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all the malls i went to besides one as a teenager are still open and doing fine
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then again i live in the mall and diner capital of the world
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Mar 23, 2017 19:48
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etalian posted:Stuff like Amazon prime pretty much destroyed the concept This isn't all true. The mall supported sectors of apparel, home goods (candles and scents in particular), and other verticals that haven't really recovered to the same extent online. Even today, most people don't buy most of their clothes online. Turns out some things you really do need to see/smell/touch in person.
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Mar 23, 2017 19:58
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Nebakenezzer posted:This is pretty much my point too It's cute when people think that when malls die, their ashes fertilize the ground and Small Business and Economic Revitalization grows in its place, instead of an aging partially-collapsed building continuing to mark the city as an economic nothing years after closing
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Mar 23, 2017 20:07
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gobbagool posted:edgy, not what I wrote though. To my actual point, i think you'll find it's not conservatives moving back into the city and forcing poor people out So in your mind malls are not going out of business because they are no longer financially viable, it's because "liberals" Tell me about the time a pack of Prius drivers trashed a Foot Locker in an insidious scheme to speculate on real estate If you want to be a conservative about it you should be cheering "creative destruction" and poo poo call to action posted:It's cute when people think that when malls die, their ashes fertilize the ground and Small Business and Economic Revitalization grows in its place, instead of an aging partially-collapsed building continuing to mark the city as an economic nothing years after closing So I *can* sign you up for "Mall Aid" Like seriously what do you want to do about this
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Mar 23, 2017 21:07
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Nebakenezzer posted:So I *can* sign you up for "Mall Aid" socialism, duh
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Mar 23, 2017 21:10
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ScrubLeague posted:Also I don't know about you but I rarely want to be in a large building with a bunch of people I don't know with exits I can't immediately reach. ya good point, a lot of shootings happen in malls, even internationally imo dont save the malls
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Mar 23, 2017 21:25
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Nebakenezzer posted:So in your mind malls are not going out of business because they are no longer financially viable, it's because "liberals" Oh, no, i didn't mean to leave that impression at all. Malls are going out of business because of Amazon.com and to a lesser degree walmart brick and mortar stores. I am a hypocrite in that I don't want malls to go out of business, but I do the vast majority of my non-grocery shopping via amazon edit: "do about this"? gently caress if i know, i guess surrender to the inevitable ascendance of Amazon. gobbagool has issued a correction as of 21:32 on Mar 23, 2017 |
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Mar 23, 2017 21:28
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Nebakenezzer posted:So I *can* sign you up for "Mall Aid" Pener Kropoopkin posted:socialism, duh But seriously I don't think there is anything to do about this, except repurpose malls as community centers, churches, and call centers where possible. Malls suck and they destroyed Main Street, but I'm always going to have a soft spot for grabbing a pretzel at the mall and buying a new shirt at Structure vs. enriching Jeff Bezos
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Mar 23, 2017 21:29
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call to action posted:But seriously I don't think there is anything to do about this, except repurpose malls as community centers, churches, and call centers where possible. Malls suck and they destroyed Main Street, but I'm always going to have a soft spot for grabbing a pretzel at the mall and buying a new shirt at Structure vs. enriching Jeff Bezos There's no good reason not to turn them into public housing/spaces.
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Mar 23, 2017 21:30
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Fiction posted:There's no good reason not to turn them into public housing/spaces. Well besides the "who's going to pay for it, the broke rear end city or the broke rear end state it resides in" question, I agree
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Mar 23, 2017 21:32
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flood the malls and fill them with aquaculture or just flood them idgaf malls are poo poo
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Mar 23, 2017 21:43
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sell all malls to private prison companies to house more inmates from the revitalized war on drugs
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Mar 23, 2017 21:44
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Fullhouse posted:flood the malls and fill them with aquaculture exactly raze malls, let the wildlife flourish find your laborforce somewhere else instead of trying to inject medicine into an already bloated corpse imo
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Mar 23, 2017 21:44
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all the space in those malls would be more than enough for classrooms if you really think about it. Just have to install some soundproofed walls in the empty department stores and you're set.
