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I'm sure you've all been told (or told someone else) that you're TOO GODDAMN LOUD, but have you ever taken it upon yourself to turn down someone else's amp? At rehearsal our rhythm guitarist was telling the bassist he was too loud and needed to come down. Maybe he was but it didn't seem too bad to me or to the other guitarist. Anyway, half way through a song he walks over to the bass head and turns it down. Now I'm a drummer so I don't know all the ins and outs of being a guitarist but loving with another guy's amp seems like a dick move. Like a "you just crossed the line" move. Is it? I'd think it would be like a lead singer propping a foot up on your bass drum. Which will get a lead singer's rear end kicked.
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To be honest it sounds like you're all pretty uptight about working with each other. if I was trying to make music with someone who was so precious about anyone touching their poo poo it wouldnt last very long. it's a collaborative effort, touch everyone's poo poo all the time and try to make it a team effort to find that middle ground. I just started working with people who come over and start loving about with knobs on my synth and it's great because sometimes we find new things that work better i wouldn't have thought of, and I gently caress with the guitarists tone (and levels) and the drummers samples all the time. sometimes we agree, sometimes we don't but it's part of the process. Also lol at the singer getting his rear end kicked for putting a foot on a bass drum. how many times i've seen touring bands do this, it's hard to believe they get their rear end kicked every night. What would you do if the singer picked up a couple drum sticks during practice and went crazy on the cymbals during an intense bit? Would you go with it and practice how to make it work in one track (or say 'good effort but i dont feel that works') or would you straight up 'kick his rear end'? cubicle gangster fucked around with this message at 17:26 on Dec 23, 2015 |
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Dec 23, 2015 17:19
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The singer in one of my old bands once took it upon herself to go to my board to do the "wiggle all the effects knobs to make stupid sounds" thing at the end of a show once except she didnt know which knob did what so she just turned the sound off entirely.
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Dec 23, 2015 18:41
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I'd say that stuff is pretty normal OP, because guitarists / bassists tend to stand next to their amp in practice sessions and it's impossible to tell how loud you are a bit further away, in the actual area the other members can hear your volume properly. We tend to do this for each other as a matter of habit, as it helps you sit in the mix better and benefits everyone.
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Dec 25, 2015 00:32
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It's pretty common to do in a Pre-Production / rehearsal environment. One of the bands I recorded last month actually asked me if I could fiddle with the equipment on the go because, while they've recorded demos and stuff, they had never actually used middle-tier / somewhat-expensive heads and such. It was pretty funny watching them get bemused with all the "over the top" gear they had access to. 
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Dec 27, 2015 15:57
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you know you're in a band that's going places when you develop a pre-show/pre-rehearsal docking ritual as a bonding exercise
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Dec 27, 2015 16:29
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peter gabriel posted:I'd say that stuff is pretty normal OP, because guitarists / bassists tend to stand next to their amp in practice sessions and it's impossible to tell how loud you are a bit further away, in the actual area the other members can hear your volume properly. Maybe so, I'd just never seen it happen and it struck me as being akin to just picking up a guy's guitar and playing it without asking. Maybe I'm uptight but I can't imagine doing that.
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Dec 27, 2015 21:48
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praxis posted:Maybe so, I'd just never seen it happen and it struck me as being akin to just picking up a guy's guitar and playing it without asking. Maybe I'm uptight but I can't imagine doing that. It sort of is, but again that'd be absolutely fine with my circle of people. I guess it comes down to how long / well you know the other people as well. If Paul picks up my guitar and starts loving around that's cool cos Paul rocks. It's as much about social dynamics as anything else I guess, but within my circle of muso pals it goes without saying, of course you can have a go, borrow my poo poo, hit my drums, whatever really 
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Dec 27, 2015 23:04
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peter gabriel posted:It sort of is, but again that'd be absolutely fine with my circle of people. True. I guess the more relevant info was that this was a new group so none of us really knew each other. I do have friends who can sit down behind my kit and play each others guitars freely. I've still never seen one guitarist adjust another one's volume/tone/etc on his own. But at the same time, I've never had a guitarist/bassist ignore the band when he's told he needs to turn down/up/whatever.
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Dec 30, 2015 17:56
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praxis posted:True. I guess the more relevant info was that this was a new group so none of us really knew each other. I do have friends who can sit down behind my kit and play each others guitars freely. I've still never seen one guitarist adjust another one's volume/tone/etc on his own. But at the same time, I've never had a guitarist/bassist ignore the band when he's told he needs to turn down/up/whatever. If it's a new dude then I'd raise an eyebrow, I'd not say anything though and it'd be OK as long as he wasn't some bumbling oaf or disrespectful to my stuff. I'd certainly be much more on my guard though yeah.
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Dec 30, 2015 20:17
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You are a band and you are making music together as a cohesive unit and you should not be bickering about "crossing the line" when turning a knob on an amp. That is normal, especially half-way through a song when someone realises the mix is sucking. As someone else said, volume levels are different for everyone during rehearsal, since they depend on where you're standing - a musician right in front of their amp won't have the best idea of the appropriate level. I shudder at the thought of being in a band where the drummer would "kick the singer's rear end" for putting up a foot on the kick drum. Unless this is something like your first or second rehearsal (in which case, this stuff is a little rude, sure) your band has issues. You say this is a new group - just how long have you guys been together? How old are you all?
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Jan 4, 2016 08:58
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I think peter gabriel has this pretty much nailed. It's more an issue of us not really knowing each other. The dude is no longer in the group, anyway. Adjusting other people's equipment was just one symptom of his uptight control issues. As for "kicking the singer's rear end" - that's Internet Tough Guy talk for "I'd give him a harsh look." I've never had that happen, it's just the closest comparison I could think of as a drummer.
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Jan 17, 2016 02:25
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comes along bort posted:you know you're in a band that's going places when you develop a pre-show/pre-rehearsal docking ritual as a bonding exercise Maybe if you idiots would show up on time! 
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Jan 17, 2016 15:02
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Showing up on time is the one thing I can never do
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edit: not an etiquette megathread, my bad
meatcookie fucked around with this message at 19:32 on Feb 22, 2016 |
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