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We've just passed RAW number 1,252-which means that we are within 5 years of RAW 1500. Which leads to a very important question: What will the product look like Our champions (stolen without permission from the Jinder Discussion Thread)  Some points for discussion and predictions:
For reference: Men under the age of 30 who have held any main roster title: Bray Wyatt, Rich Swann, Jason Jordan kill me if I'm here on 2/22/22 to check for accuracy
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May 24, 2017 03:26
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May 24, 2017 03:27
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May 24, 2017 03:36
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Then. Now. Especially now. Forever.
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May 24, 2017 03:46
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people will still be unhappy with the tv show but now several beloved older folks from wwe wrestling will have died by then as well. one example could be jim ross, but might not be
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May 24, 2017 04:52
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It's gonna be super great
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May 24, 2017 04:59
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I'll play your game. Who will hold the NXT, Smackdown, and RAW main titles as of 2/21/2022? -NXT Kazuchika Okada, Main Triple H Who will have recently won the 2022 Royal Rumble? -Charlotte Will the brand split still be in effect? -No Will NXT still be a touring-level brand? -Yes, but it'll still be viewed/presented as a minor league/developmental offering. Will the WWE Network still exist? -Yes kinda, see next question. Will Smackdown and RAW still be available via traditional cable deals? -Yes via ESPN when they buy the media rights after they expire in 2019. WWE Network becomes a big cornerstone for ESPN's stand-alone streaming option, though ESPN will still have a presence on cable/sat TV. The latter won't be dead in 2022 yet, though the signs are there. Which current tag teams will still be active and primarily competing as tag wrestlers? -None of them. Who will be the Authority Figures on each show? -Steph/Triple H Will Sami Zayn have held the WWE Championship or the WWE Universal Championship? -No Will Roman Reigns have been turned heel? -Not really, he continuously exists in tweener zone similar to Super Cena, though with some more overly heel tendencies. The trigger is never fully pulled into straight heeldom, though. Does CM Punk appear on WWE TV in the interim? -No, though talk about putting him into the HOF has people wondering if the bridge might be rebuilt one day. This is dependent on Vince still being alive/active, as he'll have to be the catalyst for a reunion, not Triple H. Will the WWE face a competitor capable of topping TNA's highwater mark of a 1.45 rating? -No, in fact WWE would love to pull that on TV themselves. With the show being available live on the ESPN app the audience is split, with most viewing on the app vs. tv.
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May 24, 2017 05:41
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Raw 1500 will end up being telecasted from a smokey Bingo hall thus proving Vince's made up history of wrestling correct in the end
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May 24, 2017 05:43
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In the wake of Vince McMahon's death the WWE will collapse under lawsuits; Stephanie and Triple H will reincorporate all assets under the NXT brand. Its champion will be Sheamus.
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May 24, 2017 06:30
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 Looking at WM 5 years ago and trying to predict WM 5 years from now seems impossible
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May 24, 2017 07:13
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RealFoxy posted:
But drat, the predictions would have been fantastic.
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May 24, 2017 07:17
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Paracaidas posted:But drat, the predictions would have been fantastic. Just five years ago like half that card is retired, semi-retired, or have left the WWE and that wasn't even too long ago.
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May 24, 2017 07:19
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With regards to CM Punk returning in the next five years. In an era where we have had Bret Hart, Ultimate Warrior and Kurt Angle return within seven years anything is possible in my books. Will it happen in the next five years? Maybe, but one day it'll happen.
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May 24, 2017 07:24
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I mean never say never and money can change all minds, but I think Punk is probably the least likely of guys to go back as he's frugal with his money and also the main beef was with HHH. I'm not sure HHH would be willing to make peace with Punk even if it could draw money
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May 24, 2017 07:32
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Justin Godscock posted:With regards to CM Punk returning in the next five years. In an era where we have had Bret Hart, Ultimate Warrior and Kurt Angle return within seven years anything is possible in my books. Will it happen in the next five years? Maybe, but one day it'll happen. The biggest hangup when he first left IIRC was that part timers would come in and take away WM main events like Rock or Brock Lesner, maybe it's possible that he's playing the long con here to increase his net worth for a WM payday. If he were he's the best keeper of Kayfabe in history because he's even cut ties with Colt Cabana who gave him that huge platform to vent about the WWE when he left and I don't think he talks to any other wrestlers except Batista on occasion who isn't an active wrestler anyway.