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Mar 23, 2017 21:49
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:all the space in those malls would be more than enough for classrooms if you really think about it. Just have to install some soundproofed walls in the empty department stores and you're set. why not some malls be refurbished into community centers, some for schools, some for zoos etc raze the rest
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Mar 23, 2017 21:49
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gobbagool posted:Oh, no, i didn't mean to leave that impression at all. Malls are going out of business because of Amazon.com and to a lesser degree walmart brick and mortar stores. I am a hypocrite in that I don't want malls to go out of business, but I do the vast majority of my non-grocery shopping via amazon Fair enough then. I just felt for a second I had a conservative on the one hand and a liberal on the other calling for mall subsidies or somesuch, and it hurt my brain in a way that I now describe as 'very 2017' call to action posted:But seriously I don't think there is anything to do about this, except repurpose malls as community centers, churches, and call centers where possible. Malls suck and they destroyed Main Street, but I'm always going to have a soft spot for grabbing a pretzel at the mall and buying a new shirt at Structure vs. enriching Jeff Bezos Also fair enough - I can't slag anyone off for being sentimental or nostalgic, god knows Somebody posted that good blog post from that urban development guy a page or two back, and he thought the malls death spiral was in addition to everything else because the con of mall development didn't make financial sense anymore - kinda like a short term trade from more tax revenue with the long term costs being lovely low wage jobs. Kinda like Casinos or something Assuming dude's right - it could mean a change on the municipal level as to how these sorts of projects are viewed, though that sorta change only really sticks via poo poo-tons of pain sadly
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Mar 24, 2017 00:10
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tadashi posted:My main issues with these is they just add to gentrification "Building a thing" is not gentrification, it depends on where it's built
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Mar 24, 2017 00:40
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how will i go buy a cat in the hat hat and a pair of sunglasses with alien shaped lenses if spencer's gifts goes away?
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Mar 24, 2017 00:41
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jarofpiss posted:how will i go buy a cat in the hat hat and a pair of sunglasses with alien shaped lenses if spencer's gifts goes away? more importantly, how will you buy dildos without having to go to a sex shop if spencer's goes away?
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Mar 24, 2017 01:35
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anime was right posted:then again i live in the mall and diner capital of the world Sounds like Paramus. Yeah, there's some insane wealth in that area and then you also have people coming from New York for those sweet sweet tax free clothes. It's like a weird retail bubble that will long survive the apocalypse.
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Mar 24, 2017 03:13
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Earth Table posted:Sounds like Paramus. also most stores in bergen county are closed on sundays due to blue laws bergen county is highly diverse guess they just want a traffic break
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Mar 24, 2017 03:24
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Earth Table posted:Sounds like Paramus. lil south but yup
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Mar 24, 2017 03:41
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Thomas Friedman and his wife are invested heavily in shopping malls. Anyone defending malls in this thread will be suspected of being the mustache himself.
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Mar 24, 2017 03:59
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I had a very interesting conversation about malls with my Sikh cab driver yesterday...
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Mar 24, 2017 04:46
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:I had a very interesting conversation about malls with my Sikh cab driver yesterday... Did he have to take a second job to pay off his GAP Rewards Charge Card?
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Mar 24, 2017 04:54
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:I had a very interesting conversation about malls with my Sikh cab driver yesterday...
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Mar 24, 2017 05:03
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Rand alPaul posted:Thomas Friedman and his wife are invested heavily in shopping malls. Well now we know they are doomed.
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Mar 24, 2017 05:58
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I'm still amazed Gurnee Mills is still standing you would think that it is circular, but no, it is like two or three miles of walking from point A to point Z when it goes under, who the hell knows how they're going to cut up that zig-zagging mess of a complex (also there is a free-standing Sbarro's within walking distance of the Sears Tower  )
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Mar 24, 2017 06:06
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i love going to physical stores and finding that they dont have what i need
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Mar 24, 2017 10:55
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Destroy them all(s)
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Mar 24, 2017 11:17
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i'm just waiting for rents to get cheap enough for me to open a stand and sell pogs again
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jarofpiss posted:how will i go buy a cat in the hat hat and a pair of sunglasses with alien shaped lenses if spencer's gifts goes away? didn't spencer's go out of business like ten years ago? oh wait i'm thinking of gadzooks
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