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Our Union is consecrated with the holy blood of six hundred thousand men, who died to set others free. gently caress neo-Confederates and Silicon Valley separationists alike.
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what if i wanted to make crimson skies happen in real life, OP
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Jan 18, 2017 03:39
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go and stick a hundred brass ball bearings up your steam punk rear end
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Jan 18, 2017 03:40
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counterpoint: the usa loving sucks
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Jan 18, 2017 03:40
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you're out of order, yinlock
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Jan 18, 2017 03:43
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The Divided States Of America
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Jan 18, 2017 03:48
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for this yankee nation i do not give a drat
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Jan 18, 2017 03:49
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The annexation of Hawaii was total bullshit but I have a feeling that the only other option was getting annexed by someone else.
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Jan 18, 2017 03:52
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E: ^^^ Hawaii is a strategically important mid Pacific base. It had zero chance of surviving as an independent nation. Please let San Francisco secede so we can have a civil war I believe in Everyone else sit your rear end down
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Jan 18, 2017 03:54
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Concordat posted:The annexation of Hawaii was total bullshit but I have a feeling that the only other option was getting annexed by someone else. Oh true. And Puerto Rico isn't a state so it's not secession if it's liberated
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Jan 18, 2017 04:25
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DOCTOR ZIMBARDO posted:Our Union is consecrated with the holy blood of six hundred thousand men, who died to set others free. gently caress neo-Confederates and Silicon Valley separationists alike. QFT
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Jan 18, 2017 04:29
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Not a Step posted:E: ^^^ Hawaii is a strategically important mid Pacific base. It had zero chance of surviving as an independent nation. Exactly. Kingdom of Hawaii would have lasted till the British or Japanese decided that harbor was too good to pass up. The grievances of Hawaiian secessionists are entirely legitimate, yet... Concordat has issued a correction as of 04:35 on Jan 18, 2017 |
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Jan 18, 2017 04:30
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Hawaii secedes and suddenly has been part of China for 5000 years
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Jan 18, 2017 04:42
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I'm seceding my rear end, it's a separate state now I do not submit to the sham authority of your admiralty court
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Jan 18, 2017 04:44
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Concordat posted:Exactly. Kingdom of Hawaii would have lasted till the British or Japanese decided that harbor was too good to pass up. Eh. *Modern* Hawaii could probably survive as a sovereign state with defense treaties with the US. We'd keep all of our air and naval bases there as part of the deal of course, probably with a Status of Forces Agreement saying US troops are immune to prosecution by the Hawaiian state, but I think we're slightly less flag obsessed these days. rudatron posted:I'm seceding my rear end, it's a separate state now I put gold fringe around my junk and now I'm immune to indecency laws.
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Jan 18, 2017 04:49
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The Great Lakes Federation will be here long after the remnants of the United States have succumbed to flooding, drought, famine, Mexicans, etc.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFHlK8ZXgvE
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Jan 18, 2017 04:54
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lot of dumb excuses for Hawaiian annexation itt. if it was really about its strategic location, they could have pressured the kingdom to lease land for bases. it was the white settlers, dummies
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Jan 18, 2017 04:54
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Too bad we're in the lovely president Grant timeline and not the awesome president Sherman one
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Jan 18, 2017 05:00
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DOCTOR ZIMBARDO posted:Our Union is consecrated with the holy blood of six hundred thousand men, who died to set others free. gently caress neo-Confederates and Silicon Valley separationists alike. the united states is too large and it's really dumb that middle america n keep voting to gently caress themselves and the coasts just have to deal with it and coast by on states rights
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Jan 18, 2017 05:06
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Pomp posted:the united states is too large and it's really dumb that middle america n keep voting to gently caress themselves and the coasts just have to deal with it and coast by on states rights The problem is if we stay together as a nation everyone suffers together but we maintain *some* semblance of sanity. If we split the country up some parts get ahead without the dead weight of the others but those other parts free fall into hell. So I mean if you're fine condemning the minorities of the South to an unmitigated thousand years of darkness then hell yeah lets go Coastal States of America. Maybe we could invade the South and set up a military occupation government and actually do Reconstruction right this time?
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Jan 18, 2017 05:42
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:lot of dumb excuses for Hawaiian annexation itt. if it was really about its strategic location, they could have pressured the kingdom to lease land for bases. it was the white settlers, dummies Naw son, it was pineapples and bananas brought to you by the Dole food corporation.
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my husband is a drunk, and also beats me; it's been going on a long time so we should stay together indefinitely the northern and coastal states will never dump the rest and hook up with canada but i can certainly see the appeal
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Jan 18, 2017 05:59
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The first state to secede in the future will be Florida, when it joins the Atlantic ocean.
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Jan 18, 2017 06:00
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It's Time For Civil War Quote If You Agree!!
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Nonsense posted:It's Time For Civil War Quote If You Agree!! i disagree wait gently caress gently caress
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Pomp posted:the united states is too large and it's really dumb that middle america n keep voting to gently caress themselves and the coasts just have to deal with it and coast by on states rights the solution to this is more democracy, not moving into ever-smaller, fancier, gated communities of learned fancy liberals
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Jan 18, 2017 06:20
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Yinlock posted:counterpoint: the usa loving sucks  but also the union should be dissolved entirely, not just have fuckin Georgia or whatever deuce out.
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Jan 18, 2017 06:22
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ScrubLeague posted:
 this is the only nonviolent path i can see to breaking up the obscene consolidation of corporatist power that's about to hit its endgame
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Jan 18, 2017 06:26
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OP how do you feel about Cascadia?
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Worst fans in MLS
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Jan 18, 2017 06:30
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DOCTOR ZIMBARDO posted:Our Union is consecrated with the holy blood of six hundred thousand men, who died to set others free. gently caress neo-Confederates and Silicon Valley separationists alike. Uh only like 240k union died, the rest was confed trash
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Duscat posted:
Yes. When the federal government is dissolved surely the massive continent/globe spanning corporations will finally die as well, and certainly not move into the power vacuum to bail out failed states in return for a little 'consideration'. I hear Omni Consumer Products is willing to put in a bid for the Detroit defense contract.
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Jan 18, 2017 06:32
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Oh you misunderstand. When the Union is dissolved, all of Her residents will be murdered.
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Not a Step posted:Yes. When the federal government is dissolved surely the massive continent/globe spanning corporations will finally die as well, and certainly not move into the power vacuum to bail out failed states in return for a little 'consideration'. I hear Omni Consumer Products is willing to put in a bid for the Detroit defense contract. why you gotta inject your reality into my political fantasies all the time jeeeeeez
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Jan 18, 2017 06:35
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I want RoboCop just as much as you do. Paul Verhoeven RoboCop. Not the other one.
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Not a Step posted:The problem is if we stay together as a nation everyone suffers together but we maintain *some* semblance of sanity. If we split the country up some parts get ahead without the dead weight of the others but those other parts free fall into hell. So I mean if you're fine condemning the minorities of the South to an unmitigated thousand years of darkness then hell yeah lets go Coastal States of America. Reconstruction was done right the first time, the poor got hosed and the rich got paid. Exactly as planned.
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