instance that FF5 is Weak Dark vs Strong Light, in relation to FF3. The Warriors of Darkness emerged in FF3 when the Crystals of Light were abused and misused which resulted in Bad Things(tm). Litereally almost the same setting as FF5. FF5 had the Warriors of Dawn(Not Bartz) seal Exdeath into the Crystals of Light. That is not how you treat pillars of your world!  Humans also had a tendency to abuse the Crystals, trying to draw power from the Crystal of Fire. Of course that plan went bad too. I mean Exdeath is certainly Dark and he had his hand in the destruction of the Crystals, but he was still severely limited in what he could do, you know due to being sealed in a glorified glass canister. Mankind certainly didn't help. In the end the Crystals are destroyed and Bad Things(tm) happened. So you could argue that Bartz and his group of warriors were Warriors of Darkness though they recieved their powers from the Crystals of Light (Or whatever shards were left).
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Aug 13, 2016 01:25
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I'm curious as to what you think of the new Dissidia game coming out, considering they'll have Ramza in it. They also have Y'shtola from XIV in it summoning Ifrit which is  .
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Aug 18, 2016 17:43
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I haven't really looked into the new Dissidia game because it's an arcade game and to be released for PS4. I'm a Actually since FF13 burned me, I've sort of given up on the Final Fantasy franchise. Possibly because I'm just not the target audience anymore. I fully expect 15 to be poo poo. Like it wouldn't even surprise me in the slightest. And that's without having even seen any game trailers for it.
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Aug 19, 2016 17:06
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I postponed this update because I didn't want to record commetary for a 1 minute fight.  Also call me Trump, because I just built the greatest wall of text.   Report 7 posted:World: A Oh man, where do I even begin with this one? So this report heavily references Final Fantasy 1. I guess it's best to take it chronologically. So Final Fantasy 1 was, of course, the first Final Fantasy. It was literally the game that saved Square from bankruptcy. A key difference between the plot in Final Fantasy 1 and Dissidia's take on it, is that there were 4! Warriors of Light. But that's not the focus point right now. I'll discuss it when we'll be dealing with the Warrior of Lights chapter. Next up is The Four Fiends. Who the gently caress are these assholes and why should you care? This is obviously heavy spoilers for Final Fantasy 1 but that game is hella old so I don't give a hoot. I'm not even gonna spoiler tag it. So in Final Fantasy 1, the very first thing the party does is defeat Garland. You might be wondering why the first boss of FF1 is also the villain representing it in Dissidia. Because JRPG reasons and time travel. I'm not kidding. Are you ready for some time travel paradox? I'm not, but here we go. *deep breath* So when Garland is defeated, the Four Fiends shows up, after the Warriors of Light leaves him to bleed out. They take Garland 2000 years back in time so that he can become Chaos and subsequently create the Four Fiends. The Four Fiends are then sent into various time periods to steal the Elemental Crystals power so Garland can transform into Chaos. The actual chronology of these events are basically this: 2000 Years ago -> Garland is brought back, and becomes Chaos, who then creates the Four Fiends. 400 Years ago -> The Fiend of Wind steals the Wind Crystals power 200 Years ago -> The Fiend of Water steals the Water Crystals power Present -> The Fiend of Earth steals the Earth Crystals power. The Warriors of Light appears and defeats Garland who then gets sent back to 2000 years ago. The Warriors of Light defeats The Fiend of Earth and the Fiend of Fire awakens too early, but steals the Fire Crystals power anyways. So this is a time loop. A cycle if you... DISSIDIA IS RIPPING OFF FINAL FANTASY 1? OH MY GOD I'M DONE LP OVER GUYS. Also please ignore the time paradoxes okey? I don't want anyone to get Chrono Trigger'd. Yeah you're laughing now, but just you wait until time travel becomes possible. I bet there'd be social injustice over what time you lived in or some poo poo. Anyways. That's the The Four Fiends. Then we have Lukahn, who all things considered aren't all that important. Just some guy who serves to plot dump on the player. He has more backstory, but it's unimportant. So that means that Final Fantasy 1 has 2 villains representing it. Cheaters - You think I'm done? Ha! That was just the Report text. So Cloud going up against Chaos? A parallel can be drawn to Cloud fighting Sephiroth in Niflheim. Sephiroth was the strongest soldier known to man at the time. Also both events catalyzed by Tifa. Alright I'm done now.
