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i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Hey BFC. I'm having a rough time. I graduated with an MBA from a no-name school in December and have had exactly one interview (as an entry-level sales rep) since then. My goal in entering the MBA program was to get hired as a consultant for Accenture or Deloitte, and I've been damping down my expectations for the last eighteen months. I have two strong employee references at Dell here in Austin, and have put in several dozen applications there with no leads; my latest set of ten or so applications were all rejected within 72 hours and I pretty much have no self-esteem left. I didn't even get a job as a server at the Mexican restaurant across the street, and I need to pay rent. Was this degree a total mistake? I've never had student loans or debt before, and now I'm 32 and in the hole $50,000. I have no idea what I'm qualified for anymore. I feel like I'm mediocre at everything and not specialized enough for anything. I'd like to be a project manager someday, but can't justify the expense at the moment.

I need help. I'm the only one of my friends with an advanced degree (most are GED's working in IT), and also the only one that makes less than a hundred grand a year. I'm pretty austere, and can pay down student loans and save for retirement at roughly $3,000 a month, which I think is a ridiculously reasonable expectation for an MBA. But I'm totally lost, and I don't know why this is happening. I've been looking for a position since last August, and I have no ideas, no leads, nothing left. I've gone from working for the president of Nigeria to stealing groceries in just three years. I don't even think I have the self-confidence to present myself well in an interview anymore, but that's too far off for me to worry about. Being that the country in general and Austin specifically has a pretty good economic situation, there's clearly something wrong with me.

Here's my resume and a couple cover letter samples from Dell positions I didn't even get a phone call about. Don't mind the formatting; they look better in pdf.

Resume
Cover Letter 1
Cover Letter 2

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i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

this but jobs

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pig slut lisa
Mar 5, 2012

irl is good



Haha I first saw this on my phone and--not realizing that you were also the OP--thought "wow that's really lovely and rude to firstpost under an earnest and well-intentioned OP". I'm glad I waited til I was on my laptop to queue up a sixer.

I'm well out of my element when discussing the MBA job market but I wish you the best of luck. Some quick thoughts:
-Re: "Was this degree a total mistake?": so what if it was? You can't go back and change it. I know it's tough to stay positive but getting down on yourself about your educational decision is going to lead you away from a problem solving mindset.
-You mention several friends making good salaries, albeit with very different qualification and occupational profiles than you. Have you tried leveraging their networks at all?
-What does your MBA program have in the way of career services and alumni networking?
-I wonder if your cover letters would benefit from trading some breadth for depth. You introduce a bunch of different skills and experiences, but only spend a sentence on each one. It might come across to hiring managers as "here are all the bullet points on my resume, now in exciting new cover letter format!" Maybe try rewriting your cover letter to tell fewer, better stories about experiences you've had and skills you've developed?

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

pig slut lisa posted:

-You mention several friends making good salaries, albeit with very different qualification and occupational profiles than you. Have you tried leveraging their networks at all?
My MBA cohort has been way more useful on that front. My social group mostly works at Apple and is very clear that I'm not really qualified to work there. I sold my car a year ago and haven't seen them in months, so 'friends" is a loose term now.

quote:

-What does your MBA program have in the way of career services and alumni networking?
The recruiter straight-up lied to me. The only reason I chose this school over Texas State is because it was closer and the recruiter swore to me they had both career fairs and direct-hire cooperation with local companies. The once-yearly job fairs were geared toward undergrad students and the direct-hire part did not exist. Alumni have a linkedin group, I posted once or twice and didn't get a response.

quote:

-I wonder if your cover letters would benefit from trading some breadth for depth. You introduce a bunch of different skills and experiences, but only spend a sentence on each one. It might come across to hiring managers as "here are all the bullet points on my resume, now in exciting new cover letter format!" Maybe try rewriting your cover letter to tell fewer, better stories about experiences you've had and skills you've developed?
This is great advice and something I hadn't considered. It's just that I don't have very much specific experience. I'll need to do some hard thinking on how to still make a good cover letter by narrowing focus.