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May 24, 2017 07:32
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It's kinda funny how nothing ever really seems to change in WWE but if you jump back in 5 year jumps you're reminded me of just how much is different now. I mean hell, looking back at Raw 1000 which was 5 years back, there have been so many rosters changes and storylines that have completely disappeared from memory. That said, I kinda hope that John Cena isn't around in anything more than an occasional special guest appearance ala the Rock. Every so often I think about that guy who (years ago!) once called John Cena the WWE's version of Boxer from Animal Farm 
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May 24, 2017 09:34
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RealFoxy posted:
Just for fun, let's run down this card today Retired Rosa Mendes Tyson Kidd Daniel Bryan (still on TV as GM) AJ Lee Beth Phoenix Eve Torres Kelly Kelly Maria Menonous (random one-off gig) The Undertaker Santino Marella John Laurinaitis Vickie Guerrero Brie Bella Teddy Long Aksana David Otunga (still on TV as announcer) The Great Khali Booker T (still on TV as announcer) CM Punk The Rock (maybe, assuming his Hollywood bosses don't want him wrestling again) Semi-retired and/or on the way out Kane Big Show Mark Henry Part-time wrestlers Triple H Chris Jericho John Cena Nikki Bella Gone from WWE but still wrestling Justin Gabriel Cody Rhodes Jack Swagger Hornswoggle Still active, full-time WWE wrestlers Primo & Epico The Usos Sheamus Randy Orton Dolph Ziggler The Miz Drew McIntyre (only recently came back after an indie run) Kofi Kingston R-Truth Zack Ryder That's a pretty crazy amount of turnover in just five years. Benne fucked around with this message at 21:13 on May 24, 2017 |
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May 24, 2017 21:03
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Who will hold the NXT, Smackdown, and RAW main titles as of 2/21/2022? NXT: Some Guy Who Isn't Even Wrestling Yet Raw: Roman Reigns SD: Aj Styles Who will have recently won the 2022 Royal Rumble? One of them Chinese guys they're developing to get that sweet sweet Yuan Will the brand split still be in effect? Yes. Will NXT still be a touring-level brand? No. Will the WWE Network still exist? Yes. Lots of other companies/leagues will try a streaming thing and fail and the whole idea of 1 company running its own stream will seem dumb but the Netwwerk will persist. Will Smackdown and RAW still be available via traditional cable deals? Traditional cable will be dead by 2022 so no. Which current tag teams will still be active and primarily competing as tag wrestlers? None because WWE doesn't like long-running tag teams. Who will be the Authority Figures on each show? Aurora Levesque and Kurt Angle Will Sami Zayn have held the WWE Championship or the WWE Universal Championship? hahaha no Will Roman Reigns have been turned heel? No. Heel and Face dynamics are for jobbers in 2022 Does CM Punk appear on WWE TV in the interim? No. Will the WWE face a competitor capable of topping TNA's highwater mark of a 1.45 rating? Hell no.
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May 24, 2017 21:12
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RealFoxy posted:
I was curious and broke this down. 43 people performed at Wrestlemania 5 years ago in some fashion. Out of those 43, 23 are on active contract currently (53%), even if their roles have changed. 19 of those performed at this year's show (44%), with 16 wrestling (37%). So nearly 2/3rds of the people who were on that show 5 years ago weren't part of this year's. If I wanted to eliminated the part-timers, we're at 12 (28%). 28% seems like a good baseline to work off of. I decided to compare it to the champs in the 4 major US sports from 5 years ago. For the NFL it's if they played in 2016, NBA/NHL/MLB is if they've played in 2017: Baltimore Ravens - 60 on roster, 31 still in league (52%), 11 still on roster (18%). Nearly half of the Super Bowl team from 5 years ago is out of the NFL, with the Ravens having turned over more than 4/5ths of that roster. Boston Red Sox - 48 on roster, 21 still in league (44%), 6 still on roster (13%). Half of the World Series champs are out of baseball or haven't appeared in a game this season, with only a handful still in Boston. Miami Heat - 18 on roster, 9 still in league (50%), 2 still on roster (11%). This was a unique situation because Miami was the LeBron/Bosh/Wade Superteam and now only one of them are on the team (Bosh still counts because he was under contract even though for all intents and purposes his career is over). Still, that's a significant amount of overhaul. Chicago Blackhawks - 32 on roster, 21 still in league (66%), 10 still on roster (31%). Considering how physical a game stickpuck is and how often guys play hurt, I'm amazed that 2/3rds of the Stanley Cup champ roster still played last season. Compared to the major sports leagues WWE comes off as having more turnover, which makes sense given the travel and wear and tear and lack of an offseason. Realistically, it makes sense that 2/3rds to 3/4ths of the roster from this year's Wrestlemania won't make it to the one in 2022.
