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Cybernetic Vermin posted:all valves stuff is wonky and often cpu-bound though, as long as it is within 25% it's mostly fine amd recently opened their official vulkan driver stack too, from their cross-platform vulkan implementation all the way down to their platform abstraction layer, albeit with the windows stuff removed for legal reasons. unfortunately this means that there are now two open drivers with each one focusing on different feature sets and there is likely going to be a lot of duplicated effort on both sides before they are at parity. The_Franz fucked around with this message at 18:17 on Jan 20, 2018 |
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so we’re not even pretending wine is for anything other than vidya games anymore?
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Jan 20, 2018 18:23
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The Management posted:so we’re not even pretending wine is for anything other than vidya games anymore? windows is for video games, wine is for running the once in a blue moon nonstandard self-extracting archive
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Jan 20, 2018 18:28
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wine used to be about running Spotify and playing video games but Spotify is a web app now so it doesn't need wine anymore
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ya, it was a happy day when the web spotify launched, as it was the classic wine situation where it *worked*, but was so clunky and weird in random ways (notably wine and pulseaudio hated each other a lot at that point, i think the esd emulation was the only path reliable?) that sort of thing is why wine really doesn't matter that much anymore, most such things are now all web, and linux is simultaneously better off, and along with everything else, worse off
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why are you running spotify on your server anyway
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Jan 20, 2018 19:14
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late night pbx raves
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to modulate the fan rpms to play "welcome to the jungle" when someone enters the data center
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The Management posted:so we’re not even pretending wine is for anything other than vidya games anymore? Codeweavers, the company, exists because there are actually people out there trying to run Windows programs on Linux and Mac, so I guess its use case exists but it's a niche.
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Jan 20, 2018 20:56
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oppan vulkan style
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The Management posted:I haven’t used wine in like a decade. does it still render standard windows controls like garbage and half the time they don’t work right? No that's citrix
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Endless Mike posted:why are you running spotify anyway
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i use wine to run lightroom and it mostly works great except sometimes tooltips stay on the screen and don't go away
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hasn't spotify had a qt4 based player for ages? before the web player thingie arrived
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Tankakern posted:hasn't spotify had a qt4 based player for ages? before the web player thingie arrived yes, but their linux fat client just uses qt4 to render web poo poo. (to be fair, that is also how the windows client works internally)
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i've been a spotify subscriber for like five or six years because they were the first streaming service to fully support linux
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The Management posted:I havent used wine in like a decade. does it still render standard windows controls like garbage and half the time they dont work right? that's everything in linux UIs
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Jan 21, 2018 17:53
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:i've been a spotify subscriber for like five or six years because they were the first streaming service to fully support linux same but because i forget to cancel it
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Jan 21, 2018 23:02
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lol @ paying for media in tool 2010 or later
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NEED MORE MILK posted:lol @ paying for media in tool 2010 or later eh no, it’s worth paying for convenience. Spotify is an easy way to just download music to your iPhone without dealing with iTunes, and connecting to or switching between different output devices is easy (and it’s nbd to strip drm if you want). streaming has superseded most of my torrenting, Hell most of my piracy these days is streaming as well
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pram posted:same but because i forget to cancel it gently caress now i understand what that alarm was
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:yes, but their linux fat client just uses qt4 to render web poo poo. also it never updated to the lovely new ui that had features removed
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NEED MORE MILK posted:lol @ paying for media in tool 2010 or later spotify is unironically better than piracy
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Me, in 2005 tool and later: I really like that song, let me install a torrent client and open up pirate bay and then download [Mp3k1ng].[albumname].192KB.CDRiP.torrent and untar and then copy that into my winamp playlist and then play my song Me, today: I really like that song, let me just click on it
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napster era piracy was sweet, with a fast connection it wasn't that far from feeling like a free spotify in 2000, but just about everything after that was and is a pain. paying for streaming music is one of my few truly no-brainer bills
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:napster era piracy was sweet, with a fast connection it wasn't that far from feeling like a free spotify in 2000 it was still pretty bad. poo poo was routinely mislabeled and you had to manage id3 tags and puzzle out which version of an album you got and poo poo it was a novelty at the time but it wasn't great.
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napster's thing where clicking the close button didn't actually close it brought so many networks to their knees...
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:it was still pretty bad. poo poo was routinely mislabeled and you had to manage id3 tags and puzzle out which version of an album you got and poo poo nbsd was right
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:to modulate the fan rpms to play "welcome to the jungle" when someone enters the data center yo i want this
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Napster was cool for the one semester I got to use it on a university network before it shut down. Kazaa was cool for the remaining three and then I moved off campus and had cable and BitTorrent became a thing.
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actually my timeline is off there I think. I moved from Kazaa to direct connect. rip(?) sadchub
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:it was still pretty bad. poo poo was routinely mislabeled and you had to manage id3 tags and puzzle out which version of an album you got and poo poo http://www.somethingawful.com/news/pirated-1999-files/
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