Discouragement really is a trap.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22
your BI internship / analyst position is the only thing that looks even remotely interesting to me for a corporate position and it is alarmingly devoid of specifics

edit: I would be more likely to hire you (boutique strategy consulting shop) with only your BA from UT. I think a lousy MBA is worse than no MBA at all, but you can't go back now.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR fucked around with this message at 19:50 on May 25, 2017

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

edit: I would be more likely to hire you (boutique strategy consulting shop) with only your BA from UT. I think a lousy MBA is worse than no MBA at all, but you can't go back now.

Why? It's not like I didn't learn anything; I'm way more knowledgeable now with accounting, finance, econ, statistics, corporate structure and analyzing business proposals than I was writing about Sparta and Persia in college.

General question: do mid-career job titles mean anything specific? At Dell, I'm coming across analyst, associate and specialist titles and the job descriptions are identical to others in the field (i.e. finance analyst and finance specialist) with similar glassdoor ranges.

edit new try on the internship, thanks for telling me to be more specific.

i say swears online fucked around with this message at 20:31 on May 25, 2017

Colin Mockery
Jun 24, 2007
Rawr



I am not in your industry so please take any of my advice with a grain of salt and if someone with more experience in your industry says something that contradicts my advice, you should probably listen to them instead.

The skills section of your resume confuses me: having it be one column that takes up a big chunk of the page seems odd. Your resume is 1.5 pages but it might be better to try and get it to fit in just one page (fiddling with font size, spacing, cutting some of the less useful stuff, can all help you get there). Have you tried turning your skills section into either 2-3 columns or listing them horizontally instead? Also, some of the skills seem more like generic fluff than an actual skill (short-notice subject matter expert, critical/creative thinker, confident public speaking) and don't really fit in when compared to better skills like "Tableau" and "Intermediate Spanish".

Regarding specifics, the rule of thumb I always learned was to use hard numbers when possible. Why was the thing you did good? Did something get better because of what you did? How much better? The impression I get from your job descriptions is what the role was, and what your duties were, but not how well you performed.

You do this in your section about your teaching experience much better, notably "Directly responsible for 150 children. Managed and implemented new curricula. Authored or edited over 2,000 unique pages of materials across 17 subjects. Began the school’s conversion to an accredited International Baccalaureate program." and "Increased enrollment at the school by 50% through working relationships and sponsored local events."

Do you have any stats on your brand consulting gigs at all? Any specific case studies you could call out (not necessarily by name) as having been helped by you and by how much?

Putting a bad MBA on your resume indicates poor judgement on your part (because you paid for a worthless piece of paper). I'm not 100% sure you haaaave to put it on your resume if you have it, but you could certainly consider having two versions of your resume (one with it and one without) and see which one gets you more callbacks. I think my mom actually had to take her doctorate off her resume for a while when she was looking for work (twenty years ago), because otherwise she'd have been overqualified and people wouldn't have hired her.



EDIT: For cover letters (grain of salt, grain of salt! I'm trying to help but not great at this stuff either), try to focus a little less on talking yourself up generically and more on highlighting how you would be an asset to the company:

To the Hiring Manager,

I am writing to express my interest in your University Relations Project Manager position.
I have just graduated with an MBA from Concordia here in Austin and feel that I would be a good fit for the role.

For the past few years, I have been working as a brand consultant, specializing in social media management and improving brand presence. Recently, I spent time with Modern Woodmen of America as an intern, where I introduced a new trade name to better target the under-35 generation.

Prior to that I was the headmaster of one of the most prestigious primary schools in Nigergia, the Aduvie International School. There, I improved enrollment in the school by 50% and built relationships with local communities and government officials. I was also responsible for organizing and planning many of our school's events, including two that had more than a thousand attendees.

I dunno, and then another little bit here that's mostly fluff, tying back to the whole "I am totally good at the poo poo you're asking for, and here's this thing i did already that is basically what you want" theme. I think the unique combination of skills I have are why I would be an ideal fit for this role and look forward to hearing back from you.

Thank you for your time,
my name
and also my phone number
and also my email

Colin Mockery fucked around with this message at 08:35 on May 26, 2017

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22

Aliquid posted:

Why? It's not like I didn't learn anything; I'm way more knowledgeable now with accounting, finance, econ, statistics, corporate structure and analyzing business proposals than I was writing about Sparta and Persia in college.

