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Popelmon posted:28 Try the X-Files, 9 classic seasons and two full length motion pictures. 
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Bulky Bartokomous posted:Try the X-Files, 9 classic seasons and two full length motion pictures. My best friend did this and loved it, and was so excited when the news came out that they were going to bring it back Needless to say he wishes it hadn't returned now
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Jan 8, 2018 14:57
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I've seen x-files viewing guides that indicate which episodes contribute to the overall story and which ones are just filler. If I ever watch it I will probably use something like that.
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Jan 8, 2018 15:17
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That's the worst possible approach you could take with X-Files. The episodes with an over-arching story are absolutely terrible. All of the show's appeal is in the one-offs.
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Jan 8, 2018 15:30
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Supercar Gautier posted:All of the show's appeal is in the one-offs. This. This is the bread and butter of X-files.
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Jan 8, 2018 15:33
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Well that’s mostly true, and the way I felt about about it when I first watched it, the first 3-4 season myth-arc episodes are pretty drat good. With that said, most if not all of the series best episodes are standalone “monster of the week” episodes. I know it is praised to the point of making it the obvious pick, but the episode Clyde Bruckman’s Final Repose is a start to finish masterpiece of storytelling.
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Jan 8, 2018 18:38
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Season one is underappreciated because a couple big reviewers trashed the show early on. And since that whole industry is a giant circle jerk it led to every other reviewer parroting the same bullshit. If you took dishits from AV Club out of the equation, people would have loved season one as much as the others.
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Jan 15, 2018 22:44
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I've always been a Season 1 (is better than season 2) supporter. I feel like for most of the episodes it focused on one character and their story and intertwined it well with progressing the overall story fairly well.
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Jan 16, 2018 14:31
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I loved Season 1...except for "BJ and the AC," which is a pretty bad episode (Maybe the show's only?) Also I think a lot of people were turned off by the extended Guilty Remnant scenes. "Buhhh they aren't talking, I don't wanna have to pay attention and read their body language/facial expressions!" Oh, and pairing S1 with the (abysmal) last season of True Blood was a monumentally poor programming choice by HBO. I get that they were probably thinking "put the new supernatural drama with the old," but one was a campy soap about literal monsters while the other was a small, quiet show about despair and grief; a tonal mismatch that probably didn't reach the audience they had hoped for.
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Jan 16, 2018 17:30
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Yeah I feel like Season 1 is maybe Lindelof at his peak, and while I like seasons 2 and 3 I feel like too much of those is just him falling back on some stuff I didn't like as much from Lost.
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Jan 16, 2018 17:35
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I definitely like Leftovers s1 far, far more than I did, and would in fact argue that it is really good overall! But holy poo poo is BJ and the AC a bad episode, and I still think the Nora hooker shooting sequence is abominably stupid and bad.
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Jan 16, 2018 17:51
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Season 1 strikes me as being Lindelof attempting to channel Lost but on HBO and with a few more years of experience outside of that show under his belt. Season 2 and 3 feel far more creative and audacious to me. There are very few shows out there that have a writers room that would submit a script like "International Assassin", but this show did. I'm not trying to pick favourites or anything. I'm saying I love em all but for different reasons.
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Jan 16, 2018 18:23
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Gorn Myson posted:Season 2 and 3 feel far more creative and audacious to me. There are very few shows out there that have a writers room that would submit a script like "International Assassin", but this show did.
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Jan 16, 2018 19:28
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Raxivace posted:All they really did in International Assassin was a condensed version of Inception, one of the most popular films of the last decade. I don't really think that is super bold. lol this is such an inaccurate and reductive way to describe that episode that it's sort of funny.
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Jan 16, 2018 20:06
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Last Chance posted:lol this is such an inaccurate and reductive way to describe that episode that it's sort of funny.
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Jan 16, 2018 20:10
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wtf are you talking about god I hate “Twin Peaks is art and all other TV ever is poo poo” people
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Jan 16, 2018 21:31
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Escobarbarian posted:wtf are you talking about The only major difference between them besides running time is that International Assassin has a better ending than Inception does.
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Jan 16, 2018 21:42
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Its not filmed, edited, acted, scored or even remotely similar in terms of context to Inception beyond some superficial comparisons.
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Jan 16, 2018 21:46
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Seriously. The closest you can get is “they take place in dream worlds”. The dreams in Inception aren’t ambiguous (they’re definitely not real, they’re dreams), and the “Bond poo poo” is completely different in the movie and the episode. Not to mention the context behind International Assassin is completely different which is more likely what people are talking about when they talk about the episode being original or whatever (although you could make an argument it’s similar to Sopranos coma visions I suppose)
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Jan 16, 2018 21:53
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Eh, It's a Matt, Matt, Matt, Matt World is straight up garbage because it's just Roar (1981) on a boat  .
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Jan 16, 2018 22:01
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Just rewatched "The Most Powerful Man in the World (and His Identical Twin Brother)". Its basically a rip off of WarGames (1983)
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Jan 16, 2018 22:04
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Gorn Myson posted:Its not filmed, edited, acted, scored or even remotely similar in terms of context to Inception beyond some superficial comparisons. Escobarbarian posted:Seriously. The closest you can get is “they take place in dream worlds”. The dreams in Inception aren’t ambiguous (they’re definitely not real, they’re dreams), and the “Bond poo poo” is completely different in the movie and the episode. Not to mention the context behind International Assassin is completely different which is more likely what people are talking about when they talk about the episode being original or whatever (although you could make an argument it’s similar to Sopranos coma visions I suppose) I haven't seen this Soprano's episode so I don't know how that compares. Popelmon posted:Eh, It's a Matt, Matt, Matt, Matt World is straight up garbage because it's just Roar (1981) on a boat
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Jan 16, 2018 22:22
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I don't know episode names. Which one was BJ and the AC? And why is it worse? Also: One of the biggest strengths of season one was the GR scenes.