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May 24, 2017 21:51
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Also
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May 25, 2017 01:25
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I refuse to take part in this due to the fact that you stole the champions image
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May 25, 2017 01:27
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Who will hold the NXT, Smackdown, and RAW main titles as of 2/21/2022? -NXT: Jay White; Smackdown: Tye Dillinger; Raw: Drew McIntyre Who will have recently won the 2022 Royal Rumble? -John Cena Will the brand split still be in effect? -Yes Will NXT still be a touring-level brand? -Hope not Will the WWE Network still exist? -Yes Will Smackdown and RAW still be available via traditional cable deals? -Somehow, yes Which current tag teams will still be active and primarily competing as tag wrestlers? -Breezango, Heavy Machinery, The Authors of Pain, The Revival Who will be the Authority Figures on each show? -Booker T and Matt Hardy Will Sami Zayn have held the WWE Championship or the WWE Universal Championship? -yes, but briefly Will Roman Reigns have been turned heel? -lmao no Does CM Punk appear on WWE TV in the interim? -nope Will the WWE face a competitor capable of topping TNA's highwater mark of a 1.45 rating? -NJPW USA
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May 25, 2017 09:32
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Paracaidas posted:[*]Which current tag teams will still be active and primarily competing as tag wrestlers?: DIY ayyyy
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May 25, 2017 09:53
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Triple H will hold the world title in 2022.
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May 25, 2017 10:09
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Roman Reigns will be the #1 ace because WWE is, if nothing else, stubborn to a fault.
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May 25, 2017 10:44
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C. Everett Koop posted:I was curious and broke this down. 43 people performed at Wrestlemania 5 years ago in some fashion. Out of those 43, 23 are on active contract currently (53%), even if their roles have changed. 19 of those performed at this year's show (44%), with 16 wrestling (37%). So nearly 2/3rds of the people who were on that show 5 years ago weren't part of this year's. If I wanted to eliminated the part-timers, we're at 12 (28%). 28% seems like a good baseline to work off of. 
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May 25, 2017 12:27
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C. Everett Koop posted:Compared to the major sports leagues WWE comes off as having more turnover, which makes sense given the travel and wear and tear and lack of an offseason. Realistically, it makes sense that 2/3rds to 3/4ths of the roster from this year's Wrestlemania won't make it to the one in 2022. I guess something else to take into consideration is the average age of the roster as well. There are a lot of older guys who guys who have already been doing this for a decade plus, some of them working heavy independent schedules and doing a lot of crazy stuff. As sad as it is to say, it's probably unlikely that AJ Styles or Shinsuke Nakamura are gonna be around in 5 years, or at least not in anything other than the occasional guest role. Jericho is great and has worked a part time schedule for a long time, but he's getting close to 50 years old. Finn Balor might still be around and I hope he is, and I can see Doc Gallows still being there but I don't know about Karl Anderson.
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May 25, 2017 12:56
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it's fine! it's a good post. thank you C. Everett Koop for this good and interesting post.
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May 25, 2017 15:56
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For reference: Men under the age of 30 who have held any main roster title: Bray Wyatt, Rich Swann, Jason Jordan Seth Rollins was 29 when he cashed in on Brock/Roman at mania. Or do you mean just guys who are still under 30?