General question: do mid-career job titles mean anything specific? At Dell, I'm coming across analyst, associate and specialist titles and the job descriptions are identical to others in the field (i.e. finance analyst and finance specialist) with similar glassdoor ranges.

edit new try on the internship, thanks for telling me to be more specific.



It's a bit better. I would recommend hard numbers if you can provide them. As Colin Mockery said, you need to tie achievements on your resume to your skills. You're a good public speaker? Sure, OK, anyone can say that - prove it on your resume somewhere.

This is very harsh, but here's my thought on a bad MBA: It's a terrible investment, and it would lead me to question your overall decision making and ability to accurately gauge costs and benefits in an information-rich environment. A bad MBA is a known awful decision - you may think you got tricked by the school but there was plenty of information out there to tell you that you were making a bad decision, which you either were unable to find (BAD!) or ignored (EXTRA BAD!). If you can't figure out how to find information and make a good decision for yourself, what are you going to do as a consultant when you don't have accurate information because it doesn't exist, and you have to finesse your way in to a good set of decisions for the client?

From my little perch in consulting, the point of an MBA is not to learn accounting, finance, econ, statistics, etc. Any moderately intelligent person can learn that stuff outside of a classroom. The point of the MBA is to get in contact with a bunch of other no-poo poo smart people that will form a network of connections that will serve you for the rest of your life. If you go to Booth or Ross or Wharton or Sloan, you will have an unbelievably deep and well connected network spanning many industries of people who are going to be running poo poo and will need your help. If you go to UNC Greensboro, your network is going to be car dealership F&I managers.

Please cut your resume to one page as you don't have enough material to cover two.

For a cover letter, you really, really have to connect your skills and experiences to what the position is looking for. If the position is Teapot Sales Manager, you don't necessarily have to have experience inspecting teapots. But if you don't, you have to be able to draw a clear line between your experience and that specific role. EG: When I was at the Nigerian school, I improved enrollment by 50% BY DOING $THINGS. I can leverage these skills to do $SIMILARTHINGBUTMAYBEABITGENERIC to drive teapot sales growth.

edit: I realize you're not applying to jobs in consulting at this point but figured the perspective might be useful. Also: did you look at the profiles of successful Big Firm consulting engagement managers, principals and associate partners? I think you would notice a distinct educational trend that should have given you pause.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

My resume is extremely one page. Please read the last sentence of the OP, last two posters. Other advice understood. Taking my master's off.

edit contacted friends at Apple again, they suggested i finance a car through uber

i say swears online fucked around with this message at 17:47 on May 26, 2017

potatoducks
Jan 26, 2006
We had a program coordinator (basically a secretary) who would put MBA after her name as part of her e-mail signature. It was hilarious.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Ride-sharing transportation associate, MBA

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

rejected from my college job at a hotel. i want to kill myself

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

i have no marketable skills and crippling depression, i definitely don't provide value. thanks mba for telling me what i cannot do

moana
Jun 18, 2005

one of the more intellectual satire communities on the web
Don't kill yourself, duder. Definitely start shopping your BA resume around for lower tier jobs. My friend was at an entry level position doing marketing type stuff at a local credit union, and her boss liked her so much that she just got a promotion to doing "process analysis" which is one job hop away from a real consultant position. So you really just need to get a toe in anywhere, and then bend the job toward what you really want to do. I know it sucks to go back to square one, but sometimes it's necessary.

Alternatively, consider starting your own business? My old boss started a tutoring business and did really well for himself. Something that you can bootstrap up from just one person. Maybe expand your marketing/brand business?

I feel you on the wasted degree - I spent like $15k on a MLIS the year before they cut like half of the librarian positions in California. So what? You can push past this!

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22
please do not kill yourself

Pryor on Fire
May 14, 2013

they don't know all alien abduction experiences can be explained by people thinking saving private ryan was a documentary

Literally the best time to be looking for a job since the 70s. Deep breaths you're gonna be fine.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Pryor on Fire posted:

Literally the best time to be looking for a job since the 70s. Deep breaths you're gonna be fine.

