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anthonypants posted:hmm i just checked and clara jeffery is still the editor-in-chief so you're megawrong here Most of their articles are engaging and informative. I don't care who their editor in chief is.
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I can't believe this thread is still alive. op, next time please limit it to tech "journalism"
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what are the best tech journalism sites (as in actually good) these days mind you I've been a little out of the loop
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Tesseraction posted:what are the best tech journalism sites (as in actually good) lol
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Tesseraction posted:what are the best tech journalism sites (as in actually good) these days mind you
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thought as such tbh irc it is
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Jan 13, 2017 03:46
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"fake news" is a politically correct term for "propaganda"
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papa_november posted:"fake news" is a politically correct term for "propaganda" "fake news" is a lie we tell ourselves as good lefties, because it means the vicious small-minded lovely people who vote against their own interests out of spite aren't actually vicious spiteful lovely people, they are just in error. if we west wing speech them enough they will miraculously know the error of their ways and be transformed.
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ultravoices posted:"fake news" is a lie we tell ourselves as good lefties, because it means the vicious small-minded lovely people who vote against their own interests out of spite aren't actually vicious spiteful lovely people, they are just in error. if we west wing speech them enough they will miraculously know the error of their ways and be transformed. cnn hired trump's campaign manager lol.
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fart simpson posted:cnn hired trump's campaign manager lol. 90%+ of the american population couldn't give a flying gently caress what is on cnn. the only people who are watching cnn are the terminally old at home who need twitter read to them, or the terminally bored at an airport terminal.
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Jan 13, 2017 04:20
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Tesseraction posted:please consider switching to the financial times instead of the economist, their takes on regulation and policy have a longer history of being sound and, more importantly, not batshit elaborate plz
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Jan 13, 2017 04:21
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:elaborate plz the economist exists to translate neoliberal talking points to americans who are impressed by anything said in an english accent.
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ultravoices posted:90%+ of the american population couldn't give a flying gently caress what is on cnn. it's the biggest news organization in the world, op
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:elaborate plz ultravoices posted:the economist exists to translate neoliberal talking points to americans who are impressed by anything said in an english accent. Pretty much - the Atlantic republished a 1990s callout because of its persisting relevance: http://www.theatlantic.com/technolo...post-1991/7415/ The long and short is that The Economist ranges from sensible to nutbar, driven by their terrible op-ed quality control.
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Jan 14, 2017 02:47
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pro publica and frontline are the best. thanks
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buzzfeed broke the story about pissguzzler trump so theyre p great actually
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Tesseraction posted:Pretty much - the Atlantic republished a 1990s callout because of its persisting relevance: http://www.theatlantic.com/technolo...post-1991/7415/ if you listen to their podcast the americans on staff speak in transatlantic, as if they were 40s movie starlets trying to rub out the stain of their regional pronunciations. on the other hand there aren't a lot of publications that tell you what is happening in Accra for example, and the economist will (as long as the place was formerly part of the British Empire, the Economist is all over it.) on the third hand, all the contributors have framed portraits of margaret thatcher by their bedside, that they look into lovingly every night before sleep. english tories can sound very reasonable to american ears, it's how andrew sullivan got anyone to listen to him for decades.
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Democracy now and fsrn are good. Any local network affiliate for local police blotter stuff. Does anyone pay attention to local news? That open space initiative is going to fail and a new subdivision built if you dont watch out.
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ultravoices posted:if you listen to their podcast the americans on staff speak in transatlantic, as if they were 40s movie starlets trying to rub out the stain of their regional pronunciations. Yeah, hence why I love that article from the 90s pointing out that Thatcher followed The Economist's ideology to a T in the 80s and left Britain with the weakest economy in Europe.
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ultravoices posted:"fake news" is a lie we tell ourselves as good lefties, because it means the vicious small-minded lovely people who vote against their own interests out of spite aren't actually vicious spiteful lovely people, they are just in error. if we west wing speech them enough they will miraculously know the error of their ways and be transformed. fake news as a term meant actually entirely made up news posted on websites that only pretended to be some newspaper, rotating the names weekly and adjusting the made-up story according to what saw shares on social media. it is specifically social media trickery to drive some ad-clicks there really is no lie or possibility of one with that original meaning of the term, but then it also obviously doesn't apply to cnn or breitbart or any of those
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:fake news as a term meant actually entirely made up news posted on websites that only pretended to be some newspaper, rotating the names weekly and adjusting the made-up story according to what saw shares on social media. it is specifically social media trickery to drive some ad-clicks
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breitbart is very much a different thing than fake news as the term started, we are talking literally half-auto-generated "you wont believe"-clickbait mixed with "this one weird trick cures diabetes"-ad-tease levels of outrageous political claims. random guys operating out of their homes registering domain after domain with likely-sounding newspaper names and just blasting them full of random content, and then slightly more bespoke but trivially verifiably made-up news stories about the outrage when a muslim shut down an airport by taking an old lady eating a ham sandwich hostage in the control tower one has to have a really lovely set of people as facebook friends to have seen it, but it was very much a thing
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its actually completely ok for buzzfeed to release a document that had been circulating among journalists and politicians already especially since they were upfront with it being unverified
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skull mask mcgee posted:its actually completely ok for buzzfeed to release a document that had been circulating among journalists and politicians already especially since they were upfront with it being unverified Trump loves the piss.
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skull mask mcgee posted:its actually completely ok for buzzfeed to release a document that had been circulating among journalists and politicians already especially since they were upfront with it being unverified
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ripleys believe it or news
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flakeloaf posted:ripleys believe it or news
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anthonypants posted:back in my day it was called "we report, you decide" and everyone agreed that it was very stupid and definitely not journalism good source of joke tho
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:breitbart is very much a different thing than fake news as the term started, we are talking literally half-auto-generated "you wont believe"-clickbait mixed with "this one weird trick cures diabetes"-ad-tease levels of outrageous political claims. random guys operating out of their homes registering domain after domain with likely-sounding newspaper names and just blasting them full of random content, and then slightly more bespoke but trivially verifiably made-up news stories about the outrage when a muslim shut down an airport by taking an old lady eating a ham sandwich hostage in the control tower yeah a lot of the early use of the term 'fake news' was in reference to hundreds of sites spreading pro-trump rumours being run out of a single small town in Macedonia by a bunch of teenagers
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Fallen Hamprince posted:yeah a lot of the early use of the term 'fake news' was in reference to hundreds of sites spreading pro-trump rumours being run out of a single small town in Macedonia by a bunch of teenagers Now it's anything that makes Trump look like the piss-gargling babyman that he is.
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the economist has always had the most AIDS infected opinion section. -my journalism professor 9999999999 years ago, and hell, i agree
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The Economist is basically the *checks latest os memes as of 2005* Plan9 of economic journalism
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i subscribe to the LA Times and read the front page and opinion sections
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Tesseraction posted:The Economist is basically the *checks latest os memes as of 2005* Plan9 of economic journalism plan9 was made by very smart people
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