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Snak posted:Yeah, I mean, it sucks, but if it was sentimentally or historically irreplaceable, it was the dumbfuck who loaned it out's fault. More directly, it's the propmaster's fault. If it was important and it was one of a few items that were not props and were borrowed antiques, everyone should have been informed about it. A Goon rented or sold his classic 1940's car for the last Indiana Jones movie. I think it was the one that smashes into the statue of Marcus Brody when Indy and Transformer boy are being chased by KGB agents. He wasn't aware they were going to wreck it.
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Krispy Kareem posted:A Goon rented or sold his classic 1940's car for the last Indiana Jones movie. I think it was the one that smashes into the statue of Marcus Brody when Indy and Transformer boy are being chased by KGB agents. He wasn't aware they were going to wreck it. And that's sad for him. But if you are letting something that you personally value leave your posession, is it not prudent to find out or take steps to control what will happen to it? Like, I'm not saying that anyone deserves to have something they care about destroyed. I'm saying "I loaned an antique to a movie company and they destroyed it!" isn't some kind of betrayal, it's "did you loan something out without having in writing what was and wasn't okay for them to do with it?" Is that not how this works? edit: and furthermore, if something is literally irreplacible to you because of sentimental or historical value, don't loving loan it out. period. Just don't loving do it. If it's irreplacible, don't do it. If it has a dollar value, have the poo poo in writing that makes it clear. If it is irreplaceable and you still want to loan it out, somehow, make personally connections with the people who are going to be handling it and make sure that you trust them. Until the story is "I was best friends with Quentin Tarantino and he promised me that he wouldn't let anything happen to my priceless guitar, and he didn't bother to tell the people who would be handling it that it was important" there's not a bad guy here. There's an unfortunate tragedy cause by poor communication. Snak fucked around with this message at 07:37 on Feb 8, 2016 |
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Feb 8, 2016 07:33
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I guess I don't understand the logic of using the original at all, and not one of the 10 props. Authenticity for the .0003 percent of the audience that studies classical acoustic instruments?
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Feb 8, 2016 17:24
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Because Tarantino geeked out about using the real deal, if I had to guess.
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Feb 8, 2016 17:41
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I wondered WTH was going on with Daisy's reaction to the guitar smash when I first saw it, didn't fit with her character at all.
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Drowning In Terror posted:I wondered WTH was going on with Daisy's reaction to the guitar smash when I first saw it, didn't fit with her character at all. I thought her reaction was a nice little touch of humanity shining through. Like she let her guard down for a split second and was forced to experience an unexpected emotion.
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Efexeye posted:I guess I don't understand the logic of using the original at all, and not one of the 10 props. Authenticity for the .0003 percent of the audience that studies classical acoustic instruments? Actors from Inglorious Basterds said that their uniforms had period money and keys and such stuffed into the pockets because Tarantino thinks it helps with performance, so it doesn't seem unusual that he would pay attention to detail with regard to the guitar JJL was using. I think it's unfortunate too that people are arguing that JJL's reaction was "genuine" in that sequence because that detracts from the fact that she acted her loving rear end off in that film and I don't believe that 99.9% of the audience would know the difference between an actual reaction from her and the rest of her performance in that film.
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Feb 9, 2016 22:55
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Steve2911 posted:I thought her reaction was a nice little touch of humanity shining through. Like she let her guard down for a split second and was forced to experience an unexpected emotion. One of my favorite interplays is the way Daisy brightens up when she first sees "Oswaldo Mobray" waiting for them in the cabin but later when he gives his big hangman speech you can tell she's genuinely unnerved.
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Feb 10, 2016 01:59
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Snak posted:And that's sad for him. But if you are letting something that you personally value leave your posession, is it not prudent to find out or take steps to control what will happen to it? Oh, I agree. I was just recounting a goon's first hand experience. If I'm recalling correctly he sold the car, but was told he could buy it back for a nice profit after the shoot. At some point the production decided to wreck it, but that was fully in their rights. I think most goons were annoyed they choose to wreck a classic automobile when they could have just added .01% to their CGI budget. Then they saw how good a movie it was and realized it was totally worth it. EDIT: corrected my spelling. Krispy Wafer fucked around with this message at 19:20 on Feb 10, 2016 |
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Krispy Kareem posted:I think most goons were annoyed they choose to wreck a classic automobile when they could have just added .01% to their CGI budget. Then they say how good a movie it was and realized it was totally worth it. I refuse to believe that Indy 4 can be worth anything.