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May 25, 2017 17:14
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May 25, 2017 17:16
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May 25, 2017 17:27
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Jerusalem posted:I guess something else to take into consideration is the average age of the roster as well. There are a lot of older guys who guys who have already been doing this for a decade plus, some of them working heavy independent schedules and doing a lot of crazy stuff. As sad as it is to say, it's probably unlikely that AJ Styles or Shinsuke Nakamura are gonna be around in 5 years, or at least not in anything other than the occasional guest role. Jericho is great and has worked a part time schedule for a long time, but he's getting close to 50 years old. Finn Balor might still be around and I hope he is, and I can see Doc Gallows still being there but I don't know about Karl Anderson. With Balor's injury history it's pretty tough to imagine him still around in 5 years. Granted, he'll only be 40 or 41 but I still don't know if he will make it that long if he keeps getting hurt. Styles on the other hand I could see staying around. He'll be what, 44? He's one of those guys I could see doing this poo poo at 50. Fenrir fucked around with this message at 17:34 on May 25, 2017 |
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May 25, 2017 17:29
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Fenrir posted:For reference: Currently under 30. Which is loving dire.
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May 25, 2017 18:08
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Paracaidas posted:Currently under 30. Which is loving dire. And you can pretty much strike Bray off that list, because WWE consistently fucks up every push they give him despite the fact that he's over as gently caress and has been for years. If he'd have won even ONE of his feuds in the last two years he could still be a credible threat but I think that ship has sailed. Sad too, considering he's solid in the ring if not stellar, and one of the best talkers in the company. At least he finally got a title run, short-lived and sabotaged as it was.  e: He also just turned 30, Tuesday when you made this thread. Fenrir fucked around with this message at 18:17 on May 25, 2017 |
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May 25, 2017 18:12
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Paracaidas posted:For reference: You posted this on Bray's 30th birthday hahahahaha
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May 25, 2017 18:19
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The champion of developmental is a decade older than the WWE Champion and thus #1 pushed full-time main roster member.
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May 25, 2017 18:24
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rare Magic card l00k posted:The champion of developmental is a decade older than the WWE Champion and thus #1 pushed full-time main roster member. Good GOD, Jinder is only 30?? I didn't realize that. Holy poo poo. He looks so much older. Probably the roids. I really thought he was like kicking 40. e: I just rewatched his match with Orton at backlash... I'm 39 and he looks older than me. Fenrir fucked around with this message at 18:42 on May 25, 2017 |
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May 25, 2017 18:29
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Fenrir posted:Styles on the other hand I could see staying around. He'll be what, 44? He's one of those guys I could see doing this poo poo at 50. Signing with WWE may have changed his mind, but I do know that when he was interviewed by Dave and Bryan a little over a year ago they mentioned he could still be wrestling in his 40s and his reaction was,"Oh hell no, no way I am doing this in my 40s!" He may have been thinking in terms of still being on the independent circuit though.
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May 26, 2017 00:44
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So you gonna keep this prediction game around for futurism? Who will hold the NXT, Smackdown, and RAW main titles as of 2/21/2022? NXT: Some Dude that doesn't Exist Smackdown: Roman Reigns RAW: Baron Corbin Who will have recently won the 2022 Royal Rumble? Aleister Black will have somehow finished a Royal Rumble, in first, in a lotus position. Will the brand split still be in effect? Yeah Will NXT still be a touring-level brand? Yeah Will the WWE Network still exist? Definitely Will Smackdown and RAW still be available via traditional cable deals? Yes, but only because "Maybe!" is a copout. Which current tag teams will still be active and primarily competing as tag wrestlers? The Revival, American Alpha, Enzo and Cass, Two thirds of the New Day Who will be the Authority Figures on each show? One show will have Stephanie McMahon and HHH, the other will have Daniel Bryan and KANE Will Sami Zayn have held the WWE Championship or the WWE Universal Championship? Yes Will Roman Reigns have been turned heel? Twice Does CM Punk appear on WWE TV in the interim? No, But Xavier Woods will get him to play video games on his channel once, and be suspended. Will the WWE face a competitor capable of topping TNA's highwater mark of a 1.45 rating? No, Cable is dead.
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