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Germstore posted:Give back right of way to passenger trains. I was shocked that in England you can take a train to a location as fast as you could drive there. In the US it literally takes three times as long. Charlotte to Chicago takes over 30 hours by train. But if it's equally as fsst why not drive so that you have a car when you get there
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Don't want to put 1500 miles on my car and my employer will pay for a rental car. e: and I don't want to drive all day twice, but I will if it means not going through airport security.
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Our embarrassing lack of rail transport up to current standards is a separate issue pls make another thread this is the Airlines/Flying Sucks Thread thank youCartouche posted:I remember back in the 70s when people used to bathe, dress up for flights, and planes actually made an attempt at making passengers comfortable. I am too young to remember a time when airplanes were not flying Greyhound buses
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Mange Mite posted:But if it's equally as fsst why not drive so that you have a car when you get there Why not just relax on a train and get some sleep or watch something on your tablet or get some work done? Driving sucks.
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notZaar posted:Why not just relax on a train and get some sleep or watch something on your tablet or get some work done? Driving sucks. In many cases the trains are slower than driving. Twice as slow in some cases. My brother went from Boston to Cleveland via Amtrak and a trip that takes about 9.5 hours by car took 18 hours and he arrived in the middle of the night. It wasn't even a bargain since the train ticket was only $20 or $30 cheaper than a budget airline.
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I was flying from LAX in April and the security line was so long it actually went down the terminal, out the doors, and then back down the sidewalk. Nothing says security like 100s of people standing 2 inches from the curb of one of the busiest airports.
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notZaar posted:Why not just relax on a train and get some sleep or watch something on your tablet or get some work done? Driving sucks. then how do you expect to get aroudn once you get to your destination? just take a taxi everywhere?
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Train trips in the US are as expensive as flying and take forever. I've been wanting to take a train trip from Chicago to Seattle, but it's like twice as cheap and take days less to just fly there.
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Mange Mite posted:then how do you expect to get aroudn once you get to your destination? just take a taxi everywhere? Same as if you fly.
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walgreenslatino posted:Sure let me just pay $86 so I can somehow drive an hour to the TSA facility during business hours on a weekday, so that the most brutally incompetent federal agency can hold all my biometric data in perpetuity, in order to facilitate that agency doing the job they were supposed to do in the first place, and for which they are already compensated by the federal budget and ticket surcharges. You know they fingerprint you and all that when you cross the border anyway right? If you've ever traveled outside the country there's like a 99% chance they already have all your biometric data. Jenny Agutter posted:southwest is good Haha nah.
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The_Franz posted:In many cases the trains are slower than driving. Twice as slow in some cases. My brother went from Boston to Cleveland via Amtrak and a trip that takes about 9.5 hours by car took 18 hours and he arrived in the middle of the night. It wasn't even a bargain since the train ticket was only $20 or $30 cheaper than a budget airline. Yeah trains are slow, we were fantasizing about a fast rail system that would be a viable alternative to flying.
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May 24, 2016 21:41
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A big vacuum tube system like banks have.
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notZaar posted:Why not just relax on a train and get some sleep or watch something on your tablet or get some work done? Driving sucks. lol here lemme take a loving train for 10000 hours and eat lovely sandos. hold on let me get my top hat and pocket watch
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May 24, 2016 21:49
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if u think train travel on the current rail system is feasible then you have either never visited the vast expanse that is the US or youre legitimately retarded
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It would be practical if your destination was on the same coast and if passenger trains didn't have to constantly stop to give freight trains right of way. One of the factors I take into account is how likely I am to get a strangers whole hand up my rear end.
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Why travel when you can just hole up in your house and drink your own piss
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Ahundredbux posted:Why travel when you can just hole up in your house and drink your own piss Your mom wants variety
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I once took a 12 hour train ride in Australia and it was fun and enjoyable. Also this was about two months before 9/11.
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Didn't Obama have plan and a map about making 5 bullet train lines in America that would connect a lot of the major cities. What the hell happened to that?
