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Monday_ posted:Apparently people with mental illnesses are allowed to serve on juries in Brooklyn. It was so much easier to get out of this in Queens. I wonder if getting on the terror watchlist would be enough to keep you off a jury. NE1 here on the terror watch list??
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Microwaves Mom posted:Say you're educated and have a masters degree in physics or some math / science poo poo. Lawyers don't want people who are smart and not easily manipulated. my brother has a phd in chemistry and has been selected twice. He loves jury duty though. he said once they asked someone in the room what they did for a living, and when the guy said "I'm a producer for Law and Order" all the lawyers started cracking up and just shooed him out of the selection process so say you make Law and Order
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Sep 7, 2016 21:33
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I'm friends with a good number of local police. Last time I got brought in for selection I waved to the arresting officer and said "What's up, Louis!?" and surprisingly I was told I could leave
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Sep 7, 2016 21:36
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i have tourette's so i just play it up hard. i'm perfectly capable of functioning normally in society but they don't have to know that
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Sep 7, 2016 22:00
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I'd serve my country in the name of getting justice done, losing a few days of work is totally worth doing the right thing.
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Sep 7, 2016 22:04
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I actually want to be on a jury for a nonviolent drug case. I want to exercise my right to acquit against all evidence of guilt for possession cultivation or synthesis of any drug. I would give up my pay my job and my time to do this. Thing is, in texas the only way one hold out refusing to convict matters are in cases i probably would not want to do this for. How do i legally concince a jury during deliberation to aquit despite the evidence?
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Sep 7, 2016 22:43
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Booblord Zagats posted:I'm friends with a good number of local police. Last time I got brought in for selection I waved to the arresting officer and said "What's up, Louis!?" and surprisingly I was told I could leave They don't want people who are friends with police because they assume you are biased. I'm a firefighter and when they find that out I get excused, because firefighters work with police a lot, so they assume I am biased as well.
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Sep 7, 2016 22:46
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hemophilia posted:I actually want to be on a jury for a nonviolent drug case. I want to exercise my right to acquit against all evidence of guilt for possession cultivation or synthesis of any drug. I would give up my pay my job and my time to do this. Jury room orgy?
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Sep 7, 2016 22:46
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hemophilia posted:How do i legally concince a jury during deliberation to aquit despite the evidence? It's jury nullification, there's nothing illegal about it. If you're asking how to convince the other 11 people to do it then idk good luck. Odds are if you are obstinate enough they'll give in eventually just to be able to go home I guess?
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Sep 7, 2016 22:48
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Moridin920 posted:It's jury nullification, there's nothing illegal about it. If you're asking how to convince the other 11 people to do it then idk good luck. Odds are if you are obstinate enough they'll give in eventually just to be able to go home I guess? IIRC texas only needs a unanimous verdict in a capital case so the only way i would hang a jury in that case would either be to prevent the possibility of a death penalty or if i sincerely didn't believe the evidence provided. Texas i think, and other places you can be punished or excused for openly discussing nullification during deliberation
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Sep 7, 2016 22:58
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I was in the selection process for a 3-week tobacco litigation trial and it was the worst anxiety I've ever felt even though it was only like a 10% chance to get selected I'd rather spend those three weeks in jail than listening to a tobacco litigation trial
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Sep 7, 2016 23:01
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If I got selected and just refused to serve what would the legal consequences be? Surely they can't be as severe as being forced to sit is the most mind-numbingly boring environment for 100 hours
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Sep 7, 2016 23:03
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I think the actual correct thing to do is just not show up, I've never heard of anyone getting in trouble for their first time skipping at least. And here in FL, like 69% of summons are ignored and the state outright said that it doesn't have enough resources to prosecute people for it
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Sep 7, 2016 23:04
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Prolly contempt of court and the night in jail. e: for being selected then refusing to serve, not for just not showing up at all
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Sep 7, 2016 23:04
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If you commit a crime, your fate rests in the hands of 12 people that are too stupid to get out of jury duty
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Sep 7, 2016 23:05
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Moridin920 posted:Prolly contempt of court and the night in jail. Yeah I would have taken that I think as long as the mark on my record wasn't too severe and the fine was less than a couple of grand
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Sep 7, 2016 23:06
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you can always waive your right to a jury, and I've heard it might not be a bad idea depending on the circumstances of the case (judge is more likely to care about legal details and be a stickler for things like shadow of a doubt).