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InfiniteZero posted:I think it's unfortunate too that people are arguing that JJL's reaction was "genuine" in that sequence because that detracts from the fact that she acted her loving rear end off in that film and I don't believe that 99.9% of the audience would know the difference between an actual reaction from her and the rest of her performance in that film. She was great throughout the film, but I would actually expact different reactions in these scenarios: a) Somebody just smashed up a guitar and b) somebody just destroyed a priceless historic museum piece. Although IIRC her reaction wasn't too overdone in the context.
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Here are some H8 action figures, if you want them: http://www.necaclub.com/category-s/1884.htmTHE BAR posted:I refuse to believe that Indy 4 can be worth anything. The only good scene was the fridge nuke, but I'm probably alone there.
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Feb 10, 2016 22:25
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 This belongs in my life.
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Red posted:The only good scene was the fridge nuke, but I'm probably alone there. No, that was the only good part. Indy rushing into the tract house and realizing it's full of mannequins is as close to classic Indiana Jones as that film got. Maybe it was lame compared to past movies, but it was "boulders chasing you through a cave awesome" compared to what came later.
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Feb 10, 2016 22:43
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I liked it when he missed his swing and said "thought it was closer."
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Krispy Kareem posted:No, that was the only good part. Indy rushing into the tract house and realizing it's full of mannequins is as close to classic Indiana Jones as that film got. I don't really ever need to see the movie again. Nothing about it really sticks with me, other than the fake town. All I remember is crap: CGI fire ants, CGI monkeys, the magnetic stuff that floats through the warehouse, the weird psychic torture chair, fencing between two moving vehicles, aliens in big chairs, and ... meh. Even the skull-faced natives attacking didn't work, because nothing about it was especially fun, creative, or nostalgic. The entire film is just moving from thing to thing, because it needs to. Edit: Indy should've gone to Argentina to rescue some bauble from Nazis in hiding. That poo poo would've ruled.
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Steve2911 posted:
I think everyone needs a little Tim Roth in their life.
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InfiniteZero posted:Actors from Inglorious Basterds said that their uniforms had period money and keys and such stuffed into the pockets because Tarantino thinks it helps with performance, so it doesn't seem unusual that he would pay attention to detail with regard to the guitar JJL was using. I saw the guitar smash a couple of times. Nothing unusual about here reaction in the movie, IMO. *If*....one knows before hand and watches it, it might add a little of a perception. It's was another scene in the movie. Nothing unusual by her. And yes, I thought she was acted very well in the movie.
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Given this a second watch now. I think the only thing that really bugs me about it is the out of place slow-mo. Like, I get the bullet time shootings, but the awful slow talking is extremely out of place. Especially when Marquis carries on speaking in slow motion after the scene has resumed full speed. Was it purely for laughs? Because it's not funny. Also I really hope Tarantino was trying to make a point about the status of women with that last shot. If not, wow.
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Harime Nui posted:One of my favorite interplays is the way Daisy brightens up when she first sees "Oswaldo Mobray" waiting for them in the cabin but later when he gives his big hangman speech you can tell she's genuinely unnerved. Theoretically her character might've started thinking she was going crazy or was in purgatory or something, with all the familiar faces but nobody was helping her.
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It's probably more like it's not really amusing to have your friend talk about how, if you did get hanged, it would be justice.
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Snak posted:It's probably more like it's not really amusing to have your friend talk about how, if you did get hanged, it would be justice. My friends have had that discussion and they were right on the money
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Coffee And Pie posted:My friends have had that discussion and they were right on the money I'm not sure I'm quite understanding you... are you saying your friends thought that if you were to be hanged it would be justice, and they were right? Cause that's kinda funny. Also sad.
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That exchange is my favourite use of the word 'dispassion'. Which doesn't get used enough.
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Snak posted:I'm not sure I'm quite understanding you... are you saying your friends thought that if you were to be hanged it would be justice, and they were right? yes, I believe this is what Earthlings refer to as a "joke"
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Steve2911 posted:Given this a second watch now. I think the only thing that really bugs me about it is the out of place slow-mo. Like, I get the bullet time shootings, but the awful slow talking is extremely out of place. Especially when Marquis carries on speaking in slow motion after the scene has resumed full speed. Was it purely for laughs? Because it's not funny. Late reply but yes I took the final moments to be about the place of women in the world. I mean ultimately the only thing that united the black and white man, who fought in opposite sides of the war, is their shared hatred for a woman. It's a grim joke they end on, followed by the lie of the Lincoln letter.
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