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Aug 23, 2016 05:18
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Double posting because the last post was super long. With Report 7 out and done with, we can officially kiss Duodecim goodbye. That doesn't mean there won't be more reports. Oh no, but we are done with them for now. Next up is Dissidia for reals this time.
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Aug 23, 2016 05:21
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And then there's the fact that Dissidia's world map is actually FF1's, implying that it's set on the world of FF1. Edit: Despoiled Eighties ZomCom fucked around with this message at 13:24 on Aug 24, 2016 |
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Aug 23, 2016 10:14
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Oh yeah, I completely forgot about that. Although there is more to it. But that's revealed in future reports. Not that it's a big secret considering we've alreasy seen a portal to another dimension. Oh also people getting revived is not normal world behavior. If your world is starting to repeat itself, and ressurect dead people. Then go see your God at the earliest convenience.  Also I think it's fine if you despoil that.
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Aug 23, 2016 17:34
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Looking forward to seeing the original Dissidia game.
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Sep 24, 2016 16:47
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So another 3 months without an update. Yeah I got nothing. So instead of making excuses for myself, I'll just tell you the next update is encoding as we speak. And will be up as soon as it's done and when I remember my youtube login. What? It's been 3 months.
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Nov 24, 2016 15:24
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Episode 15 We finally begin Dissidia proper. The Duodecim crew is dead and buried and the reports have filled in the missing blanks. The Warrior of Light is our new Lightning. Except he is nothing like Lightning in either playstyle or story capacity. Anyways, this is just the introductory chapter to Dissidia, but Square has made a rather uncharacteristic choice of opening up the game a bit and giving the player some choice in proceeding with the story. Since this is rarer than leap years I've made the decision to leave the choice of which character to play, up to you. Well within certain parameters. As the last cutscene showed us, the cast is seperated into various groups. And that's exactly what you'll be voting for. Every group has their own mini storyline so it's for the sake of keeping the narrative somewhat coherent. So here are the groups to vote for:Group 1: Terra Bradford [FF6]/Kefka Palliwhateverhisfuckingnameisgawd Onion Knight [FF3]/Cloud of Darkness Group 2: Cloud Strife[FF7]/xXx.:SephirothSlayer:.xXx  Cecil Harvey[FF4]/Golbez Tidus[FF10]/Jecht Firion[FF2]/The Emperor (Squall Lionheart[FF8])/Ultimecia Group 3: Zidane[FF9]/Kuja Bartz[FF5]/Exdeath  "Group 4": The Warrior of Light[FF1]/Garland Whichever group has the most votes will win at whatever arbitrary deadline I won't tell you about. I'll play a hearthstone duel as a tiebreaker with Shibbotech in the case of a tie. Unless there's like 3 groups with the same amount of votes. Then gently caress I don't know. I can't have everything planned out. I guess we'll just have anarchy then. 
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Nov 24, 2016 17:15
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Group 3. Incidentally, you seem to have swapped which games Bartz and Cecil are from in that writeup.
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Nov 24, 2016 17:22
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Whoops yeah, you're right. For some reason I always get those two mixed up.
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Nov 24, 2016 19:19
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Group 3. And I find it amusing that the Warrior of Light counts as a group by himself.
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Nov 24, 2016 19:24
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Technically Squall is also solo, but he ends his chapter joining Group 2
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Nov 24, 2016 19:54
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I will vote Group 1.
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Nov 25, 2016 03:53
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Alright, so Zidane and I guess we needed a break from all the seriousness and have a Seriously Fun Treasure Hunt
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Nov 28, 2016 09:09
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I'm looking forward to a treasure hunt.