Yeah, that's what's got me spooked. I have zero excuses, and I have no idea why interviews aren't materializing. If I were getting interviews but not getting jobs, at least I'd have something to work on.

Droo
Jun 25, 2003

Aliquid posted:

Yeah, that's what's got me spooked. I have zero excuses, and I have no idea why interviews aren't materializing. If I were getting interviews but not getting jobs, at least I'd have something to work on.

People gave you lots of good resume and letter advice - do you have updated versions since the start of the thread? I also suggest having multiple resumes depending on which job you are applying for - don't send your MBA resume to try and get your hotel staff job back, for example. I also suggest writing each cover letter from scratch for each job you apply for instead of having a template, and keeping them shorter than what you currently have up there.

You got lots of good advice from people who do more hiring than I ever have so I didn't reply when you first started the thread, but since you are still having trouble I figured I would post. I definitely can see why people are passing you over though, so I think there is plenty of room to improve to the point that you start getting callbacks.

If you post an updated resume, or update the OP, I'll list specific things I would change.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Yeah, I've been getting more specific. I don't like cover letter templates either; most all have been from scratch especially if the jobs are different. I used similar cover letters for two recent City of Austin jobs, Business Development I and Business Development II but I think that's okay as there wasn't a difference in the job descriptions. Here's another try on the recent international experience, using specific things I did.



I'm getting to a point where my one-page-resume is full, so now it's deleting stuff and replacing it with better specifics. I dunno if "brand consultant" is a good phrase; a lot of this work was informal but nobody else has to know that.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22
I like brand consultant. I might say what types of small businesses - break a few out in to client stories, perhaps.

EG:

International Small Business Brand Consultant X to Y: Helped dynamic small businesses build brand strategies for growth in West Africa and and Latin America. Examples below:

1. Miguel's Teapots
Developed business proposal that secured $X in funding from Y bank/agency, exceeding goal by Z amt
Designed compliance process for customs clearance and shipment

2. Olubunmi's Consulting
etc

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

I'd like to, but can't find a way that keeps the resume to one page. I guess if I really expand on that section, two pages is okay.

Droo
Jun 25, 2003

Aliquid posted:

I'd like to, but can't find a way that keeps the resume to one page. I guess if I really expand on that section, two pages is okay.

Is there some reason you won't post your updated resume in the format you claim it's in so that people can see it and comment on specific things? You have made multiple references to formatting and wording as it exists in this secret copy of your resume.

moana
Jun 18, 2005

one of the more intellectual satire communities on the web
Yeah, I can think of parts of that resume that you can get rid of instead (the third page list of skills)

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Just trying to keep it simple and specific. It's already at like 10.5 font and no lines available to add.

Droo
Jun 25, 2003

Aliquid posted:

Just trying to keep it simple and specific. It's already at like 10.5 font and no lines available to add.

I would get rid of the skills section, get rid of the school in Peru, get rid of the Holiday Inn Express section. I would swap the first two experience things, put the stuff under brand consultant into bullet points so it batches everything else, fix the bullet points under Modern Woodmen to not be indented a billion times more than all the others. I would try to balance out all the experience so they each have 4-6 bullet points instead of being all over the place.

I would probably put Education under Experience and possibly add a small summary 3 line section at the very top highlighting the global diversity of your experience. The section under your army experience is weird because it kind of reads like you failed out of Officer Candidate school, but I don't know anything about the military so I'm not sure what is happening there.

I would change your title at the Aduvie school to just "Headmaster" because it seems confusing to be both that and a teacher, and you already have a bullet point talking about teaching that you can tighten up a bit.

After all that I would revisit the wording and take out some of the extra annoying buzzwords (e.g. Utilized) and then make sure that the tense of the statements throughout the resume generally matches up. For example, "Led extracurricular activities" and "procurement experience" kind of clash to me and is easily fixed up by changing the second one a bit. I normally wouldn't mention that but it seems like a business/MBA type person should have that down more than a tech resume.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Thanks, I'll revise and have something in the morning. And I did fail out of OCS, but I felt the work I did during that time was still worth mentioning. It's probably a turn-off for anyone that's fully served (I don't claim to be a veteran or anything). I dunno if I should take that out completely.