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Jan 17, 2018 01:38
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UmOk posted:I don't know episode names. Which one was BJ and the AC? And why is it worse? I think it’s the one where Nora is at the conference and her badge got stolen. I dunno, though, I liked it just fine. It was kind of disjointed but it felt like it was disjointed in an intentional way that matched with Nora’s headspace.
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Jan 17, 2018 01:42
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Nah that one’s really good outside of the opening. BJ and the AC is the episode where the nativity jesus gets stolen.
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Jan 17, 2018 01:44
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Ugly In The Morning posted:I think it’s the one where Nora is at the conference and her badge got stolen. I dunno, though, I liked it just fine. It was kind of disjointed but it felt like it was disjointed in an intentional way that matched with Nora’s headspace. I remember really liking that Nora conference one on my s1 rewatch. UmOk posted:Also: One of the biggest strengths of season one was the GR scenes. Totally agree. I love how it highlights the great acting
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Jan 17, 2018 01:48
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Last Chance posted:It's actually the one where Kevin rescues baby Jesus lol. I didn't mind that one either though. It's slow and weird Oh, I absolutely loved that one.
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Jan 17, 2018 02:05
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I need a boxed set of the complete series. HBO must not want my money.
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Jan 17, 2018 02:12
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I like the Baby Jesus one because of how it explores Kevin and Jill's relationship, even if the Baby Jesus part itself is a bit silly.
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Jan 17, 2018 02:29
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Season 1 is pure Lindelof. Season 2 is him trying to appease critics. And Season 3 is him realizing he did and just going even further with stuff. This isn't bad either as many reviewers have good taste. But listening to Lindelof give interviews it's clear he really cares a ton about what reviewers think about his show. Like he's obsessed with it. I'd have been interested in seeing the direction of the show if the Season 1 reviews were positive. I'd rank them 1 > 2 > 3 although I think they are all great. My issue with season 3 is they only had 8 episodes and wasted one of those on Sr's stroll through Australia. It also seemed like they had some major budget cuts to deal with.
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Jan 17, 2018 05:51
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One funny thing is they probably paid good money to have Janel Moloney play a catatonic character for two seasons and then had to cut her out for budget reasons.
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Jan 17, 2018 05:55
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Niwrad posted:One funny thing is they probably paid good money to have Janel Moloney play a catatonic character for two seasons and then had to cut her out for budget reasons. I really loved how she sort of showed up in International Assassin.
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Jan 17, 2018 15:27
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esperterra posted:Season 1 may be my favourite season, just going off of memory tbh. It had some of the best moments of the series, like when the GR replaces all the departed family members with those burial bodies. I actually wasn't super down for that because I LOVED the burial bodies when they first show up as this incredibly morbid joke about just how hosed up the grieving process is in this world, like John Edward taken about 1000 levels further. Making it plot-related was, like, "cute," but also kind of ruined the magic of the bit for me. JethroMcB posted:I loved Season 1...except for "BJ and the AC," which is a pretty bad episode (Maybe the show's only?) Also I think a lot of people were turned off by the extended Guilty Remnant scenes. "Buhhh they aren't talking, I don't wanna have to pay attention and read their body language/facial expressions!" Didn't BJ and the AC have insane production problems that were related in a Sepinwall interview? SpiderHyphenMan fucked around with this message at 18:35 on Jan 17, 2018 |
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Jan 17, 2018 18:32
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Yeah it's the one that iirc they already shot a bunch of before realising it wasn't working and so took it back in for retooling. Not that it helped imo
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Jan 17, 2018 18:37
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I think the Noara-hooker-shooting scene would have played a lot better if it had let into the Season 2 theme rather than the garbage from Season 1. Season 1 had some amazing moments of black comedy, the first of which is the scene where Jill mimes hanging herself.
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Jan 17, 2018 18:49
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I think the black comedy might be my favorite part of the entire show. And Justin Theroux is VERY good at it.
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Jan 17, 2018 18:56
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Surprising opinions. I think Season 1 was the least Lindelof and I love Lindelof. Season 2 was a perfect season of TV and International Assassin was the best episode of any show I’ve ever seen.
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Jan 19, 2018 03:21
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Bulky Bartokomous posted:Surprising opinions. I think Season 1 was the least Lindelof and I love Lindelof. Season 2 was a perfect season of TV and International Assassin was the best episode of any show I’ve ever seen. I really love International Assassin, but Ozymandias and the season 5 finale of The Shield juuuuuuuuuuust manage to beat it.
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Jan 19, 2018 03:33
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Bulky Bartokomous posted:International Assassin was the best episode of any show I’ve ever seen. This is a good and true statement
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I guess I shouldn't have unbookmarked this thread, though I'm more than happy to read more about The Leftovers since I cannot get my family to watch it! I was one of the guys in the Season 1 thread that didn't really like the show, but after a couple rewatches I've grown to love it, even the baby Jesus episode. That last scene with Kevin driving in the truck with the doll and then deciding to chuck it out on the side of the road packs a punch. Also add me to the list of people who want a complete series box set. The Season 2 media package for the show came with maps, a vial of water, and a badge for Miracle, I want something along those lines!
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