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Jan 24, 2017 17:11
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Episode 16 I need to get checked for all the attention disorders or something, as this keeps happening when it shouldn't. Maybe I should start a twitter to have people complain about me when I don't update. Nevertheless it's an update. As the thread voted for it's Group Treasure Fun. I decided to start off with Zidane, as his side of the little story works better as a fundament to Bartz, than vice versa. Join me, as Zidane and Bartz go looking for their crystals. It also dawns upon me how little I really know about FF9. Or maybe how little that game interested me. Even looking up on the wiki gave me nothing. Maybe it's just the rust from not having updated in 2 months.
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Jan 30, 2017 22:10
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Wow, you nearly got beaten by Kefka there. And can I assume the "lion" is Squall?
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Mar 25, 2017 21:35
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Almost getting beaten by an enemy is gonna happen to me alot. It's because I treat HP as a margin for error, where having less hp means I have to play better. I think I've mentioned it before, but the AI does tend to favor HP attacks more when they have the kill, which is good as they become more predictable. Atleast for low level play like we are still seeing. Mid to high level play is gonna be different, though some characters change more than others. Yeah. the "lion" is Squall Leonheart
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Apr 1, 2017 19:31
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Episode 17 After having fought an insane clown, Zidane continues his quest to find Bartz. On his way, we find an idiot, fight Final Fantasy Vegeta, and follow mysterious guiding lights. --- So I've mentioned before that Dissidia has really good voice acting, but it isn't until Shibbotech pointed out that Garland sounds vaguely familiar He is actually voiced by Christopher Sabat, the same dude who voices Vegeta. Zidane is voiced by Bryce Papenbrook, who has a ton of game voice acting roles. Squall is voiced by Doug Erholtz, who also has a ton of voice acting roles, but is also Squalls voice actor in Kingdom Hearts 2 In fact I think it's pretty safe to say that any character who had a voice in their original game, also have the same voice actor. On the female side we have: Tasia Valenza voicing Ultimecia. She is also the voice of Poison Ivy in Batman Arkham Asylum and Arkham City. Cosmos is voiced by Veronica Taylor, who has a ton of anime roles. I'm not leaving anyone out because they aren't a big name voice actor, but because I don't want to quote all of IMDB. The talent is immense. Though I wouldn't recommend checking out the IMDB page because of possible spoilers.
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Apr 11, 2017 04:13
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I think that basically all the character development that doesn't really happen to Zidane (since he just rolls with whatever) is probably going to be happening to Kuja, who has kind of a unique outlook among series villains, I think?
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Apr 15, 2017 07:06
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Looking at the group choices before, I definitely didn't expect Squall to be joining this group. I'm sure it won't be for too long.
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Jun 11, 2017 14:18
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I think in FF9, the focus is on pretty much everyone, but Zidane. Zidane doesn't really have character growth as much as he has a sudden new motivation. There's Vivi and the artificial black mages Garnet and redefining herself as someone more than just her social status Steiner does... something? maybe? Much like Dissidia, FF9 is amongst the weaker areas of my Final Fantasy knowledge. Unfortunately, Dissidia doesn't take the missed character growth from Zidane and pour it into Kuja. So in that regard, I think Zidanes chapter is worse than other characters.
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Jun 15, 2017 19:37
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Episode 18 After another embarrasing 3 months, and having sat on this video for 2 weeks, I finally get my poo poo together and update. We are done with Zidane for now. Somehow or another, murdering Kuja allowed him to get his crystal. This is totally not going to be a predictable theme. With that out of the way, we can move on to Bartz. What did happen to him after all? Hey, you know how anime sometimes have recursive time loops that gets reaaaaaaally loving old, real fast? I sure hope this isn't going to become a thing here too.
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Jul 19, 2017 19:25
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Sazero posted:Hey, you know how anime sometimes have recursive time loops that gets reaaaaaaally loving old, real fast? Time loop you say?
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