Velochis
Apr 4, 2002

We go play hope
I am a hiring manager at a major corporation. I am also a military veteran. Based on your resume I would have serious reservations about hiring you for the sole reason that you included two years of military service.

There is no two year enlistment so I would interpret that as you failed out of officer school. Or you possibly quit before your enlistment was up.

It's likely you have a very good reason for only completing two years of service (medical?), but the red flag potential far outweighs any benefit I might give you for being a military vet of two years.

I'd highly consider leaving it off.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22
I would also consider you take off the service line. I was going to ask if you had commissioned or not, and if you had, why it wasn't on your resume.

I would say "Supervised" rather than "directly responsible for" - I assume that is a reasonably accurate read on your headmaster position. You have a kind of weird way of putting everything. For instance, you say "Procurement experience, received competing bids for textbooks, sports equipment, etc" - on my resume that would probably read "Awarded (school wide? multi year?) contracts to vendors for textbooks and other supplies through a multi-source competitive procurement process"

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

I'm happy with the way this is turning out. Please take another look at the stuff I changed, including the way I divided up duties by subject in the consultant section. Unresolved issues: skills -> mission statement, too many Nigerian bullet points. I took off the extracurricular line, but added two (minister of education and event planning). I feel it's all important, how should I cut it more? With the mission statement, I'm having trouble getting it tight and clear instead of it either looking unappealing for local jobs or full of corporate jargon. Other stuff, like education placement and inclusion of hotel job, iunno.



One job I'm applying for is a local suburb's Tourism Manager; they use the hotel occupancy tax for funding and so the hotel job may be an individual application decision.

moana
Jun 18, 2005

one of the more intellectual satire communities on the web
I'd also take off the Peru thing, a "certificate" that nobody will ever have heard of reads like you did some online course and printed out a piece of paper to stick on your fridge.

Pryor on Fire
May 14, 2013

they don't know all alien abduction experiences can be explained by people thinking saving private ryan was a documentary

*nevermind yeah the Peru cert is meaningless

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



You mentioned working for the president of Nigeria. Did you ever work with him directly? I'm not an interviewer, but if I was I would at least bring someone that worked directly with the leader of a country in for an interview. Unless you worked for Kim Jong Un or Gaddafi or something.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22
I'd tailor your resume a bit - keep a couple versions on hand. I like keeping the hotel job for things that are tourism or customer service related - for those types of jobs I would reduce the content on the school.

I still really want a successful case study on your brand section. I think it will really help that experience pop a bit and it's the most immediately business-relevant stuff you have,

In theory your skills section should highlight things you can do (technical skills) that aren't necessarily called out in your resume. Business analysis, etc - to me that's all in bullet points in your resume. I'd focus on software and language proficiency, and I would drop it down to the end of the resume.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Was out on my bike all day. Found another hotel that runs the same software I used and they were interested in me, so that's a good rent-paying job. Lots more "we're hiring" banners up than my last trip down that stretch of highway a month ago. I agree with the new suggestions, I'll take out or pare down the skills, take out Peru (wasn't online, but was meaningless).

The school in Nigeria was owned by Goodluck Jonathan's wife, and their only school-age kid was in the class I spent most of my time in. I would see him maybe once a week for a meeting, going over her progress, etc. He was really interested. It was neat, but not necessarily translatable to other businesses. But drat, did I meet a lot of important people in that sphere. I regret not networking more while I was over there.

Edit: I sometimes use a case study in cover letters; I hooked up a small mescal distillery in Oaxaca with a few bars downtown and helped them with regulatory info. I guess that should go on the resume as an example.

i say swears online fucked around with this message at 03:55 on Jun 1, 2017

Colin Mockery
Jun 24, 2007
Rawr



I think skills and education both at the bottom would be better (putting experience at the top, especially because your BA's from 2007), and definitely as KYOON GRIFFEY JR says, if you're running into trouble keeping your resume one page while highlighting important information, just have multiple copies of your resume tailored to different subjects. One resume for consulting and one for generic office stuff might be good to start.