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Sep 7, 2016 23:06
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Being a minority works pretty well, as long as you're enough of a minority that the local prosecutors/defense attorneys don't really know what to make of you.
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Sep 7, 2016 23:52
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just claim a family member was a victim of a similar crime, and put some effort into making them believe you - this is straight out of the mouth of a criminal defense attorney
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Sep 8, 2016 00:04
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I know it sucks but you people really should do your civic duty. the fact we have a culture of dodging jury duty is exactly why emploiyers poo poo on employees who go through with it, because its like hey rear end in a top hat just argue about jury nullification or point at a brown person and scream a racial slur a few times like the rest of us. in turn the justice system slowly turns into ever more of a mockery of itself as selected juries increasingly are the sorts of people who have no business deciding the fate, guilt, or fault of anything or anyone, meaning that if you ever find yourself in a civil suit, if you ever find yourself facing criminal charges for something you didn't do, you can just thank yourself for the dumbass authoritarian retards the court wrangled into the jury box and just assume your guilt simply because the government thinks you're guilty. loving go to jury duty. Long trials pay a hell of a lot better than the $5 or whatever you get for a days service, and the civil suit you'd get for getting fired for doing it in most states should cover any financial burden doing your civic duty puts upon you. jackasses.
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Sep 8, 2016 00:41
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Yeah seriously do your goddamn jurying. On the other hand I have never been juried or heard of anyone else being jureded. I guess there aren't very many jury trials in ontario, canada? I looked it up and there are def jury summons floating around.
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Sep 8, 2016 00:58
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I got called for jury duty twice in my home state. Sitting in that little funeral parlor in the upper basement levels of the courthouse with my potential "peers" and waiting to go back to my lovely job which paid slightly better. Told the judge I'd make a lousy juror and wished to recuse myself. They told me I was not to be part of that jury, they'd find me another. So I said "I'm going to lunch" and never went back. About a year later they sent me another summons, which I trashed. No attempt made to claim my half-days pay, no reprisals from the local authorities. I mean, if it paid a little better...hemophilia posted:Long trials pay a hell of a lot better than the $5 or whatever you get for a days service.
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Sep 8, 2016 01:03
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Just got out of the loony bin!
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Sep 8, 2016 01:04
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hemophilia posted:I know it sucks but you people really should do your civic duty. the fact we have a culture of dodging jury duty is exactly why emploiyers poo poo on employees who go through with it, because its like hey rear end in a top hat just argue about jury nullification or point at a brown person and scream a racial slur a few times like the rest of us. in turn the justice system slowly turns into ever more of a mockery of itself as selected juries increasingly are the sorts of people who have no business deciding the fate, guilt, or fault of anything or anyone, meaning that if you ever find yourself in a civil suit, if you ever find yourself facing criminal charges for something you didn't do, you can just thank yourself for the dumbass authoritarian retards the court wrangled into the jury box and just assume your guilt simply because the government thinks you're guilty. I don't give a poo poo about how much it pays and I wouldn't get fired, but having to sit through 3 weeks of some rich rear end in a top hat's son suing a tobacco company (not defending them, the tobacco lawyers in that room are some of the few people who are truly evil, and should be in an institution) would have been one of the most unpleasant experiences of my life.
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Sep 8, 2016 01:08
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Yeah i just checked, the county I last got a summons for (wasn't selected for jury duty) but if I had, it was $6 for day one, and $40 for every day after. That's not good pay, but those of you who shovel poo poo in retail where you may work a 4 or 5 hour shift for near federal minimum may note that's basically a days's worth of work or more. It's not unreasonable especially if you're also being paid by your actual job
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Sep 8, 2016 01:14
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I'm at jury duty right now Someone give me an excuse
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Sep 12, 2016 14:47
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Stand up and scream BLACK LIVES MATTER
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"are you familiar with pepe?"
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