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Airborne Viking posted:I once took a 12 hour train ride in Australia and it was fun and enjoyable. No one care Inzombiac posted:Didn't Obama have plan and a map about making 5 bullet train lines in America that would connect a lot of the major cities. No
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Solice Kirsk posted:Train trips in the US are as expensive as flying and take forever. I've been wanting to take a train trip from Chicago to Seattle, but it's like twice as cheap and take days less to just fly there. Yeah airplanes pretty much offer a better cheaper service in the US. Also tend have a worse experience compared to Euro trains.
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you're more likely to get killed in a murder mystery on a train
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etalian posted:Yeah airplanes pretty much offer a better cheaper service in the US. Yes. And euro land is tiny
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Monkey Fracas posted:I am too young to remember a time when airplanes were not flying Greyhound buses Anyone who says this has never actually been on a long-distance bus ride. Airplane people are easily leagues better than bus people. I know a guy who years ago spent a week on busses going from Chicago to northwestern Canada and back to visit his brother. When he got back he had a look about him normally reserved for people returning from war zones and he "didn't want to talk about it".
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busses can be hell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFMZkMdxKlg
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The_Franz posted:Anyone who says this has never actually been on a long-distance bus ride. Airplane people are easily leagues better than bus people. I know a guy who years ago spent a week on busses going from Chicago to northwestern Canada and back to visit his brother. When he got back he had a look about him normally reserved for people returning from war zones and he "didn't want to talk about it". Also you typically aren't on a plane long enough for things to get Weird I guess If I had to sit next to an insane person for like 20 hours that loved to talk I would kill them and then myself
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Inzombiac posted:Didn't Obama have plan and a map about making 5 bullet train lines in America that would connect a lot of the major cities. Dallas > Houston is getting a bullet train but that has been a massive fight because of dumb poo poo farmers and politicians
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Ein cooler Typ posted:busses can be hell A good post. 
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Germstore posted:Give back right of way to passenger trains. I was shocked that in England you can take a train to a location as fast as you could drive there. In the US it literally takes three times as long. Charlotte to Chicago takes over 30 hours by train. It's pretty simple to have decent public transport when the entire country is a shoebox and concentrated in a few population centers, the effectiveness of trains for quick transport plummets as size gets larger and people more spread about. Outside of short trips (<200 miles) and niche situations planes destroy trains unless your time is completely worthless. Which again is why it tends to work real well in europe where short trips are far more common. Even insane bullet trains would still suck poo poo for trips regularly made in the US like chicago-ny. Top speeds of 300+ mph sound good until you figure in stops and speed regulations-- doubt you could even average 150 and that would still put you at 5 1/4 hours compared to 2. Doesn't seem like much but that's a huge difference for business (which is the where airlines make their money). And with roundtrips for 150 bucks trains sure as gently caress ain't going to be competing on price, rail infrastructure is supppper expensive. Inzombiac posted:Didn't Obama have plan and a map about making 5 bullet train lines in America that would connect a lot of the major cities. Those are things that sound great in campaigns but there's really not much demand for most routes they were talking about. Even if something like SF LA would be nice it probably would be even better to just expand the airports since, again, price-wise it would end up being about the same for a longer trip. You'll get the people who will choose anything over flying but that's an insignificant market that no-one is going to base any decisions off of. There is definite need to create/improve light rail around major cities though.
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Do they still nake you take your shoes off to fly
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Rutibex posted:no one actually cares about stopping mass death. airport security is to prevent a plane being used to harm important people and expensive building's Make private flights have to go through TSA as well, and airport security will get fixed in a hell of a hurry, because a congressman doesn't want some stranger's hand up his rear end Inzombiac posted:Didn't Obama have plan and a map about making 5 bullet train lines in America that would connect a lot of the major cities. "Black man" "bullet" "major cities" WASPs are known for selective hearing. But to be serious, even reasonable improvements to common/middle-class transportation is a political issue, and few congressional representatives fly commercial; and when they do, they book first class on major cities until they can charter a private flight to a municipal or take a loving limo or something. They might be rich, insulated jerks, but they're not dumb enough to take commercial economy flights.
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