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Peel posted:he was charged with misdemeanor assault iirc, don't know if it would have been a felony for a non-millionaire Not to mention the story leading today isn't 'Republicans beat Democrats' but 'Republican who assaulted the press wins but kinda shows that the GOP is going full fascist.' Not only was it a win that was smaller than it should have been, but Gianforte now looks like the typical rich boy who--like Trump--gets a free pass for his childish antics because he's rich. So if this is a win for the Republicans, I'd hate to see a loss. The only thing they've really done is win a seat they should have won much more easily and now have to contend with yet another embarrassment from a giant rich manbaby. Good luck with that.
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Felony assault in MT is of the "aggravated" type where severe injury/fear of life comes into play. Knocking the guy down and punching (while quite bad!) probably wouldn't pass as that variety unless it was an extended beatdown session. Now, if the attacker was a POC....welp.
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Lol what is even the point of Montana
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Zelder posted:Lol what is even the point of Montana It keeps other states from having to touch Alberta.
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Captain_Maclaine posted:It keeps other states from having to touch Alberta. Pretty much this, yes. Zelder posted:Lol what is even the point of Montana I'm starting to wonder if a good way to cut down on government bloat would be to have the western states have to justify their statehood by population. To become a state you have to have a certain amount of people in it, and yet we don't really do anything with that after statehood is granted. By all rights we could just reduce these places to territories and then start linking all of this dead land into one enormous state with governors and the like taking a bigger role as some sort of intermediary. By all rights the idea of every state having two senators is a good idea, but we really should cut down on so much of central/western America having a louder voice than the population centers. We could probably save a few bucks by making Montana, the Dakotas, Idaho, Nebraska, Iowa, and Wyoming into one single state. There's no reason to have 14 senators for these places since most of them barely qualify for as many representatives as most other states. Edit: throw in Alaska as well.
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Montana is a bug out state where you can live with minimal human contact.
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Montana isn't great but it's probably better than every single state it borders
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Montana is actually good, and it says something about Montana that a state with the demographics of Wyoming has democrats and leftists have a competitive shot at statewide office.
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Zelder posted:Lol what is even the point of Montana penal colony full of oil workers
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Montasque posted:https://twitter.com/KyungLahCNN/status/867770692313460736 lol if you guessed that Gianforte beating up a lying dishonest liberal media journalist would get him more votes in Trumpland.
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Zelder posted:Lol what is even the point of Montana 
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Zelder posted:Lol what is even the point of Montana Being the third world hellhole that serves as the setting for the next Far Cry game.
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Mad Doctor Cthulhu posted:Pretty much this, yes. Just get rid of the senate bing bong simple
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logikv9 posted:seeing how the failed neoliberal extreme centrist ossoff and the ultra progressive quist both lost, it's time for the democraps to find a new ideology An honestly good post
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Lolling how Montana rednecks would rather have someone from one of the worst coastal states represent them instead of singing cowboy.
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Donkwich posted:Just get rid of the senate bing bong simple If we get rid of the house that's even less people we have to pay
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etalian posted:Lolling how Montana rednecks would rather have someone from one of the worst coastal states represent them instead of singing cowboy. In the future, I hope the Montana Democratic Party considers not nominating people who have advocated for a federal gun registry. (aka the "Big Government Computer")
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Poor Rob Quist, such a lovely candidate he couldn't even win against a literal criminal. Why do dems pick such terrible people to run? The exact same thing is going to happen in June in GA.
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quist was a good candidate, but even if he got more help from the DCCC he probably wouldn't have won (though they should have given more money anyway). recent state-level elections have gone better- two trump districts (one in NY, one in NH) both went to Democrats. can't vouch for the NH candidate but the NY candidate was a public school teacher, union activist, and Bernie delegate edit: let's not act like this is the only time someone has won in congress after intimidating someone in the media. remember this guy? get that OUT of my face has issued a correction as of 03:52 on May 28, 2017 |
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rob quist did really well and i hope he runs again. i think the berniecrats will just grow more popular as time goes on
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get that OUT of my face posted:quist was a good candidate, but even if he got more help from the DCCC he probably wouldn't have won (though they should have given more money anyway). recent state-level elections have gone better- two trump districts (one in NY, one in NH) both went to Democrats. can't vouch for the NH candidate but the NY candidate was a public school teacher, union activist, and Bernie delegate quist has an absurd amount of baggage and wasn't properly vetted. all 3 of the frontrunners for the dem nomination were bernie supporters (mccarthy, quist, and curtis). curtis would have been a disaster but mccarthy was far more viable and wouldn't have had ads run against him for stiffing contractors or dodging his taxes
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Condiv posted:rob quist did really well and i hope he runs again. i think the berniecrats will just grow more popular as time goes on He did very poorly considering the amount of money poured into the race.