I definitely think the way you split up the duties in the consultant section looks better than it did before. Even if you can't fit a proper case study (please find a successful case study), at least put one googleable name into there that people can look up that makes you look good. Right now, there's no way to actually prove you did anything as a brand consultant, no one to ask about it (if checking references), not even a website to look up. I could copy/paste it wholesale into my resume and there'd be no way for a stranger to know I'm completely full of poo poo.

If you do have a website, make it look good, throw some testimonials in there too if you don't have them already, and add its name (assuming it shows up near the top when you google it) to your resume:

Cool Brands, Inc. (Self-Employed) July 2012 to present
Brand Consultant

I'm not sure what to cut from the Nigeria section -- maybe cut the 150 children bit (you're headmaster for a school, they can get an idea of size by how many teachers you managed) to only mention the IB program part, maybe cut the event management stuff for some resumes but not others or merge it with other stuff that can boil down to "improved enrollment by 50% by throwing high-profile events and collaborating with high-profile officials, such as the minister of education" (but phrased better), or whatever.

Agree that finding a way to semi-gracefully fit "i interacted professionally with the president of nigeria" into your resume would be good.

You should be able to cut all but the following from your skills, if you're strapped for space: Tableau Software, MS Excel and PowerPoint (you don't feel you can say Microsoft Office?), Technical Writing, Intermediate Spanish

Trash the Peru cert.

For stupid spacing tricks, you can make the title and employer for your previous jobs one line:

Headmaster -- Aduvie International School, Abuja, Nigeria July 2012 - Sept 2013

I actually prefer to right-justify the duration of a job so there's more space and slightly better readability too, consider trying that out if you do smush those two lines into one.

And you can also click on just the whitespace lines and shrink only the empty line's font size by a few extra points, or shrink the top/bottom margins by a smidge (not sure if that's something recruiters/hiring managers won't like, though).

BarbarianElephant
Feb 12, 2015
The fairy of forgiveness has removed your red text.

Aliquid posted:

The school in Nigeria was owned by Goodluck Jonathan's wife, and their only school-age kid was in the class I spent most of my time in. I would see him maybe once a week for a meeting, going over her progress, etc. He was really interested. It was neat, but not necessarily translatable to other businesses. But drat, did I meet a lot of important people in that sphere. I regret not networking more while I was over there.

They might remember you, why not ask for a job? Sounds like an interesting country to work in (maybe a little too interesting.) And employers in Nigeria probably wouldn't know that your business school is seen as low prestige in the States.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22
Your path to consulting probably flows through Nigeria. If you can get hooked up as a country SME then you're gold. Nigeria is still big $$$ in a lot of fields and there's still relatively limited expertise.

Avalanche
Feb 2, 2007
I really just 15sec skimmed your resume, and the Army thing really stuck out as a red flag.

My first question was "Why the gently caress did he attend OCS, and end up a corporal?"

If you failed out or had crippling depression or whatever, well who gives a poo poo, that's life, and gently caress the army anyways you should of gone air force. But, I would be a lot less specific and maybe just list either your overall service time frame in the army, MOS, and nothing else except maybe an honorable discharge or just keep it out entirely.

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Aliquid posted:

I'm happy with the way this is turning out. Please take another look at the stuff I changed, including the way I divided up duties by subject in the consultant section. Unresolved issues: skills -> mission statement, too many Nigerian bullet points. I took off the extracurricular line, but added two (minister of education and event planning). I feel it's all important, how should I cut it more? With the mission statement, I'm having trouble getting it tight and clear instead of it either looking unappealing for local jobs or full of corporate jargon. Other stuff, like education placement and inclusion of hotel job, iunno.



One job I'm applying for is a local suburb's Tourism Manager; they use the hotel occupancy tax for funding and so the hotel job may be an individual application decision.

I know it's late, but your skills should be listed at the bottom and majorly paired down. Microsoft Office can suffice for several of those bullets. Get rid of confident public speaking and critical thinker, etc (you want to demonstrate these things, not state them). Skills should just programs you use or certificates you've earned. Ie. instead of business intelligence software, state whatever software it is

your education should drop to the bottom as well. The hiring manager sees MBA and automatically thinks certain things which may or may not work in your favor depending on what you are applying for. The way your resume is structured now, that's the first thing they see rather than what you've done.

you can also very easily trim down this resume and majorly improve your bullet points.

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