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Dark tower seems like an inherently doomed property. Like say you recreate the first 3 scene for scene and everyone loves them. What do you do next? actually film the weird harry potter and doctor doom stuff that made up the second half of the story?
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Feb 26, 2018 14:22
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They didn't even have lobstrosities. WTF is this tentacle bullshit?
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Feb 26, 2018 15:26
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Dark tower seems like an inherently doomed property. Like say you recreate the first 3 scene for scene and everyone loves them. What do you do next? actually film the weird harry potter and doctor doom stuff that made up the second half of the story? The problem is that the movie completely wastes the chance to refine and adjust the material by having it be set in the Horn Of Eld cycle. Ideally, given the nature of the new cycle, a competent filmmaker would expand on the source materials strength, and reduce the weaker aspects. That would especially be useful towards the back half of the series where it gets extremely meta. You could totally do Wolves Of The Calla, but adjust the designs of the Wolves so they act as more homage than direct adaption. Or hell, make them something new altogether. The new cycle was basically offered full approval to do whatever, but they somehow managed to use that opportunity to make the most boring, pedestrian end product possible.
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Feb 26, 2018 15:34
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It really just does seem like the thing everyone would want is the first few books faithfully adapted very close to the books and then the second half just basically totally rewritten. Like I think I like the later books more than some people but they are meh stories that would make the worst movies imaginable. It feels like a project that was a movie series that had two phases like that would be really hard to sell. Like pitching "I got this movie series, the first half is all really good but most people hate the second half! "
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Feb 26, 2018 15:48
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I actually quite like the later books as well, but I don’t think it’s too out there to say that adapting them would be a logistical nightmare, not only in terms of gaining rights to other properties, but in terms of how the narrative gets a little loosey goosey towards the end. I still think there’s good stuff in those installments, especially in terms of examining the purpose of storytelling, but you’d definitely have to do some writing yoga to make it coherent enough for a filmed medium. Off the top of my head one of the major changes I would make would be to introduce Mordred to the story significantly earlier. His arc might work fine on the page where you have the benefits of an internal monologue, but without that you’d need a lot more time to establish what the character is and what his purpose is.
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Feb 26, 2018 15:55
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The early ones were good, but everything started sliding downhill after Wizard & Glass, eventually culminating in some of the most drawn out and terrible death scenes in modern literature. The Dark Tower series is everything that's good about Stephen King and everything that's really really bad as well. The fact they couldn't get the first book done right (and yes I know it's actually the 8th book so to speak) doesn't bode well since it was the most straight forward of the lot.
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Feb 26, 2018 16:07
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I honestly feel like a good writer could mash wolves into a reasonable movie and "the dark tower" could get stripped down to an outline and rewritten better but that it still leaves "song" hanging out. I can not imagine any possible way that even one second of song could get filmed that made anything resembling a movie anyone would watch. wolves and tower have a lot of work to make them good but at least have some seeds where you can see what they could work from to fix things, song just seems like there is not one single story beat that could even remotely make it into a film. Like you can cut out the lightsabers in wolves and say "well the loop part is cool and there is an IT spider" in dark tower but there is no conceivable thing you could do to song that makes any of it filmable.
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Feb 26, 2018 16:36
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Amazon's programming director has been open about the fact that their focus is now chasing that Game of Thrones dragon which is why I'm skeptical that any Dark tower adaptation of the theirs would deliver on the promise of the first few books instead of leaning super hard on being epic fantasy with guns.
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Feb 26, 2018 18:38
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:I honestly feel like a good writer could mash wolves into a reasonable movie and "the dark tower" could get stripped down to an outline and rewritten better but that it still leaves "song" hanging out. Counterpoint: the grocery store shootout was pretty cool.
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Feb 26, 2018 18:42
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Dark tower seems like an inherently doomed property. Like say you recreate the first 3 scene for scene and everyone loves them. What do you do next? actually film the weird harry potter and doctor doom stuff that made up the second half of the story? Reminder that Ready Player One is being made into a movie without a hint of irony.
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Feb 26, 2018 18:53
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:I honestly feel like a good writer could mash wolves into a reasonable movie and "the dark tower" could get stripped down to an outline and rewritten better but that it still leaves "song" hanging out. Song’s a brick wall, I’ll give you that. It’s easily the weakest book in the series, worsened by the fact that so little of substance actually happens in it until the very end. That’s a major point where whoever is helming an adaption would have to get a little creative.
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Feb 26, 2018 19:18
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Well, I finally watched it and it was as not good as I had heard.
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Mar 4, 2018 23:16
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Mister Kingdom posted:Well, I finally watched it and it was as not good as I had heard. Just curious, did you hear anything other than "one of the worst movies I have ever seen?" I don't think I've seen anyone say one single positive thing about this movie.
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Mar 28, 2018 14:03
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RCarr posted:Just curious, did you hear anything other than "one of the worst movies I have ever seen?" I don't think I've seen anyone say one single positive thing about this movie. Idris Elba and Matthew McConaughey were very good in their respective parts, and I would love to see more of them in better movies.
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Mar 28, 2018 14:39
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I have a friend who works as a CO in a federal prison. She said they loved this at movie night.  I guess when you're starving a saltine is a feast.
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Mar 28, 2018 15:01
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I did like what they came up with for the way Roland takes out Walter though, how he deflects a bullet with another bullet. It was a great way to show Walter's powers are limited and that he overestimates his invulnerability. When it comes down to it he's just a magician with some dramatic tricks.
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Mar 28, 2018 15:16
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Basebf555 posted:I did like what they came up with for the way Roland takes out Walter though, how he deflects a bullet with another bullet. It was a great way to show Walter's powers are limited and that he overestimates his invulnerability. When it comes down to it he's just a magician with some dramatic tricks. It’s also a hell of a way to show how inhumanly skilled Roland is.
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Mar 28, 2018 15:27
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Phylodox posted:Idris Elba and Matthew McConaughey were very good in their respective parts, and I would love to see more of them in better movies. We saw different movies.
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