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funny way to spell posted:He did very poorly considering the amount of money poured into the race. wasn't he outspent by a lot? like 4:1 or 3:1? I know someone posted a graph either here or somewhere else showing the amounts and the red column was way bigger than the blue one 
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Barbe Rouge posted:wasn't he outspent by a lot? like 4:1 or 3:1? I know someone posted a graph either here or somewhere else showing the amounts and the red column was way bigger than the blue one he was outspent in outside funding, although the actual ad differential was a lot closer since he was given $6m in campaign funds. campaigns get preferential tv ad rates, which means quist got a lot more bang for his buck. he did get outspent, but that wasn't the reason why he lost. he lost because he said a lot of (politically) dumb things in the past, had a lot of financial baggage that went beyond his medical debt, and also ended up not being a great politician or speaker. you don't usually win in montana by suggesting things like "we should have a federal gun registry." Concerned Citizen has issued a correction as of 21:00 on May 28, 2017 |
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lol that a coastal billionaire got chosen over a montanan country singer
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Concerned Citizen posted:he was outspent in outside funding, although the actual ad differential was a lot closer since he was given $6m in campaign funds. campaigns get preferential tv ad rates, which means quist got a lot more bang for his buck. or he lost because the baseline result in a montana statewide race is "republican wins bigly" (triply so outside of presidential election years) and voter sentiment in the state hasnt turned against trump/the GOP as it has in some other states (i agree that any evidence of any sort of anti-gun stance is v. bad in montana tho)
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Vox Nihili posted:or he lost because the baseline result in a montana statewide race is "republican wins bigly" (triply so outside of presidential election years) and voter sentiment in the state hasnt turned against trump/the GOP as it has in some other states this was a winnable race. gianforte's numbers were not good, and he had just lost with more favorable electoral climate 6 months ago. the issue is that quist became as unpopular as gianforte, plus the convention left some bitterness from a lot of amanda curtis supporters.
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Concerned Citizen posted:quist has an absurd amount of baggage and wasn't properly vetted. all 3 of the frontrunners for the dem nomination were bernie supporters (mccarthy, quist, and curtis). curtis would have been a disaster but mccarthy was far more viable and wouldn't have had ads run against him for stiffing contractors or dodging his taxes
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Concerned Citizen posted:this was a winnable race. gianforte's numbers were not good, and he had just lost with more favorable electoral climate 6 months ago. the issue is that quist became as unpopular as gianforte, plus the convention left some bitterness from a lot of amanda curtis supporters. gianforte lost his previous race to a popular incumbent governor during the presidential election, when dems do best. im not sure how you can cast that as a "more favorable electoral climate" for the GOP candidate. this is montana, there isnt a big anti-trump backlash to ride also, gianforte had decent numbers for most of the race, something like +10 favorability. he was never "unpopular" except maybe when he attacked a journalist after most of the votes had already been cast
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Vox Nihili posted:gianforte lost his previous race to a popular incumbent governor during the presidential election, when dems do best. im not sure how you can cast that as a "more favorable electoral climate" for the GOP candidate. this is montana, there isnt a big anti-trump backlash to ride well first, your premise that "dems do best in a presidential election" is flawed in regards to montana. this is a state with a massive number of swing voters that can and do switch between parties at the drop of a hat. the gop actually has more drop-off voters than the democrats in mt, so there's not much advantage for democrats in a presidential election year. in this case, the presidential year worked against democrats since hillary brought the ticket down so hard - democrats controlled every statewide office but ag in 2012, and lost all but governor in 2016. gianforte's favorables were poo poo when he announced and improved as he started barraging tv with unanswered ads even before he became candidate. but he was a fundamentally flawed candidate who lost to someone that was popular, yes, but not that popular. certainly not enough to pull out more than a 4 point win. an example of a really popular candidate might be, say, gov. schweitzer who won his re-election by 33 points.
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Jose posted:lol that a coastal billionaire got chosen over a montanan country singer that's increasingly going to be the case as carpetbaggers continue invading cheaper rural areas
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new jersey carpetbaggers are 2 for 2 in prominent western state elections, the other one being the guy who beat Joe Arpaio (himself from Queens, NY) for maricopa sheriff also NY/NJ people have ruined north carolina
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get that OUT of my face posted:new jersey carpetbaggers are 2 for 2 in prominent western state elections, the other one being the guy who beat Joe Arpaio (himself from Queens, NY) for maricopa sheriff Cary= Center Area of Recently Relocated Yankees
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etalian posted:Cary= Center Area of Recently Relocated Yankees containment area for relocated yankees thank you very much however the tank lining eroded and they've spilled out into the surrounding areas
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etalian posted:Cary= Center Area of Recently Relocated Yankees get that OUT of my face has issued a correction as of 05:53 on May 30, 2017 |
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get that OUT of my face posted:virginia foxx was born in the Bronx and she's the wicked witch of the west(ern North Carolina) the current state senate leader is from new jersey and the previous house majority leader are from new jersey, the previous republican governor is from ohio. the legislator responsible for all the gerrymandered district maps that keep getting overturned by federal courts is from massachusetts in 2011 a tea-party backed group all from new york, new jersey, and massachusetts took control of the largest school district on an openly segregationist ticket a few months ago legislators from pennsylvania and illinois proposed an amendment to the state constitution reasserting the right to secede again it goes on and on. carpetbaggers are bad news
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VitalSigns posted:The locals are still dumb enough to vote for them tho
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